Animations Always Oral

[Guest]

If an animation involves one person or one creature, SL always selects an oral animation.  This happens when it is an arousal activation or wearing DD activation not a defeat activation.  So Random sex mods.  Generally on the defeat activation.  I understand why oral on a defeat.  Will monitor this more.  May be the same.  I can change the animation but it is confusing why it does this.  I don't think a creature would want oral so it is an immersion thing.  Plus, I have plenty of animations to choose from.  Repeat or second animations from the same person are different.  🤔

 

Edited February 3 by TFor2

[traison]

1 hour ago, TFor2 said:

...SL always selects an oral animation.

 

SL is not responsible for filtering animations, that is always done by the mod that's setting up the SL scene thread.

 

1 hour ago, TFor2 said:

I can change the animation but it is confusing why it does this.

 

As in change it to something other than oral? That to me makes it sound like it's not a filtering issue but rather that something has changed SL's scripts. As far as I'm ware, there's no way to start a scene thread with all animations, but limit the starting animation to something specific. There's a hint in sslThreadController suggesting this was considered at some point:

; TODO: SetFirstAnimation() - allow custom defined starter anims instead of random

 

I was considering doing this at one point too, but ended up going a different route:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/253398-sexlab-tools-doesnt-show-any-animations-when-i-hit-h-only-a-cursor/#findComment-7074545

 

[Guest]

7 minutes ago, traison said:

 

SL is not responsible for filtering animations, that is always done by the mod that's setting up the SL scene thread.

 

 

As in change it to something other than oral? That to me makes it sound like it's not a filtering issue but rather that something has changed SL's scripts. As far as I'm ware, there's no way to start a scene thread with all animations, but limit the starting animation to something specific. There's a hint in sslThreadController suggesting this was considered at some point:

; TODO: SetFirstAnimation() - allow custom defined starter anims instead of random

 

I was considering doing this at one point too, but ended up going a different route:

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/253398-sexlab-tools-doesnt-show-any-animations-when-i-hit-h-only-a-cursor/#findComment-7074545

 

Thank you.  I started monitoring closely and creatures were around 75% oral.  I wasn't around people so I did some testing by adjusting settings in sexlab and rebuilt the json files in SL loader.  Went to a town and men were engaging me in lesbian animations.  The problem was that Sexlab was limiting my options to only FF animations.  It was consistent so something was broken.  May be unrelated to the oral thing and likely due to my changes.  I am rebuilding now.  Disabling anims, disabling SL and starting over to see what happens.  I will look at the link.  I really was thinking that some male random aggressive sex mods were tagging oral over other animations.  Programmed that way.  Maybe reload SL tools.  I've never touched the tools related to any sexlab mod so this will be a learning thing.  🤗

[Guest]

Loaded your patch.  Thank you.  Will do some testing.  Looking in MO2 and the tools mod was loaded in 2023.   Problem with not building a modlist on my own.  Take what I get.  I don't mind the oral fetish so much but all the food has garlic in it.  Hah.

 

Edit.  Froze during animation registering.  Working on it.  Edit: Had to remove the patch.  I'll continue to look into this.  TY

Edited February 3 by TFor2

[traison]

I would suggest you go grab Matchmaker and do your testing with that. Matchmaker is about as simple as it gets when it comes to setting up a scene. There's no tag filtering or other limitations. If it has all animations available, and starts reliably with a random one, then the problem is not in SL itself.

 

Since there's multiple matchmaker mods, this is the one I'm talking about: SexLab MatchMaker v9 (20210927)

Edited February 3 by traison

[Guest]

I will consider this a corrupt mod/save issue.  While I have had problems with men not knowing their gender in game, it normally is fixed through a reset of SL and SLAL.  It started after I climbed a mountain and saved at the top.  Slept, was assaulted, then ran down and climbed another mountain.  Upon entering a town soon after, screen went black and I was back on top of the mountain.  Rinse, conditioner, repeat.  I deleted these saves and continued without the teleportation.   I have mods that interact with Simple Slavery so the black screen was familiar.  Just not the destination.

 

The oral fixation and gender confusion started after this incident.  Normally, there is a higher percentage of random forced sex with men calling oral animations but nothing like it had become.  The next town, the men are now acting like women in animations.  So after a few more saves and a few load screens.  The gender issue was likely caused by me resetting, adjusting settings, delete cache, etc. etc. etc.  I have one more test and I will say goodbye to this game.  Not a 1170 issue at least.  Plus, the creatures know they are male and the interactions are consistent.  

 

Thanks for the input.  I think I found the issue.  @traison  "but rather that something has changed SL's scripts"  🥰

[traison]

38 minutes ago, TFor2 said:

Upon entering a town soon after, screen went black and I was back on top of the mountain.

 

There is or was a bug in SL where sometimes the scene marker doesn't get moved when a new scene is started. Basically one of the threads get stuck in the wrong state after a scene, casusing whichever pair of actors happens to use that stuck thread next to get flung across the world back to where the marker is.

 

I made a workaround for it in my own MCM which fixes the specific issue, but the DIY workaround that requires no coding is to just hit the SL reset button in it's MCM. This does a lot of other things as well, but it resets the threads fixing the teleport issue.

 

Speaking of this problem though, I haven't seen it in a long time. Perhaps it was a thing in 163, fixed in 166? I do not remember fixing it properly, nor do I have any notes about a fix.

 

Edit: The surgical workaround for the emerging hackers out there:

SetTextOptionValue(option, "Working...")

sslThreadSlots ThreadSlots = (M_Common.E_SexLab As Form) \
As sslThreadSlots

;ThreadSlots.StopAll()

sslThreadController[] threads = ThreadSlots.Threads
int i = threads.Length

While i
    i -= 1
    ;ResetQuest(Threads[i])
    Threads[i].CenterRef = none
    Threads[i].CenterAlias.Clear()
EndWhile

;Debug.Notification("Done")
SetTextOptionValue(option, "Done")

 

Edited February 3 by traison

[Guest]

Teleporting hasn't happened since I deleted those saves and started an earlier save.  Maybe it was unrelated to the bugs.  I'm saving this page though for next time - future reference.  Kind of you to explain. 

 

I disabled sexlab, all animations, restarted sexlab, empty cache somewhere in there, reset everything.  Creatures are working, non-guards are working with random sex.  It is the guards that are turning female in game.  Only on random sex.  I can ask for sex and it's normal.  I think the random sex is from Devious Curses.  It's not Sexy Adventures since I block towns and set a minimum for interaction.  I'm going to try using SLEN hotkey to switch genders on the guards next time it happens.  I never touch the SOS settings in that mod as I was told it swaps genders automatically.  So just test to see if the hotkey will work.  Probably not in the middle of an animation sequence.  I just hate I can't select MF anims when this happens. 

 

I'm enjoying this process trying to find the bad setting.  In the end, maybe just block guards from random sex.  Or stop wearing DD things so it won't trigger.  Or skip it all and go dancing. 🤩  I like the piercings though.  Thanks for the input.  Tina told me she used to get teleported to the sky near Whiterun and then die.  At least I don't have that problem.  Funny comment real quick.  My roommates were crowded around watching the men use lesbian animations in game.  They did not have nice comments about Skyrim after seeing that.  I plan to show them once it's fixed.  

 

(hope you post your armor - always looking for a new outfit)

Edited February 4 by TFor2