frogpilll Posted March 5 Posted March 5 Im relatively inexperienced with modding and trying to figure this out alone has me stumped. This is my last Crash log from buffout to help anyone smarter than me figure this out. Been trying to get my mods working for hours, troubleshooting and disabling recently downloaded mods from before this started. Every time I start a new game whenever I get to the mirror and Nate starts to say "War never changes" my game immediately crashes (I'm assuming it has to do with Nora being rendered and my mods are conflicting but I've kinda felt lost for a bit now). Any help is much appreciated whether its the immediate fix or something to help me learn to fix it myself. If you need any extra info just send a reply and I'll get back to you ASAP. crash-2026-03-05-21-27-47.log
flutie Posted March 5 Posted March 5 do you have looks menu installed, sounds a cosmetic mod is trying to load, causing the crash, look towards the looks menu install, post a load order will help too
frogpilll Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 3 hours ago, flutie said: do you have looks menu installed, sounds a cosmetic mod is trying to load, causing the crash, look towards the looks menu install, post a load order will help too Yeah, the load order is almost certainly f*cked beyond repair because i'm just using LOOT autosort. Learned about the Plugin limit but only 245 of these are active with the other 105 being set as light. IDK if this still causes issues or anything but thanks for replying, genuinely really appreciate it. Load Order is: PLUGINS: [ 0] Fallout4.esm [ 1] DLCRobot.esm [ 2] DLCworkshop01.esm [ 3] DLCCoast.esm [ 4] DLCworkshop02.esm [ 5] DLCworkshop03.esm [ 6] DLCNukaWorld.esm [ 7] Unofficial Fallout 4 Patch.esp [ 8] HUDFramework.esm [ 9] ArmorKeywords.esm [ A] TrueStormsFO4.esm [ B] AAF.esm [ C] MutantMenagerie.esm [ D] MutantMenagerie_FarHarbor.esm [ E] DCGuard_Overhaul.esp [ F] InstituteTechnologyOverhaul.esm [10] CWSS Redux.esp [11] Companion Infinite Ammo.esm [12] Homemaker.esm [13] TortureDevices.esm [14] Devious Devices.esm [15] ExtendedWeaponSystem.esm [16] KziitdFetishToolset.esm [17] SkimpyArmorKeywordResource.esm [18] EthreonMasterPlan.esm [19] four_play_resources.esm [1A] CBBE.esp [1B] OutcastsAndRemnants.esp [1C] ellen.esp [1D] llamaCompanionHeatherv2.esp [1E] 0_Vault120.esp [1F] AA FusionCityRising.esp [20] ProjectValkyrie.esp [21] Depravity.esp [22] Stm_DiamondCityExpansion.esp [23] Better Landscape Grass.esp [24] luxor8071 HD Texture Pack AIO.esp [25] CheatTerminal.esp [26] [ARRETH] FGEP.esp [27] PhotoMode.esp [28] AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp [29] SkipDiMAMemories.esp [2A] TheEyesOfBeauty.esp [2B] LMBTOverlays.esp [2C] LooksMenu.esp [2D] ClassicSniper.esp [2E] Scopes.esp [2F] HiPolyFaces.esp [30] LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp [31] KSHairdos_oel.esp [32] The Eyes Of Beauty.esp [33] TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp [34] Consistent Power Armor Overhaul.esp [35] PiperCaitCurieDialogueOverhaul.esp [36] CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp [37] DX_Black_Widow.esp [38] CROSS_Blades.esp [39] CombinedArmsNV.esp [3A] RedShiftPowerArmor.esp [3B] sarahRageArmor.esp [3C] VisibleCompanionAffinity.esp [3D] WestTekTacticalOptics.esp [3E] Scrap Everything - 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frogpilll Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 Also im on the downgraded 1.10.163 because I cant remember if I specified that already and feels like it helps.
deff. Posted March 6 Posted March 6 Disable all cosmetic mods and try to load without them. If everything is ok, then try to get them back one by one
subaverage Posted March 6 Posted March 6 (edited) 3 hours ago, deff. said: Disable all cosmetic mods and try to load without them. If everything is ok, then try to get them back one by one And if this doesn't help disable them all and play until you leave Vault111 the first time. Make a save and begin to reenable mods step by step (not all at once) with a lot of testing. I see mods in your list that might interfere with things that aren't loaded in the game in that early state. And besides "Scrap Everything" belongs to the very end of every load order. Your modlist contains 350 plugins. That means roundabout 100 plugins need to be esls or be flagged as such, because of the limit of 255 plugins that use a full modslot. Same with BA2 archives. The limit is 255 non texture BA2s. Exceeding these limits leeds to crashes, too. Edited March 6 by subaverage
frogpilll Posted March 6 Author Posted March 6 8 hours ago, subaverage said: And if this doesn't help disable them all and play until you leave Vault111 the first time. Make a save and begin to reenable mods step by step (not all at once) with a lot of testing. I see mods in your list that might interfere with things that aren't loaded in the game in that early state. And besides "Scrap Everything" belongs to the very end of every load order. Your modlist contains 350 plugins. That means roundabout 100 plugins need to be esls or be flagged as such, because of the limit of 255 plugins that use a full modslot. Same with BA2 archives. The limit is 255 non texture BA2s. Exceeding these limits leeds to crashes, too. 11 hours ago, deff. said: Disable all cosmetic mods and try to load without them. If everything is ok, then try to get them back one by one Thank you both! Will be going through it all now and get back here after giving it a go. Can't believe I hadnt thought of that tbh but very much appreciated! 1
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