-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 Hello! First of all, although I have many mods, I'm not a pro at adding mods to the game. 🥲 I get a CTD during sex (I use SexLab p+ and Pandora). Sometimes when it starts, and often when I switch from one animation to another. With the list of mods I have, I've even tried starting a new game, but the problem persists. Any clue or help would be VERY GRATEFUL. 🙌 Mods list: Spoiler [ 0] Skyrim.esm [ 1] Update.esm [ 2] Dawnguard.esm [ 3] HearthFires.esm [ 4] Dragonborn.esm [ 5] ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm [ 6] ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm [ 7] unofficial skyrim special edition patch.esp [ 8] Lanterns Of Skyrim II.esm [ 9] 3DNPC.esp [ A] Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esm [ B] Water for ENB.esm [ C] Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm [ D] Campfire.esm [ E] ZaZAnimationPack.esm [ F] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm [10] Embers XD.esm [11] High Poly Head.esm [12] ApachiiHair.esm [13] ApachiiHairFemales.esm [14] RE_RealEstate_Core.esp [15] SexLab.esm [16] SexLabAroused.esm [17] CreatureFramework.esm [18] Devious Devices - Assets.esm [19] Devious Devices - Integration.esm [1A] Devious Devices - Expansion.esm [1B] Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm [1C] DynDOLOD.esm [1D] SkyUI_SE.esp [1E] Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp [1F] SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp [20] TrueStormsSE.esp [21] cutting room floor.esp [22] Embers XD.esp [23] RE_RealEstate.esp [24] Holidays.esp [25] Immersive Weapons.esp [26] TheAmazingWorldOfBikiniArmor.esp [27] Lit Road Signs.esp [28] Cloaks.esp [29] MoreNastyCritters.esp [2A] Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp [2B] Immersive Patrols II.esp [2C] Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp [2D] Real Estate USSEP.esp [2E] SunHelmSurvival.esp [2F] Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp [30] Remodeled Armor.esp [31] RaceMenu.esp [32] XPMSE.esp [33] SOSRaceMenu.esp [34] FNIS.esp [35] RaceMenuPlugin.esp [36] RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp [37] Cathedral Weathers.esp [38] The Amazing World of Bikini Armors REMASTERED.esp [39] ENB Light.esp [3A] run for your lives.esp [3B] SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp [3C] Schlongs of Skyrim.esp [3D] SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp [3E] UIExtensions.esp [3F] AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp [40] Differently Ebony.esp [41] 12FemaleBrows.esp [42] RemakeSkirt.esp [43] Wolfpaint_Face.esp [44] BarbarianPaints.esp [45] Lupine_YyvengarBodypaints.esp [46] [Zynx][NH] Mini Skirts.esp [47] SunHelmCampfireSkill.esp [48] Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp [49] Cloaks&Capes.esp [4A] Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp [4B] WetandCold.esp [4C] Fluffworks.esp [4D] AnubAnimObj.esp [4E] SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp [4F] SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp [50] SLALAnimObj.esp [51] BPAnims.esp [52] SLAL_GSAnimObjects.esp [53] FlufyFoxAnimObjects.esp [54] HornyCreatures.esp [55] Eli_Breezehome.esp [56] Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp [57] alternate start - live another life.esp [58] Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp [59] DynDOLOD.esp [FE: 0] ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl [FE: 1] ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl [FE: 2] _ResourcePack.esl [FE: 3] TheNewGentleman.esp [FE: 4] Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl [FE: 5] Heels Sound.esm [FE: 6] Particle Patch for ENB.esp [FE: 7] 3DNPC Alternative Locations.esp [FE: 8] Embers XD - Patch - Lanterns of Skyrim II.esp [FE: 9] BHUNP- Expanded TEWOBA.esp [FE: A] LB Lady Alina SSE.esp [FE: B] LoS II - Campfire addon.esp [FE: C] LoS II - 3DNPC addon.esp [FE: D] CBBE.esp [FE: E] Embers XD - Fire Magick Add-On.esp [FE: F] Embers XD - Patch - Survival Mode.esp [FE: 10] LoS II - SMIM patch.esp [FE: 11] LoS II - USSEP patch.esp [FE: 12] Cathedral Weathers - Patch - Rudy ENB.esp [FE: 13] MoonsAndStars.esp [FE: 14] FSMPM - The FSMP MCM.esp [FE: 15] Dynamic Activation Key.esp [FE: 16] Simple Hunting Overhaul.esp [FE: 17] 3BBB.esp [FE: 18] SOSPhysicsManager.esp [FE: 19] DX Fetish Fashion Volume 1 SE.esp [FE: 1A] KSHairdosSMP.esp [FE: 1B] Obi's Derketo Priestess.esp [FE: 1C] ElegantMerchantClothes.esp [FE: 1D] SimpleItemSpawner.esp [FE: 1E] Simple Thong.esp [FE: 1F] KaliliesBrows.esp [FE: 20] CompleteVanillaEyeOverhaul_CVEObyLDD.esp [FE: 21] EvenMoreMakeup.esp [FE: 22] Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Fuse.esp [FE: 23] Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Dint999.esp [FE: 24] Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - HHairstyles.esp [FE: 25] Lamenthia's Marks of Beauty.esp [FE: 26] evgmodularSMPhair.esp [FE: 27] [COCO] CaressofVenus.esp [FE: 28] Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp [FE: 29] Cloaks&Capes_SMP_Patch.esp [FE: 2A] 3DNPC1.esp [FE: 2B] Apachii_DES_SMP_Patch.esp [FE: 2C] 3DNPC0.esp [FE: 2D] 3DNPC - CRF Patch.esp [FE: 2E] [Caenarvon] Magecore.esp [FE: 2F] TBD - NiseKardiaArmor.esp [FE: 30] MCMHelper.esp [FE: 31] ahzWaywardKnight.esp [FE: 32] Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp [FE: 33] Remodeled Armor AE.esp [FE: 34] OAroused.esp [FE: 35] OSLAroused.esp [FE: 36] BakaFactoryABC.esp [FE: 37] MNC_ABC_Patch.esp [FE: 38] SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp [FE: 39] NibblesAnimObjects.esp [FE: 3A] SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp [FE: 3B] BakaMotionData.esp [FE: 3C] SexLabSexSound.esp [FE: 3D] ScrappiesMatchmaker.esp [FE: 3E] Devious Devices SE patch.esp [FE: 3F] BHUNP NiseKardiaArmor.esp [FE: 40] BHUNP StalhrimBikini.esp [FE: 41] BikiniArmorQuest_ENG_Update.esp [FE: 42] TAWOBA Remastered Leveled List.esp [FE: 43] Sonders_Keyword_Distribution.esp [FE: 44] Eli_Breezehome [PATCH - USSEP].esp [FE: 45] Eli_Breezehome [PATCH - ASLAL].esp [FE: 46] Occlusion.esp Some logs here.. I don't know which ones are useful and which ones aren't. crash-2025-10-18-04-25-28.log CrashLogger.log Papyrus.0.log
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 This crash was indirectly caused by SexLabUtil.dll. There's an issue with the behaviour graph 0_Master.hkb of form id 0x00000007 "Test". Rebuild your behaviour files with FNIS and test again.
-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Author Posted October 18, 2025 3 hours ago, traison said: This crash was indirectly caused by SexLabUtil.dll. There's an issue with the behaviour graph 0_Master.hkb of form id 0x00000007 "Test". Rebuild your behaviour files with FNIS and test again. Can I use and run FNIS without conflicting with Pandora? I understand it has many benefits.
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 (edited) They write the same files, you can switch back and forth. I've done it several times while testing and such. Edited October 18, 2025 by traison
-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Author Posted October 18, 2025 3 hours ago, traison said: They write the same files, you can switch back and forth. I've done it several times while testing and such. The problem persists 😣 I tried running FNIS, then Pandora. I also tried running NEMESIS between FNIS and Pandora. I tried enabling all Output files, and I also tried leaving only the Pandora output. Sometimes I load a game and the animations run, but I reload the game and the CTD occurs in the same game. 😩
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 (edited) 17 minutes ago, -Karen- said: The problem persists... Post the crash log from when you had FNIS behaviour files. 17 minutes ago, -Karen- said: I tried enabling all Output files, and I also tried leaving only the Pandora output. I hope you know where your behaviour files are. One of the most common mistakes with these "output folders" is that people think ALL files from a program end up in them, when in fact it's just NEW files. A file that already exists in another mod is not a NEW file. Edited October 18, 2025 by traison
-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Author Posted October 18, 2025 (edited) 35 minutes ago, traison said: I hope you know where your behaviour files are. One of the most common mistakes with these "output folders" is that people think ALL files from a program end up in them, when in fact it's just NEW files. A file that already exists in another mod is not a NEW file. I hope the same 😔 This is my latest CTD log... FNIS and Pandora are enabled. Their respective outputs are activated. I first ran FNIS and then Pandora. (By the way... Pandora doesn't show me the list of mods on the left; it only shows "Pandora Base" and "XPMSE Patch For Pandora". However, when I run it, all the loaded animations appear on the right. I don't know if this is normal.) crash-2025-10-18-17-19-47.log Edited October 18, 2025 by -Karen-
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 1 minute ago, -Karen- said: FNIS and Pandora are enabled. Their respective outputs are activated. I first ran FNIS and then Pandora. FNIS and Pandora are mutually exclusive. Use either or, not both. I want to see a crash log from when FNIS has made your behaviour files. Not FNIS and Nemesis, not Pandora. At this point it is irrelevant whether your mods need Nemesis or Pandora to function. 2 minutes ago, -Karen- said: Pandora doesn't show me the list of mods on the left; it only shows "Pandora Base" and "XPMSE Patch For Pandora". However, when I run it, all the loaded animations appear on the right. I don't know if this is normal.) That is a bit unfortunate yes. It also doesn't say anything about broken FNIS animations, like trying to run LE animations on SE. FNIS does though.
-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Author Posted October 18, 2025 14 minutes ago, traison said: FNIS and Pandora are mutually exclusive. Use either or, not both. I want to see a crash log from when FNIS has made your behaviour files. Not FNIS and Nemesis, not Pandora. At this point it is irrelevant whether your mods need Nemesis or Pandora to function. Okay, I disabled Pandora and its output. I left only FNIS (and Creature Pack) and its output. I launched FNIS, loaded the animations, and started the game. After switching from one animation to another, the CTD returned. PS: Can you really read these files? Nice! crash-2025-10-18-17-47-27.log
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 Unfortunately this is caused by SexLabUtil.dll. Specifically the one provided by SLPP or "SexLabpp". It's doing something in Thread::Instance::AdvanceScene that its not supposed to do.
-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Author Posted October 18, 2025 That's just my luck, something happens to me that shouldn't 👌 It's okay, thanks a lot for your time 🙌 I'll have to start modding my game from scratch again.
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 (edited) 3 minutes ago, -Karen- said: That's just my luck, something happens to me that shouldn't... I meant it's going something that breaks SkyrimSE.exe. What it's doing is probably intended, but the one who made it didn't take into consideration one of the millions of variables involved in every single modded Skyrim setup. I would start by looking for another version or fork of this dll. Older, newer, doesn't matter. Maybe there's a version of this mod that doesn't come with a dll. Edited October 18, 2025 by traison
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 It could also be your missing a dependency of SLPP, either listed or hidden. The bug is in SkyrimSE.exe, but I wouldn't consider that a fair assessment considering how much we're modding it these days. Maybe you're missing something that's supposed to fix an issue in SkyrimSE.exe, allowing SLPP's dll to work as intended.
-Karen- Posted October 18, 2025 Author Posted October 18, 2025 8 minutes ago, traison said: It could also be your missing a dependency of SLPP, either listed or hidden. The bug is in SkyrimSE.exe, but I wouldn't consider that a fair assessment considering how much we're modding it these days. Maybe you're missing something that's supposed to fix an issue in SkyrimSE.exe, allowing SLPP's dll to work as intended. It's very difficult to figure out where the problem is when you don't understand much about the topic 🥲 but I'm checking the SLPP support section to see if there's anything I've missed.
traison Posted October 18, 2025 Posted October 18, 2025 16 minutes ago, -Karen- said: It's very difficult to figure out where the problem is... Having the source code for the dll could help, but I suspect all it's doing is playing an animation. Viewing the offset where it crashed in a debugger wouldn't help much either I suspect, since even if you spotted the bug, there's no telling which or if there even is a mod to fix it.
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