i'm completely lost as to why am crashing

[Darkdigger]

I've installed mods, uninstalled mods, made new saves to test whats going on but i cant figure it out or read whats wrong with my particular crashlog, none of my mods say they require any missing masters from what i can see and im pretty sure my load order is fine, ive never had load order issues before so idk. I can play just fine in skyrim propper but i get to bleakfalls interior or whiterun city interior and i crash. i have no idea whats wrong anymore. this is the first time have had to straight up ask for help with mod issues im just lost, curse you AE upgrade.

I place 2 seperate crashlogs from both locations mentioned just in case there might be more than once reason for the crash, these crashes are from a fresh save. please help.

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crash-2025-06-04-14-11-33.log crash-2025-06-04-14-18-30.log

[LiterallyATurtle]

Dunno if its related at all, but BEES v1.2 isn't needed for your game version. This is backported from 1.6.1130 to versions earlier, and you're on 1.6.1170, so its already included in your current version.

[traison]

These crashes were most likely indirectly caused by RaceMenu. There's an issue with one of the meshes used by form id 0x000B9FD8 "Skeleton". I would start by inspecting the mod providing the skeleton mesh used by this actor's race.

 

Edit: Probably shouldn't be using Animal SOS SE.

Edited June 4, 2025 by traison

[Darkdigger]

first of all, thank you, i did get it working however the issue itself was weird, it was not skeletons as in actor skeletons or meshes but literal loot skeletons as form id 0x000B9FD8 led me to treascorpserigidskeleton, and the real issue mod was the furry age expanded add on mod. only reason for the crashes i could gather is that expanded furry age either fucks with corpse skeleton physics or doubles loot skeletons which i believe leads to crashes but thats just a guess as i barely grasp the basic foundations of coding. 

[traison]

8 hours ago, Darkdigger said:

it was not skeletons as in actor skeletons or meshes but literal loot skeletons

 

The skeletons that spawn dead are also actors, just marked as always dead.

 

8 hours ago, Darkdigger said:

only reason for the crashes i could gather is that expanded furry age either fucks with corpse skeleton physics or doubles loot skeletons which i believe leads to crashes

 

Unlikely to be physics. The mod that was causing the issue used RaceMenu to do something with the following nodes:

1. A NiNode called "NPC Neck [Neck]".
2. A NiNode called "Skeleton".
3. A BSFadeNode called "Skeleton".
4. A BSTriShape called "torso".
5. A NiNode called "NPC R Toe0 [RToe]".

The file it was going through was the skeleton.nif of the Skeleton actor. In theory, removing that file from the mod that's currently providing it, to instead use the vanilla skeleton or one provided by another mod would have been enough to fix the issue.

 

If I had to guess, this is an NiOverride operation of some kind on the "NPC R Toe0 [RToe]" NiNode, and the skeleton mesh was not happy about the changes.