[Mod]Loving Pal - Interaction Palworld Mod

[Derethevil]

A shame that this isn't up to date.
With the current implementation of the breeding system...
It would fit so perfect now and would add a tremendous amount of actual gameplay value.

[ShadyKitsune]

4 hours ago, Derethevil said:

A shame that this isn't up to date.
With the current implementation of the breeding system...
It would fit so perfect now and would add a tremendous amount of actual gameplay value.

 

Even if it was up to date, it won't have any interaction with scake going forward. It'll be operating on another framework instead.

[Derethevil]

5 hours ago, ShadyKitsune said:

 

Even if it was up to date, it won't have any interaction with scake going forward. It'll be operating on another framework instead.

Isn't it using S-Cake already? How come it wouldn't be using it anymore if it were to be updated?

[ShadyKitsune]

7 hours ago, Derethevil said:

Isn't it using S-Cake already? How come it wouldn't be using it anymore if it were to be updated?

 

Because the scake owner burned pretty much every other early access modder besides TemTem, Lurker, Shiinr, and alphabetsoupdog.

 

If Mono updates this mod, it'll be reworked to not be compatible with scake anymore. Maybe he'll keep the current files around for those who want to stick to 0.6.18, but anything newer just isn't gonna happen.

[FurGooner69]

16 hours ago, ShadyKitsune said:

 

Because the scake owner burned pretty much every other early access modder besides TemTem, Lurker, Shiinr, and alphabetsoupdog.

 

If Mono updates this mod, it'll be reworked to not be compatible with scake anymore. Maybe he'll keep the current files around for those who want to stick to 0.6.18, but anything newer just isn't gonna happen.

I keep seeing people mention some drama that went on with scake, thats a shame there was so many great animators releasing stuff a year ago. is there a new animation framework mod in the making then? or is Scake the only mod for that?

[ANiceDayOutside]

4 hours ago, FurGooner69 said:

I keep seeing people mention some drama that went on with scake, thats a shame there was so many great animators releasing stuff a year ago. is there a new animation framework mod in the making then? or is Scake the only mod for that?

 

Yes there is a new framework in development. I think there will be a beta release soon. You can join the Jackal's Den discord for progress updates

[ShadyKitsune]

16 hours ago, FurGooner69 said:

I keep seeing people mention some drama that went on with scake, thats a shame there was so many great animators releasing stuff a year ago. is there a new animation framework mod in the making then? or is Scake the only mod for that?

 

That's why its depressing, it didn't need to happen at all. But it just is what it is at this point now, everyone aware of it is patiently waiting for things to pick back up again once the new framework releases (it will have some growing pains understandably as a new thing, plus being a framework as a whole), but since the author working on it has a better temperament, relationship with other modders, and has stated it will be open source (a positive to prevent hiding nonsense for slander or other).

[Derethevil]

10 hours ago, ShadyKitsune said:

 

That's why its depressing, it didn't need to happen at all. But it just is what it is at this point now, everyone aware of it is patiently waiting for things to pick back up again once the new framework releases (it will have some growing pains understandably as a new thing, plus being a framework as a whole), but since the author working on it has a better temperament, relationship with other modders, and has stated it will be open source (a positive to prevent hiding nonsense for slander or other).

Without trying to tear open an old wound or something, what did even happen there? 
I mean i have a vague suspicion on what is going on (again) but i do not like to assume things.
Has it something to do with rainbows?

[ShadyKitsune]

1 hour ago, Derethevil said:

Without trying to tear open an old wound or something, what did even happen there? 
I mean i have a vague suspicion on what is going on (again) but i do not like to assume things.
Has it something to do with rainbows?

 

Nope, the framework author, who has openly shared that he doesn't know how to animate that well, has an issue with several animators and modelers that lead to behind the scenes drama, but ultimately culminated in pushing an update one day (version 0.6.19) that had malicious code in it to rename the author section of anyone he didn't respect to "a poopoo head" (more specifically, xMenar, Bakkas, Greyu, Z3N-Dragon, and Sibelyx as the most extensive animators at the time). He later quietly removed the code to hide any wrongdoing and make them sound crazy if they didn't have in-game screenshots of its effect.

 

It's grade school antics, but it showed those in the know that he wouldn't be above potentially sabotaging people in isolated ways as long as they continued using his items that only he could mess with. It's the driving reason that PalMagic (he calls this reverse engineered, to the point of being near stolen [its not]) and DynamicPals (he calls this AI slop [it's not]) came into the mix as Altermatic alternatives, why there's so many large scale animation packs out of date or ending at version 0.6.18 specifically, and now an animation framework is being worked on as an alternative to sugar cake.

 

The most pressing issue is that he likes to twist the story to fit his narrative from anyone who asks "why?" and will try to put blame on like....9 people as though they're a council of masterminds who "failed to control and manipulate him and his community (The Broken Chatbox)", when in reality most of them just want to move on and be done and disconnected from him.

Edited August 31 by ShadyKitsune
minor clarifications and spell checking

[Derethevil]

3 hours ago, ShadyKitsune said:

 

Nope, the framework author, who has openly shared that he doesn't know how to animate that well, has an issue with several animators and modelers that lead to behind the scenes drama, but ultimately culminated in pushing an update one day (version 0.6.19) that had malicious code in it to rename the author section of anyone he didn't respect to "a poopoo head" (more specifically, xMenar, Bakkas, Greyu, Z3N-Dragon, and Sibelyx as the most extensive animators at the time). He later quietly removed the code to hide any wrongdoing and make them sound crazy if they didn't have in-game screenshots of its effect.

 

It's grade school antics, but it showed those in the know that he wouldn't be above potentially sabotaging people in isolated ways as long as they continued using his items that only he could mess with. It's the driving reason that PalMagic (he calls this reverse engineered, to the point of being near stolen [its not]) and DynamicPals (he calls this AI slop [it's not]) came into the mix as Altermatic alternatives, why there's so many large scale animation packs out of date or ending at version 0.6.18 specifically, and now an animation framework is being worked on as an alternative to sugar cake.

 

The most pressing issue is that he likes to twist the story to fit his narrative from anyone who asks "why?" and will try to put blame on like....9 people as though they're a council of masterminds who "failed to control and manipulate him and his community (The Broken Chatbox)", when in reality most of them just want to move on and be done and disconnected from him.

Thank you for elaborating. 
And again. I apologize that i had to ask. Same as i ask for forgiveness to any Moderator etc. who reads it and gets annoyed or something. That was NOT my intention. I just wanted to know the reasons for all the issues we have right now.

So it was just being malicious from his side, not that they actually did him any wrong?
Huh.. i still remember some years ago where we already had quite a lot of drama for the reason i mentioned. LGBTQ+ stuff.

There you could even have told me, people had a reason why to be upset. But this?

Fuck me.. not sure how old this guy is, but if he is a youngster.. maybe in a few years he is gonna hate himself for whatever he did.

OR we do not even know the full story and he actually had a reason? I don't know. But from what it sounds like, it really is just stupidity and malicious intentions cranked to 11 from one side. 

Now i even understand why i got told by someone how i should not be using SCake. 


Man.. what are we even doing here at this point? Can't we just enjoy things and jack off or "enjoy" it in a different way? Furries..

[ShadyKitsune]

3 hours ago, Derethevil said:

Thank you for elaborating. 
And again. I apologize that i had to ask. Same as i ask for forgiveness to any Moderator etc. who reads it and gets annoyed or something. That was NOT my intention. I just wanted to know the reasons for all the issues we have right now.

So it was just being malicious from his side, not that they actually did him any wrong?
Huh.. i still remember some years ago where we already had quite a lot of drama for the reason i mentioned. LGBTQ+ stuff.

There you could even have told me, people had a reason why to be upset. But this?

Fuck me.. not sure how old this guy is, but if he is a youngster.. maybe in a few years he is gonna hate himself for whatever he did.

OR we do not even know the full story and he actually had a reason? I don't know. But from what it sounds like, it really is just stupidity and malicious intentions cranked to 11 from one side. 

Now i even understand why i got told by someone how i should not be using SCake. 


Man.. what are we even doing here at this point? Can't we just enjoy things and jack off or "enjoy" it in a different way? Furries..

 

No need to apologize for anything. It more so annoys me how he tries to spin the story one way, rather than what actually happened.

 

But yeah, no one was trying to do anything to him in the slightest. He had made the first animation framework and a replacement for having multiple pal skins over each gender, rather than one replacer per pal as a whole (not knocking those who prefer the replacers, I get why) and people wanted to jump onto using it where they could, both authors and users alike. But the authors started having problems with him over time behind the scenes, then it got more public as he started booting people he disagreed with from his discord, now stalks other servers on alts, while spreading misinformation to bring unknowing or unconfirmed users to his side while demonizing the others.

 

This community seems very open to LGBTQ+ content as a whole, so luckily that's not one of the issues at hand though, but guy is at least over 30 from how he carries himself between episodes. There was no reason though, he just doesn't like some animators and some modelers, especially ones who don't use his frameworks.

 

Lastly, funny you say it cause he's not a furry himself. Last I recall, he hated Pocketpair for a while for not condemning the NSFW modding side alongside another predominant modder in the SFW side of things.

[Derethevil]

1 hour ago, ShadyKitsune said:

 

No need to apologize for anything. It more so annoys me how he tries to spin the story one way, rather than what actually happened.

 

But yeah, no one was trying to do anything to him in the slightest. He had made the first animation framework and a replacement for having multiple pal skins over each gender, rather than one replacer per pal as a whole (not knocking those who prefer the replacers, I get why) and people wanted to jump onto using it where they could, both authors and users alike. But the authors started having problems with him over time behind the scenes, then it got more public as he started booting people he disagreed with from his discord, now stalks other servers on alts, while spreading misinformation to bring unknowing or unconfirmed users to his side while demonizing the others.

 

This community seems very open to LGBTQ+ content as a whole, so luckily that's not one of the issues at hand though, but guy is at least over 30 from how he carries himself between episodes. There was no reason though, he just doesn't like some animators and some modelers, especially ones who don't use his frameworks.

 

Lastly, funny you say it cause he's not a furry himself. Last I recall, he hated Pocketpair for a while for not condemning the NSFW modding side alongside another predominant modder in the SFW side of things.

Ahh..
A closet furry then. xD

[Serverscrying]

On 8/30/2026 at 6:57 PM, ANiceDayOutside said:

 

Yes there is a new framework in development. I think there will be a beta release soon. You can join the Jackal's Den discord for progress updates

I really hope it'll have some reverse compatibility with all current mods because at this point I can't be assed to yet again swap everything out. How is does Palworld modding keep circling back to some drama destroying the scene?

[ShadyKitsune]

5 hours ago, Serverscrying said:

I really hope it'll have some reverse compatibility with all current mods because at this point I can't be assed to yet again swap everything out. How is does Palworld modding keep circling back to some drama destroying the scene?

 

When it drops, the current animators on 0.6.18 will begin updating/adding new packs to work with again because it'll be an option that removes ties to said "drama" once and for all.

 

The only wildcard is when the current one exacerbating drama tries to get the site admins to take it down like he did PalMagic once before, claiming stolen code and what not just to try and keep what monopoly he has on it.

[ANiceDayOutside]

23 hours ago, ShadyKitsune said:

 

When it drops, the current animators on 0.6.18 will begin updating/adding new packs to work with again because it'll be an option that removes ties to said "drama" once and for all.

 

The only wildcard is when the current one exacerbating drama tries to get the site admins to take it down like he did PalMagic once before, claiming stolen code and what not just to try and keep what monopoly he has on it.

 

He can't really claim "stolen code" given that his mod is closed-source... How would one even get that source to begin with? Besides, it's open source and the admins can clearly see that it wouldn't be true.

[ShadyKitsune]

23 minutes ago, ANiceDayOutside said:

 

He can't really claim "stolen code" given that his mod is closed-source... How would one even get that source to begin with? Besides, it's open source and the admins can clearly see that it wouldn't be true.

 

Didn't stop him from claiming that on PalMagic and the site admins took his word for it. To this day he calls it "reverse engineered", while calling DynamicPals "generative AI slop".

[FurGooner69]

On 8/31/2026 at 12:51 AM, ShadyKitsune said:

 

That's why its depressing, it didn't need to happen at all. But it just is what it is at this point now, everyone aware of it is patiently waiting for things to pick back up again once the new framework releases (it will have some growing pains understandably as a new thing, plus being a framework as a whole), but since the author working on it has a better temperament, relationship with other modders, and has stated it will be open source (a positive to prevent hiding nonsense for slander or other).

Damn, i've seen some petty stuff working as a software developer but thats one of the more childish cases. its a shame there were a lot of animations packs when i last played palworld lots of talent popping up in the NSWF community of this. shame to see this has more or less halted that progress temporary till this new framework comes out. Hope this drama doesn't cause a divide were you are either scake or the new framework when it come to the animators. 

[ShadyKitsune]

35 minutes ago, FurGooner69 said:

Damn, i've seen some petty stuff working as a software developer but thats one of the more childish cases. its a shame there were a lot of animations packs when i last played palworld lots of talent popping up in the NSWF community of this. shame to see this has more or less halted that progress temporary till this new framework comes out. Hope this drama doesn't cause a divide were you are either scake or the new framework when it come to the animators. 

 

It's up to users, and they shouldn't be staked by which one they choose. Choice matters more than tribalism on something as low risk as "fucking the digital island natives". But unless newer folks end up sharing their talents and skills with scake, it'll continue bleeding content creators due to the actions of its author.

 

Spoiler

It has, what, 3 up to date items currently in TemTem, Lurker, and Shiin(?), yet I caught wind that Shiin was removed from the server because they associated with (had normal conversations in) one of the 3 servers the author doesn't like for example.

 

[MorningDance1997]

On 8/31/2026 at 12:22 PM, ShadyKitsune said:

It's grade school antics, but it showed those in the know that he wouldn't be above potentially sabotaging people in isolated ways as long as they continued using his items that only he could mess with. It's the driving reason that PalMagic (he calls this reverse engineered, to the point of being near stolen [its not]) and DynamicPals (he calls this AI slop [it's not]) came into the mix as Altermatic alternatives, why there's so many large scale animation packs out of date or ending at version 0.6.18 specifically, and now an animation framework is being worked on as an alternative to sugar cake.

What's been happening with that scake alternative? I saw someone say it was on jackal's den but I can't find it.

[ShadyKitsune]

17 hours ago, MorningDance1997 said:

What's been happening with that scake alternative? I saw someone say it was on jackal's den but I can't find it.

 

It's a WIP is why currently, but it's being worked on by MonoDragon (LovingPal creator). Frameworks don't come as fast as standard mods and packs do, so it is a test of patience for now.

 

Edit: And since I now learn there was feature theft every time Mono said something, yeah, gonna be a shadow project until it's ready to release.

Edited September 8 by ShadyKitsune