Help physics got broken

[darkfender666]

so i m trying to reproduce my old OLDRIM load order to SE

I have to say SE is way more complex

 

I managed to make base things work, racemenu, FSMP, CBBE 3BA...

 

after some more installations physics stopped working.

Trying to backtrack 2 days of installation but nothing worked.

 

Not sure if i pressed some button in game that deactivate physics (tried to press again + many times but did not fix and tried to reinstall everything)

 

 

I used loot, SSEEDIT, FNIS.... 

and obviosuly bodyslide
launching CBBE 3BBB amazing SMP player (maybe its not the right option)?

and such but can t revert what s broken

weird thing is DD piercing have physics but normal body does not.

 

NOW i uninstalled everything and installed from scratch and yet not even basic physics mods alone will work

 

May i have some help?

 

This is the modlist... 

 

ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - USSEP - Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266
ACTIVE [Name] Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE - Alternate Start - Live Another Life https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272
ACTIVE [Name] Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE - FNIS Behavior SE 7_6 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038
ACTIVE [Name] Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE - FNIS Creature Pack SE 7.6 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038
ACTIVE [Name] CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE and VR - CBPC - Fomod installer - MAIN FILE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21224
ACTIVE [Name] SKSE64 ini pre-download for lazy users - No Warpaint tweak https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1651
ACTIVE [Name] Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- - CBBE AE-CC Outfits https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198
ACTIVE [Name] RaceMenu - RaceMenu Anniversary Edition v0-4-20-0 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080
ACTIVE [Name] Pretty Face - Pretty Face CBBE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12134
ACTIVE [Name] PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions - PapyrusUtil AE SE - Scripting Utility Functions https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13048
ACTIVE [Name] Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- - Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer CBBE - v2.0.3 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198
ACTIVE [Name] Address Library for SKSE Plugins - All in one (1.6.X) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444
ACTIVE [Name] ConsoleUtilSSE NG - ConsoleUtilSSE NG https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/76649
ACTIVE [Name] SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) - Engine Fixes - Main File https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230
ACTIVE [Name] Alt-Tab Stuck Key Fix - AltTabFix 1.3.1 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/148466
ACTIVE [Name] XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE - XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988
ACTIVE [Name] FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP - FSMP 4.0.1 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57339
ACTIVE [Name] BodySlide and Outfit Studio - BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v5.8.2 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/201
ACTIVE [Name] SKSE Menu Framework - SKSE Menu Framework https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/120352
ACTIVE [Name] CBBE 3BA (3BBB) - CBBE 3BA (3BBB) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30174
ACTIVE [Name] SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) - Engine Fixes - SKSE64 Preloader https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230
ACTIVE [Name] SSE Display Tweaks - SSE Display Tweaks https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34705
ACTIVE [Name] SkyUI - SkyUI https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12604
ACTIVE [Name] Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE64) - Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE64)  Steam https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30379
 

Edited Sunday at 01:01 PM by darkfender666

[traison]

There's a paper on finding physics presets in my signature. That's where I'd start.

[jackjack77]

Did you update the game

[darkfender666]

 

 

15 hours ago, traison said:

There's a paper on finding physics presets in my signature. That's where I'd start.

frankly its really complicated for me, read it 10 times buy could not understand

 

And i went to reinstall everything from scratch and this is the minimal modlist for body physics.

It makes no sense its not working when it used to.

 

maybe with these few mods you can help me?

SSEDIT does not say anything

nor wryebash

loot is ok

 

why is special edition so impossible to mod?

 

 

ACTIVE [Name] Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - USSEP - Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/266
ACTIVE [Name] Alternate Start - Live Another Life - SSE - Alternate Start - Live Another Life https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/272
ACTIVE [Name] Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE - FNIS Behavior SE 7_6 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038
ACTIVE [Name] Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE - FNIS Creature Pack SE 7.6 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/3038
ACTIVE [Name] CBPC - Physics with Collisions for SSE and VR - CBPC - Fomod installer - MAIN FILE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/21224
ACTIVE [Name] SKSE64 ini pre-download for lazy users - No Warpaint tweak https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1651
ACTIVE [Name] Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- - CBBE AE-CC Outfits https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198
ACTIVE [Name] RaceMenu - RaceMenu Anniversary Edition v0-4-20-0 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/19080
ACTIVE [Name] Pretty Face - Pretty Face CBBE https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12134
ACTIVE [Name] PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions - PapyrusUtil AE SE - Scripting Utility Functions https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/13048
ACTIVE [Name] Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE- - Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer CBBE - v2.0.3 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/198
ACTIVE [Name] Address Library for SKSE Plugins - All in one (1.6.X) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/32444
ACTIVE [Name] ConsoleUtilSSE NG - ConsoleUtilSSE NG https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/76649
ACTIVE [Name] SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) - Engine Fixes - Main File https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230
ACTIVE [Name] Alt-Tab Stuck Key Fix - AltTabFix 1.3.1 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/148466
ACTIVE [Name] XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended - XPMSSE - XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/1988
ACTIVE [Name] FSMP - Faster HDT-SMP - FSMP 4.0.1 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/57339
ACTIVE [Name] BodySlide and Outfit Studio - BodySlide and Outfit Studio - v5.8.2 https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/201
ACTIVE [Name] SKSE Menu Framework - SKSE Menu Framework https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/120352
ACTIVE [Name] CBBE 3BA (3BBB) - CBBE 3BA (3BBB) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30174
ACTIVE [Name] SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin) - Engine Fixes - SKSE64 Preloader https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/17230
ACTIVE [Name] SSE Display Tweaks - SSE Display Tweaks https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/34705
ACTIVE [Name] SkyUI - SkyUI https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/12604
ACTIVE [Name] Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE64) - Skyrim Script Extender (SKSE64)  Steam https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/30379

 

 

1 hour ago, jackjack77 said:

1 hour ago, jackjack77 said:

Did you update the game

no i was just adding few mods and i was careful...

 

maybe i pressed some shortcut in game but i reinstalled from scratch

 

 

Edited Sunday at 01:00 PM by darkfender666

[traison]

31 minutes ago, darkfender666 said:

why is special edition so impossible to mod?

 

The thing that makes physics more complicated in SE/AE is that we now have 2 physics systems (technically 3) instead of 1 (or technically 2). Other than that it's pretty much the same.

[darkfender666]

29 minutes ago, traison said:

 

The thing that makes physics more complicated in SE/AE is that we now have 2 physics systems (technically 3) instead of 1 (or technically 2). Other than that it's pretty much the same.

but i uninstalled and reinstalled everything?
 

either i use the wrong Bodyslide option or maybe some settings remained womewhere after i reinstalled from scratch? 

 

[traison]

1 hour ago, darkfender666 said:

but i uninstalled and reinstalled everything?

 

This makes it sound like you're assuming that installed mods always work. You forget that any shoe/ring/circlet/hat/dildo mod can contain a physics preset that changes how your tits move when that item is worn; and that CBPC and SMP must not be affecting the same nodes at the same time.

 

The reason why your body physics are gone, as I see it, is simply because you have nothing that's actually applying physics to the body anymore:

1. Maybe the body you're building from BodySlide doesn't have an SMP hint in it.
2. Maybe the SMP hint in your body mesh is pointing to a non-existant file.
3. Maybe you're supposed to wear an invisible ring to get SMP physics.
4. Maybe you selected an option to have CBPC control the body, but CBPB's physics presets are missing or they have conditions that do not apply to your character.
5. Maybe you have a Papyrus mod that has disabled SMP physics on your body through SMP's API. The same can be done in CBPC's API.
6. Maybe your current race has been assigned a skeleton that is missing all the jiggly bones.
7. Maybe PPA (or some other dll mod capable of tapping into SMP and/or CBPC) has gone nuts and disabled physics.

I don't see how one can mod Skyrim's physics systems without knowing which system controls which node, and which preset is responsible for which effect.

[darkfender666]

12 hours ago, traison said:

 

This makes it sound like you're assuming that installed mods always work. You forget that any shoe/ring/circlet/hat/dildo mod can contain a physics preset that changes how your tits move when that item is worn; and that CBPC and SMP must not be affecting the same nodes at the same time.

 

The reason why your body physics are gone, as I see it, is simply because you have nothing that's actually applying physics to the body anymore:

1. Maybe the body you're building from BodySlide doesn't have an SMP hint in it.
2. Maybe the SMP hint in your body mesh is pointing to a non-existant file.
3. Maybe you're supposed to wear an invisible ring to get SMP physics.
4. Maybe you selected an option to have CBPC control the body, but CBPB's physics presets are missing or they have conditions that do not apply to your character.
5. Maybe you have a Papyrus mod that has disabled SMP physics on your body through SMP's API. The same can be done in CBPC's API.
6. Maybe your current race has been assigned a skeleton that is missing all the jiggly bones.
7. Maybe PPA (or some other dll mod capable of tapping into SMP and/or CBPC) has gone nuts and disabled physics.

I don't see how one can mod Skyrim's physics systems without knowing which system controls which node, and which preset is responsible for which effect.

I was right 

 

 

They literally used a key button to diable physics... once pressed it disables it even if you uninstall and reinstall everything.

They mapped button + that is used for so many mods that an accidental press is basically granted.

 

Still wonder why its stored even if you reinstalll even skse possibly in the user profile somewhere .....

thank you.

Edited Monday at 04:57 AM by darkfender666

[traison]

4 hours ago, darkfender666 said:

Still wonder why its stored even if you reinstall...

 

Because running scripts get baked into your save file.

[darkfender666]

1 hour ago, traison said:

 

Because running scripts get baked into your save file.

nope.

I started everything from scratch

New game, delete skyrim and redownloaded, uninstalled every single mod.

 

I think it got baked on some ini like that... and to add injury the message about enabling/disabling is bugged so sometimes won t appear.

[traison]

36 minutes ago, darkfender666 said:

I think it got baked on some ini like that... and to add injury the message about enabling/disabling is bugged so sometimes won t appear.

 

Sure, there's alternatives too, and whenever a dll is involved you have no guarantees about anything - it could be in the Windows registry, or in your OneDrive for instance. As for notification messages, remember that there is a mechanism that prevents the same messages from being displayed again within a cooldown period.