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I have run into this bug which is similar to some other threads that I found here, nexus forums, and reddit, but none of what I've seen are exactly like mine. My PC's facial expression keeps changing, somewhat randomly. I guess there are several set expressions, but it will flop between fear, sad, and anger with different modifiered and phonene settings. This started after a non-con event from Babodialogue, and now I can't get her to go pack to the neutral expression. What's strange compared to similar issues that I found is that other users either haven't been able to change the expression at all, or they can use mfg reset to get back to neutral, but then go back to the same expression after a few seconds. I can use the mfg reset command (or any other mfg command) to fix the expression, but after 20 seconds or so it just changes on its own again. I'm pretty mod illiterate when it comes to troubleshooting on my own, so I don't even know where to look to figure out what is forcing the expression change.

 

I've tried several options, all of them reset my PC's face to neutral, but whatever is causing the issue just updates 20 seconds later. These include: MFG reset, showracemenu, recycleactor and player.resurrect (which both break several other mods). 

 

Here is my load order (which i guess is just my plugins and IDK how to get my other 110 mods that don't have a plugin)

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# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
_ResourcePack.esl
unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp
Vanilla Script MicroOptimizations.esl
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full ESL Version.esm
SexLab.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab Attraction.esm
SexLab sslAnimationSlots 3000 SE.esl
Occ_Skyrim_Tamriel.esp
LMAO.esm
Campfire.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
High Poly Head.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
Extra Encounters Reborn - Basic.esm
Aero.esl
PamaFurnitureScr.esp
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
PamaInteractiveBeatup.esm
Heels Sound.esm
Vanilla Scripts Enhanced.esl
PamaPrisonAlternative.esm
Fertility Mode.esm
SkyUI_SE.esp
DD - BRRF_Patch - Cursed Loot.esp
ImprovedRoads.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
weapons armor clothing & clutter fixes.esp
troublesofheroine.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
SL Survival.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
OwnCivilWar.esp
Public Whore.esp
[Ryan Reos] Dark Elf Blader.esp
[full_inu] Queen Marika's Dress.esp
[COCO] Deliciously Bride.esp
[COCO] CaressofVenus.esp
RaceMenu.esp
FNIS.esp
SLSF Reloaded.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Devious Devices - BRRF.esp
Devious Devices For Him.esp
BaboInteractiveDia.esp
SLUTS.esp
Damsels Breeding Slaves.esp
FurnitureMarkerSex.esp
FameCommentsReloaded.esp
EmpoweredMagic.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Bondage Furniture World.esp
Extra Encounters Reborn - Dragonborn.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp
Fertility Mode 3 Fixes and Updates.esp
Extra Encounters Reborn - CSP.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
Laura's Bondage Shop.esp
DeviousFollowers.esp
DF SLACS Patch.esp
troublesofheroineDG.esp
SexLab Approach.esp
018Auri.esp
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
RDO Updated.esp
MilkModNEW.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
Honorhall Fixes and Expansion.esp
troublesofheroineDB.esp
SexyStartingOptions.esp
MilkMod_MilkPumpsBasicNB.esp
BooksOfDibella.esp
Recorder Follower Base.esp
PrisonAlternative_Executions_Riften.esp
PaPunishmentPack1.esp
Damsels in Distress.esp
KSHairVanilla1.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
PrisonAlternative_Executions_WindHelm.esp
Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp
Next-Gen Decapitations.esp
PamaSovngardeAftermath.esp
Missives.esp
submissivelola_est.esp
DeviousFollowers - Unofficially Patched.esp
DeviousFollowers - Cutting Room Floor - Patch.esp
naruto overhaul.esp
PrisonAlternative_Executions_Solitude.esp
cfl_LolaAddon.esp
FNISspells.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
BD Armor and clothes replacer.esp
CBBE.esp
FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp
3BBB.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
SOSPhysicsManager.esp
zDarkArena.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
_GSPoses.esp
Damsels Desired Prize.esp
icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
MCMHelper.esp
UIExtensions.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
BecomeABard.esp
VioLens SE.esp
AutoHideAmmo.esp
Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp
Pickpocket100Chance.esp
SexLabTools.esp
SexLabMatchMaker.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
OSLAroused.esp
OAroused.esp
SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
AnubAnimObj.esp
SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
CobaltAnimations.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
pahe-tdf-patch.esp
sr_FillHerUp.esp
MilkModNEW ZaZ Sanbox.esp
MilkModNEW CF.esp
MilkModNEW HF.esp
MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp
Advanced Nudity Detection.esp
SlaveTats.esp
AutonomousSexFramework.esp
ASF - SLA Integration.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
Devious Devices - Equip NG Extras.esp
ASF - BOS Activators.esp
DBVO.esp
Naked Defeat.esp
troublesofheroineHF.esp
Extra Encounters Reborn - Dawnguard.esp
Licenses.esp
Licenses - First Person Messages.esp
Licenses - Ambience.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
RapeTattoos.esp
FadeTattoos.esp
dse-display-model.esp
dse-display-model-loadscreens.esp
Follower Slavery Mod.esp
PWPatch.esp
PWComments.esp
DevFollowersVoiceMore.esp
Bathing in Skyrim.esp
Bathing in Skyrim - First Person Messages.esp
DarkArena-CleanedDialogTopics.esp
Malignis Sound FX.esp
FNISSexyMove.esp
RaceMenuHH.esp
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
vampeyefix.esp
Fixed body collision.esp
noCamColl_2_SE.esp
CS_Visions.esp
CS_Auri.esp
Extra Encounters Reborn - HSR.esp
WetFunction.esp
SimpleItemSpawner.esp
SLACS_2_Plus_SCO.esp
DW.esp
[Predator] MME Harness.esp
ASF - Furniture Lite.esp
Zaz.esp
SL Solutions v3 Revisited 1.1.6 Voicepack.esp
Fill Her Up 1.96 Voice Lines.esp
Slave Girls By Hydragorogon Voice Lines.esp
Submissive Lola The Resubmission 2.1.6 Valerica Voice Lines.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Marriage Lines Only.esp
SLSFFameComments Voice Files0.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Voice Lines1.esp
SLSFFameComments Voice Files1.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 No Marriage Lines1.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Voice Lines.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Voice Lines0.esp
SLSFFameComments Voice Files.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 No Marriage Lines.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Voice Lines2.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 No Marriage Lines0.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Voice Lines Update.esp
Radiant Prostitution RMCW 8.1.1 Voice Lines.esp
SLUTS Resume Voice Lines.esp
PWComments 1.7 Voice Files.esp
SLSFFameComments Voice Files2.esp
SLSFFameComments 3.64 Marriage Lines Only0.esp
Troubles of Heroine 3.0.0 Voice Lines0.esp
Troubles of Heroine 2.8.2 Voice Lines.esp
Troubles of Heroine 3.0.0 Voice Lines.esp
Troubles of Heroine 2.8.2 Voice Lines0.esp
Troubles of Heroine 3.0.0 Voice Lines1.esp
Troubles of Heroine 2.8.2 Voice Lines1.esp
Submissive Lola The Resubmission 2.1.6 Voice Lines loose.esp
Submissive Lola The Resubmission 2.1.6 Voice Lines loose0.esp
Submissive Lola The Resubmission 2.1.6 Voice Lines loose1.esp
[Caenarvon] Plegian Dark Mage.esp
[Christine] Gladiatorae Pack.esp
[Caenarvon] Cosplay Basics.esp
[Caenarvon] Magecore.esp
[Caenarvon] Pharaoh Slave.esp
[Christine] Dragon Priestess.esp
[COCO]Raikou.esp
[ELLE] Elven Lake.esp
Aether Outfit.esp
Inn Room Privacy.esp
[ELLE] Mageali.esp
[immyneedscake] RyanReos BladeDancer Mercenary.esp
DX StLouis SE.esp
Obi's Derketo Priestess.esp
Obi's Elven Assassin.esp
ObiDruchiiArmor.esp
RogueOutfit.esp
Shas' Chains and Silks.esp
KSHairVanilla2.esp
KSHairVanilla3.esp
SLSO.esp
SLATE.esp
DD - BRRF_Patch - Equip.esp
Poser Hotkeys.esp
PCA Sneak For HighHeels.esp
World Changes.esp
CumSwallowNeedsAddon.esp
CumSwallowNeeds_BeggingAddon.esp
InnBath.esp
BakaMotionData.esp
BakaFactoryABC.esp
MNC_ABC_Patch.esp
adcSexlife.esp
[Predator] Custom HP Head edits.esp
BaboDialogue 5.80 Voice Pack Complete SE.esp
BaboDialogue 5.80 Voice Pack Complete SE0.esp
BaboDialogue 5.80 Voice Pack Complete SE2.esp
BaboDialogue 5.80 Voice Pack Complete SE1.esp
SLAP Redux 3.60 NG Voice Pack.esp
SLAP Redux 3.60 NG Voice Pack0.esp
SLAP Redux 3.60 NG Voice Pack1.esp
BaboDialogue 5.70-5.80 Voice Pack Update SE.esp
Bondage Furniture World_Voice.esp
Naked Defeat_Voice.esp
Devious Devices - Integration_Voice.esp
MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
MF_SpectatorCrowds_Voices1.esp
Radiant Prostitution Voice.esp
Simple Slavery Voice.esp
Sexlab Solutions Voice.esp
DBVO Ciri Sexlab Survival.esp
[COCO]Goddess War.esp
[COCO]Goddess War v2.esp
CumAmalgamator.esp
LockMeTender.esp
AylaRecorderReplacer.esp
Apocalypse - Cheat Chests.esp
Licenses - Dialogue Patch.esp
RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.esp
[ELLE] Sena.esp
alternate start - live another life.esp
RugsNoMore.esp
 

Thanks in advance to anyone who has any help to give. Honestly just tell me how I can find out what is forcing the expression changes would be great. 

Posted
10 hours ago, 2004 Toyota Camry SE V6 said:

What's strange compared to similar issues that I found is that other users either haven't been able to change the expression at all, or they can use mfg reset to get back to neutral, but then go back to the same expression after a few seconds.

 

Nothing strange about that, you just have a mod that's constantly setting the expression. Babodialogue seems likely, since you said it started after it did something.

 

10 hours ago, 2004 Toyota Camry SE V6 said:

I've tried several options, all of them reset my PC's face to neutral, but whatever is causing the issue just updates 20 seconds later. These include: MFG reset, showracemenu, recycleactor and player.resurrect (which both break several other mods).

 

None of these have anything to do with identifying or stopping a running script, so that's why none of that worked.

 

10 hours ago, 2004 Toyota Camry SE V6 said:

Here is my load order...

 

Sure, but instead of guessing I'd recommend you search through all pex files in all mods (including in BSA archives) for "SetExpressionOverride". Once you know all the possible candidates where it might be coming from, you can start looking into ways to fix or work around the issue.

 

A tool such as Notepad++ can do the search, but it won't search within packed BSA archives. If you need to search everything, I've made a tool specifically for searching for text in Skyrim. It's available upon request.

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