Tainted_Soul Posted April 11 Posted April 11 (edited) EDIT: SOLVED IT, LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE POST! So, I ran into this strange issue on my new modded playthrough. My other modded saves work as intended, it's just the most recent one that's flawed. As said in the title, no enemy attacks me anymore, nor animals, nor people like bandits. By messing with the console I found that their aggression levels are set to =0, but changing them manually to =2 won't solve the issue. Also, I tried "tcai" "disable" followed by "enable", also tried to reset factions. Nothing worked. Can someone point me to a possible culprit in my load order? I can guess it has something to do with SPID. I already checked the save with Fallrim Tools, everything is in order. This is my load order. Thanks in advance to whoever replies! GameMode=SkyrimSE Skyrim.esm=1 Update.esm=1 Dawnguard.esm=1 HearthFires.esm=1 Dragonborn.esm=1 ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm=1 ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl=1 ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl=1 ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm=1 _ResourcePack.esl=1 unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp=1 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1 FISS.esp=1 TrueHUD.esl=1 Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers.esp=1 Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp=1 DwemerGatesNoRelock.esl=1 RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm=1 Dismembering Framework.esm=1 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1 FlowerGirls SE.esm=1 DynamicCollisionAdjustment.esl=1 skymojibase.esl=1 (SGC) NASC.esl=1 SexLab.esm=1 SexLabTools.esl=1 Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1 SexLabAroused.esm=1 Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm=1 Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm=1 Occ_Skyrim_AnniversaryFreeCC.esp=1 SkyUI_SE.esp=1 SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp=1 Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp=1 RaceMenu.esp=1 RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1 EnhancedLightsandFX.esp=1 ELFX - Exteriors.esp=1 Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Book Covers Skyrim.esp=1 Vanilla hair remake SMP NPCs.esp=1 cutting room floor.esp=1 Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp=1 MysticismMagic.esp=1 YOT - Your Own Thoughts.esp=1 RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1 Man Those Borders!.esp=1 ELFX - Weathers.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp=1 point the way.esp=1 NewArmoury.esp=1 SkyrimRevoiced.esp=1 SkyrimRevoiced Skypatcher.esp=1 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1 Immersive Weapons.esp=1 dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1 dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp=1 BlendedRoads.esp=1 MCMHelper.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp=1 IcePenguinWorldMap.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp=1 GetAegisbane.esp=1 Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp=1 RaySense.esp=1 Animated Immersive Weaps.esp=1 TrueDirectionalMovement.esp=1 SkyParkour.esp=1 Convenient Bridges.esp=1 CivilWarCheckpoints - All.esp=1 Immersive Patrols II.esp=1 ImmersiveHUD.esp=1 run for your lives.esp=1 KS Hairdo's.esp=1 UnreadBooksGlow.esp=1 VioLens SE.esp=1 DX Druid Armor.esp=1 AIO SE TATTOOS.esp=1 Precision.esp=1 Runandwalkpaces.esp=1 AHZBetterDGEntranceSE.esp=1 moretodo.esp=1 Dragon Wall Wisdom.esp=1 CWRepairs.esp=1 moretosayfalkreath.esp=1 Occ_Skyrim_CuttinRoomFloor.esp=1 HoldBorderBanners.esp=1 GDO_MCM.esp=1 Sleeping Expanded.esp=1 SparklesSE.esp=1 Bells of Skyrim.esp=1 SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp=1 Use Those Blankets.esp=1 Stale_Food_RND.esp=1 noCamColl_2_SE.esp=1 ImprovedAlternateConversationCamera.esp=1 moretosayrorikstead.esp=1 Man Those Borders! - Convenient Bridges Patch.esp=1 moretosaywhiterun.esp=1 Delphine's Map Reveals Dragon Mounds.esp=1 moretosayriverwood.esp=1 AHZBetterDGEntranceSE-ELFXPatch.esp=1 Gotobed.esp=1 TKDodge.esp=1 At Your Own Pace - Main Quest.esp=1 Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp=1 TESL-LoadingScreens.esp=1 WNB_WeatheredNordicBodypaints.esp=1 SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp=1 WoundsOverlay.esp=1 SmoothCam.esp=1 Next-Gen Decapitations.esp=1 Dismember_TrapFix.esp=1 DF - Official Humanoid Pack.esp=1 DF - Official Creature Pack.esp=1 ShoutThemApart.esp=1 SGEyebrows.esp=1 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1 SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp=1 SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1 SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1 Beards.esp=1 FNIS.esp=1 Dynamic Activation Key.esp=1 ImmersiveInteractions.esp=1 ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp=1 ISC Immersive Armors Patch.esp=1 Thundering Shouts.esp=1 First Person Camera Height Fix.esp=1 FEC.esp=1 Ingredient Descriptions.esp=1 RGMsVanityMirror.esp=1 Auto Unequip Ammo.esp=1 Dirt and Blood - Dynamic Visuals.esp=1 sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1 NoBSAIProjectileDodge.esp=1 Realistic-Voice.esp=1 SimplyBalanced.esp=1 moretosayshorsstone.esp=1 secretofrorikstead.esp=1 slightly Better Kettles - Camping Kettles.esp=1 sisselbookquest.esp=1 mcCampingLite.esp=1 Upgrade Leveled Items.esp=1 Immersive Speech Dialogues.esp=1 RelationshipRankNotificationsDialogue.esp=1 FloatingSubtitles.esp=1 Paper UI Sounds.esp=1 MorePainfulNPCDeathSounds.esp=1 empitificator.esp=1 skymoji.esp=1 UntarnishedUI_Subtitle.esp=1 Brawl Lines Expansion.esp=1 moretosaycityguards.esp=1 moretosayriften.esp=1 mtsfollowerbanter.esp=1 moretosaygeneric.esp=1 guardencounters.esp=1 moretosaykarthwasten.esp=1 priestsgrantblessings.esp=1 moretosaywinterhold.esp=1 RevoicedSkyp BrawlLinesExpansion.esp=1 RevoicedSkyP priestsgrantblessings.esp=1 HN66mage4vanilla.esp=1 HN66 Mage Nails USSEP Patch.esp=1 HN66Mage4Vanilla SPID.esp=1 Death Counter.esp=1 Revoiced BrawlLinesExpansion.esp=1 Revoiced priestsgrantblessings.esp=1 RichMerchantsSkyrim_x2.esp=1 Conditional Expressions.esp=1 ShoutPronunciations.esp=1 Carry Weight x2.esp=1 manny_oblivion_music_dungeons.esp=1 Dragonborns Bestiary.esp=1 CombatStaminaRequirements.esp=1 1secondstaminaregendelay.esp=1 flowergirls_scene_shout.esp=1 MysticismJumpSpells.esp=1 NPCs React To Invisibility.esp=1 MaximumCarnage.esp=1 CW_Enjia.esp=1 CWRNimriel.esp=1 Bandit Lines Expansion.esp=1 DarkElfVoicesForBandits.esp=1 Werebeasts Dont Talk.esp=1 Bells of Skyrim - Reduced Volume.esp=1 Forsworn and Thalmor Lines Expansion.esp=1 WadeInWater.esp=1 DragonCombatDialogue.esp=1 Vampire Lines Expansion.esp=1 Vampire Lines Expansion - Orc Addon.esp=1 WadeInWaterRedone.esp=1 Civil War Lines Expansion.esp=1 EBT - IC PATCH.esp=1 SIC BetterQuestObjectives.esp=1 SIC CClub Saints & Seducer Integration.esp=1 Real Feeding V3.esp=1 PraedysSkulls.esp=1 Nordic Warmaiden Body Hair.esp=1 AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp=1 Distributed Bodypaints0.esp=1 Distributed Bodypaints.esp=1 dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp=1 XPMSE.esp=1 SOSRaceMenu.esp=1 MaximumSkeletons.esp=1 BHUNP3BBB.esp=1 RaceMenuMorphsBHUNP.esp=1 KSHairdosSMP.esp=1 FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp=1 SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp=1 SLAnimLoader.esp=1 SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1 MassMatchMakerSE.esp=1 Cuckoldress.esp=1 SexistGuards.esp=1 SexLab Romance.esp=1 SexLabDefeat.esp=1 SLACS_2_Plus_SCO.esp=1 OAroused.esp=1 OSLAroused.esp=1 Devious Devices SE patch.esp=1 AnubAnimObj.esp=1 Cumshot.esp=1 CumshotSL.esp=1 CumshotFG.esp=1 SexLab Extra Voices.esp=1 NoOverpenetration.esp=1 WetandCold.esp=1 WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp=1 YOT - Cutting Room Floor.esp=1 YOT - Immersive Sounds.esp=1 YOT - Survival Mode.esp=1 YOT - Wet and Cold.esp=1 YOT - CWRepairs.esp=1 YOT - Saints & Seducers.esp=1 YOT - Dirt and Blood.esp=1 YOT - Fishing.esp=1 UIExtensions.esp=1 RP Toe Nails L H C Merged.esp=1 UNP Vanilla Outfits.esp=1 NPCs Take Cover.esp=1 SensibleBribes.esp=1 Footprints.esp=1 Poser Hotkeys.esp=1 Vanilla hair remake SMP.esp=1 Stress and Fear.esp=1 Dynamic NPC Hairstyles.esp=1 Dynamic NPC Hairstyles DnB Patch.esp=1 LetYourHairDown.esp=1 NPCsReactToFrenzy.esp=1 Take a Nap.esp=1 Additional Dremora Faces.esp=1 Dremora Lines Expansion.esp=1 ConditionalStaminaCosts.esp=1 bodyscars.esp=1 opmfgconsole.esp=1 MoreBrains.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp=1 CWR_IC_Patch.esp=1 Bells of Skyrim - ICAIO Patch.esp=1 alternate start - live another life.esp=1 BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp=1 RealisticWaterTwo.esp=1 RW2RND.esp=1 ELFX - Hardcore.esp=1 LiveAnotherLife - ELFX Hardcore.esp=1 Alternate Start ELFX Fix.esp=1 Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp=1 Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1 Edit: Basically, I traced the culprit, using More Informative Console, which showed me that Unofficial Skyrim Patch was the last mod to overwrite active effects and actor values on NPC and creatures. I couldn't find the exact effect who made them passive, but I just: 1) Uninstalled Unofficial Skyrim Patch. 2) Cleaned the save with Fallrim Tools from all the active plugin changeforms and plugin script instances, and making a new copy of the save. 3) Reinstalled Unoffical Skyrim Patch by letting it win all conflicts. 4) Loaded the new save. Leaving this here in case someone has my same issue, and looks for a solution. Edited April 13 by aceaceace96
flutie Posted April 12 Posted April 12 (edited) https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/62934 Proteus, this mod will allow you to adjust faction, you can try it, if you have a Papyrus log or crash log, might be able to narrow it down, you may have to go back to early save any mods you have added between this and last save? Edited April 12 by flutie
Tainted_Soul Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 5 hours ago, flutie said: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/62934 Proteus, this mod will allow you to adjust faction, you can try it, if you have a Papyrus log or crash log, might be able to narrow it down, you may have to go back to early save any mods you have added between this and last save? Just eFPS - Exterior FPS boost, but in the other characters everything’s fine.
flutie Posted April 12 Posted April 12 so it just the one save, it would be almost impossible to narrow down, script corruption, multiple scripts launching at the same time and a reset script not launching when needed, such as the guard reset script, which put you into the bandit faction, have you tried Fllrim Tools https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/76776, it might clean any loose scripts that are in limbo
Tainted_Soul Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 Yup. Fallrim Tools found nothing, the save looks clean. I’ll try to find out some more with More Informative Console. Thanks anyway, if I find anything, I’ll update the post.
Erebea Posted April 12 Posted April 12 When did all the enemy NPCs become friendly? Did an event, either vanilla or modded, happen just before this issue started? If you go back to a much earlier save for that character are they still allied with enemies?
Tainted_Soul Posted April 12 Author Posted April 12 No particular event. Yes, every save with this character. (I only played for 90 minutes)
Erebea Posted April 12 Posted April 12 That's weird, if the save is only 90 minutes old I wouldn't have expected anything to have caused it during that short time frame. Only thing I can think of, is maybe something from the alternative start mod got stuck, if you'd picked a start that allied your character with bandits etc. Maybe start a new save choosing the inn starting option, and see if the issues persists. If it does, you might have to try deactivating some mods and starting another new save, until the issue stops happening. 1
Tainted_Soul Posted April 13 Author Posted April 13 Ok, thank to you both for your inputs, but I found the solution: Basically, I traced the culprit, using More Informative Console, which showed me that Unofficial Skyrim Patch was the last mod to overwrite active effects and actor values on NPC and creatures. I couldn't find the exact effect who made them passive, but I just: 1) Uninstalled Unofficial Skyrim Patch. 2) Cleaned the save with Fallrim Tools from all the active plugin changeforms and plugin script instances, and making a new copy of the save. 3) Reinstalled Unoffical Skyrim Patch by letting it win all conflicts. 4) Loaded the new save. Leaving this here in case someone has my same issue, and looks for a solution 2
NCK30 Posted April 13 Posted April 13 (edited) Lucky that You solved it. Immersive Creatures have a reputation for this kind of behavior too. I had a similar effect on my game. Turns out it was "Bathing in Skyrim". Using a soap made from Spriggan Sap it would make animals stop attacking me. Ever since I have never made that soap again. Hence not had that issue since. Also unsure how much good the Unofficial Patch does compared to the bad. The author Arthmoor would tell you otherwise. But in LE I had major issues with the ending fight in Dragonborn DLC and the final fight in the College. I was 90 % sure that cleaning my masters and using the Unofficial patch had bad effects on my game. Edited April 13 by NCK30
Tainted_Soul Posted April 13 Author Posted April 13 2 hours ago, NCK30 said: Lucky that You solved it. Immersive Creatures have a reputation for this kind of behavior too. I had a similar effect on my game. Turns out it was "Bathing in Skyrim". Using a soap made from Spriggan Sap it would make animals stop attacking me. Ever since I have never made that soap again. Hence not had that issue since. Also unsure how much good the Unofficial Patch does compared to the bad. The author Arthmoor would tell you otherwise. But in LE I had major issues with the ending fight in Dragonborn DLC and the final fight in the College. I was 90 % sure that cleaning my masters and using the Unofficial patch had bad effects on my game. Hey, this sounds familiar, maybe I stumbled across your post while looking for troubleshooting ahah Yeah I know about Immersive Creatures, some people told me this particular behaviour isn't caused by it, but it interacts with it in a weird way, and can cause this issue, Anyway, I hope it won't show up, again. Luckily I have backups of everything, MCM configuration included. 1
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