constant crashes mid save outta nowhere.

[just_dominic]

was playing and getting quite a few access errors (usually a few seconds after fast travel)

these are when it was processing morphs for chars (using obody, cbbe 3ba) it wasnt a big deal cuz i could just load the save again and continue on but just now i went in a dungeon and it crashed (again) trying to process a bandit bodymorphs and when i loaded my last save it insta CTD. this time though its saying lydia my followers bodymorph is causing the crash and even loading older saves isnt working now.
If anyone could help me solve this it would be greatly appreciated! i dont really wanna lose my save. 
(full crashlog for latest is attached. lemme know if i need to share anything else
crash-2025-08-14-02-49-35.log

 

[just_dominic]

an update. apparently this is very common problem people have with gog versions. though they didnt bother detailing much in how to fix it. if anyone has figured it out please share 

[traison]

1 hour ago, just_dominic said:

...apparently this is very common problem people have with gog versions.

 

No it's not, people just don't know how to read crash logs. "skee64.dll+00A5490" and the version (or better yet, checksum) of RaceMenu is the "signature" of your crash. Access denied just means it tried to access memory it wasn't allowed to, i.e. in 99.9% of all crashes that's what you're going to see. BrunoDWolfgan for instance is having issues with obody, that's entirely different.

 

4 hours ago, just_dominic said:

...this time though its saying lydia my followers bodymorph is causing the crash and even loading older saves isnt working now.
If anyone could help me solve this it would be greatly appreciated!

 

You got one detail wrong there. It's having issues with Lydia's overlays, not morphs.

 

Same issue as here. The offsets are different because it's a different skee version. Apparently this is a known issue indirectly caused by obody? RaceMenu versions after those made for 1.5.97 haven't really been as stable anymore. Obody is apparently quite good at bringing these issues out, and thus is maybe not a good mod to install if you want stability - RaceMenu being a sort of necessary evil in this regard.

 

Edit: Same issue has here.

 

Edit again: The same sledgehammer approach that was used here, may also work with this issue. While there is no patch directly for your RaceMenu version (maybe?), there may be one with the same checksum (which is all that matters). Post a request for your version in that thread, and I'll see about finding the patch offset if you can't find it yourself.

Edited August 14, 2025 by traison

[just_dominic]

9 hours ago, traison said:

 

No it's not, people just don't know how to read crash logs. "skee64.dll+00A5490" and the version (or better yet, checksum) of RaceMenu is the "signature" of your crash. Access denied just means it tried to access memory it wasn't allowed to, i.e. in 99.9% of all crashes that's what you're going to see. BrunoDWolfgan for instance is having issues with obody, that's entirely different.

 

 

You got one detail wrong there. It's having issues with Lydia's overlays, not morphs.

 

Same issue as here. The offsets are different because it's a different skee version. Apparently this is a known issue indirectly caused by obody? RaceMenu versions after those made for 1.5.97 haven't really been as stable anymore. Obody is apparently quite good at bringing these issues out, and thus is maybe not a good mod to install if you want stability - RaceMenu being a sort of necessary evil in this regard.

 

Edit: Same issue has here.

 

Edit again: The same sledgehammer approach that was used here, may also work with this issue. While there is no patch directly for your RaceMenu version (maybe?), there may be one with the same checksum (which is all that matters). Post a request for your version in that thread, and I'll see about finding the patch offset if you can't find it yourself.

Thanks for the help and correction! i do infact not know how to read crashlogs xD
Its kinda overwhelming for someone who has no experience with em really. Ill check out the links you gave and see if it solves it

Another guy also commented that this might help too so ill try that out (Race Menu GOG Bug Fix 1.6.1179) hopefully itll be fixed!

[traison]

That, based on the description, looks like it's going to fix an issue with the skee dll not loading. It most likely won't have anything to do with any of the crashes mentioned here, especially the ones coming from skee64.dll. RaceMenu can't crash if it isn't loaded.

[just_dominic]

21 minutes ago, traison said:

That, based on the description, looks like it's going to fix an issue with the skee dll not loading. It most likely won't have anything to do with any of the crashes mentioned here, especially the ones coming from skee64.dll. RaceMenu can't crash if it isn't loaded.

well ill still give it a try, cant hurt (hopefully). i was running the non gog version of racemenu (it was AE version 4-19-16 instead of the reccomended 4-19-14) i had both downloaded guess i installed the wrong one, and i did change the skse.ini to set bBodyMorphRebind and bBodyMorphGPUCopy to zero as i had only set enablebodygen to zero. and ive doubled the uBodyMorphMemoryLimit which i realize likely wont help with my crashes if its calling on something that doesnt exist but may help prevent other crashes down the line.
the only thing i havnt done yet is your 3rd link where you say to modify the dll file cuz im scared of fuckn something up but i will try that if the issue persists.

oh and i didnt install the smp hair npc fix in the 2nd link because it says its outdated in the downloads page and that bug it fixes shouldnt cause crashes anyway

[traison]

20 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

the only thing i havnt done yet is your 3rd link where you say to modify the dll file cuz im scared of fuckn something up...

 

The chance of you doing anything other than causing a different crash with a botched dll edit is quite tiny. Keep a backup of the dll before modification and you'll be fine. If you make sure the checksum is the same on your dll as in one of the fix offsets I've posted then follow the instructions carefully it'll work.

 

22 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

oh and i didnt install the smp hair npc fix in the 2nd link because it says its outdated...

 

This crash does not look like it had anything to do with hair. The hair fix I believe was for the 1.5.97 versions of RM. It was most likely merged after that.

 

23 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

well ill still give it a try, cant hurt..

 

Yup. There's also a patch specifically for RaceMenu's overlays I believe. It's on the Nexus as well:

OverlayFixAndOtherFixes-138586-0-9-1743662237

 

Mod id is in red.

[just_dominic]

28 minutes ago, traison said:

 

The chance of you doing anything other than causing a different crash with a botched dll edit is quite tiny. Keep a backup of the dll before modification and you'll be fine. If you make sure the checksum is the same on your dll as in one of the fix offsets I've posted then follow the instructions carefully it'll work.

im not sure how to do a checksum but im sure i can google it and figure it out later if the crashes pop up again!

29 minutes ago, traison said:

Yup. There's also a patch specifically for RaceMenu's overlays I believe. It's on the Nexus as well:

OverlayFixAndOtherFixes-138586-0-9-1743662237

ill give this a preemptive try too.

[traison]

11 minutes ago, just_dominic said:

im not sure how to do a checksum...

 

Only built-in way in Windows I can think of now is in Powershell/Terminal:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.powershell.utility/get-filehash?view=powershell-7.5

 

Get-FileHash path\to\a\file.lol -Algorithm MD5

 

[just_dominic]

2 hours ago, traison said:

 

Only built-in way in Windows I can think of now is in Powershell/Terminal:

https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/powershell/module/microsoft.powershell.utility/get-filehash?view=powershell-7.5

 

Get-FileHash path\to\a\file.lol -Algorithm MD5

 

game was running well for a while and then it crashed when i waited in the wild, checked the log and it was similar crash-2025-08-14-21-50-37.log to the previous ones so i ran the check sum but my checksum is different then what that thread says

2EDBD15187134395A0898D13C8372026 

[traison]

This is a different problem from the previous crash.

 

RaceMenu is having issues with form id 0x1136FFAE "Hired Bodyguard" from "Immersive Wenches.esp" in form id 0x00009BBC "Wilderness". There is something wrong with a BSFlattenedBoneTree node named "NPC Root [Root]" that's attached to this NPC. The issue may have had something to do with meshes\clothes\chef\f\chef.tri.

[traison]

Patch offset for 2edbd15187134395a0898d13c8372026 has been posted in the thread I linked above, where the patching instructions are.