Ripping my hair out - Help

[HyenaCat]

Short story long: I literally bought this PC last year to mod Skyrim and it was so complicated I gave up and started doing the Sims 4 instead. Recently I decided to pick Skyrim back up, and I'm definitely not understanding it still. I'm posting here because people here seem less snarky than the people on Reddit. I got Pandora working, and Bodyslide, and I can play in other people's collections, but they come with stuff I don't want, and don't have stuff I do want. 

The questions I have are

Why does my painfully sorted order (left) not look like the order on the right?

Do I have things in the "required" separator that are not required, and the mod page language just confused me?

Should this load order be flipped upside down so that sse plugin fixes is at the very bottom and address library above it?

Why can't I change the load order anyway? What was the point of even organizing it?

Any help is appreciated. 

Edit: Solved. Simply knock was overwriting papyrus. And I didn’t need it, I thought I did for some reason. 
another file for SkyUI was unnecessary.

I had an outdated version of skyclimb.

it all works now.
I really wish there was more gay content for this though. I have to play as a woman to get all the good stuff. 

Edited May 27, 2025 by HyenaCat
Solved

[traison]

8 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

Why does my painfully sorted order (left) not look like the order on the right?

 

Because one sorts mods, and the other sorts plugins. Typically I'd say you want to have them in the same order, because you don't want the mesh from mod A while having the plugin record from mod B - or maybe you do. This is something you'll have to decide yourself.

 

8 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

Do I have things in the "required" separator that are not required, and the mod page language just confused me?

 

Separators are informal. If you ask me, "required" is not a good title for a separator. Every mod is required, in order for that mod to do the thing you installed it for, no? So I'll answer your question with a question: define "required" in this context.

 

8 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

Should this load order be flipped upside down so that sse plugin fixes is at the very bottom and address library above it?

 

Use the tools in MO2 to (specifically the conflict tab of each mod) to determine which mod should overwrite which, and adjust the mod load order to your liking. Pick the river pebbles from mod A, the trees from mod B and the mudcrabs from mod C.

 

Use xEdit to analyze and sort plugins. Pick your sword stat overhaul from mod A, the lighting overhaul from mod B and the weather from mod C.

 

8 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

Why can't I change the load order anyway? What was the point of even organizing it?

 

Who said you can't change it? They be lying.

 

Edit: Also MO2 is giving you a warning because your game is installed in the Program Files directory. Move your Steam library (or just Skyrim) out of there to avoid future problems.

Edited May 24, 2025 by traison

[HyenaCat]

15 minutes ago, traison said:

 

Because one sorts mods, and the other sorts plugins. Typically I'd say you want to have them in the same order, because you don't want the mesh from mod A while having the plugin record from mod B - or maybe you do. This is something you'll have to decide yourself.

 

 

Separators are informal. If you ask me, "required" is not a good title for a separator. Every mod is required, in order for that mod to do the thing you installed it for, no? So I'll answer your question with a question: define "required" in this context.

 

 

Use the tools in MO2 to (specifically the conflict tab of each mod) to determine which mod should overwrite which, and adjust the mod load order to your liking. Pick the river pebbles from mod A, the trees from mod B and the mudcrabs from mod C.

 

Use xEdit to analyze and sort plugins. Pick your sword stat overhaul from mod A, the lighting overhaul from mod B and the weather from mod C.

 

 

Who said you can't change it? They be lying.

 

Edit: Also MO2 is giving you a warning because your game is installed in the Program Files directory. Move your Steam library (or just Skyrim) out of there to avoid future problems.

Hey thank you! 

Required in this context means that everything I'm using requires these mods. Like everything requires the address library. I made it because the suggestion from youtube "bug fixes and game patches" became too much to look at. Right under is bug fixes and game patches. 

In later sections I have mod A the new trees and under that, mod B the new tree recolor

The mod organizer changes the order back to what is pictured above when I move things. I can manually change the priority and lock each one in place but I just really didn't want to do that for 300+ mods. But I will if I have to I guess.

And I know it's giving me that warning but I don't have another drive, and Steam wouldn't let me move skyrim to my documents. (or maybe Im misunderstanding that too)

 

[traison]

2 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

The mod organizer changes the order back to what is pictured above when I move things.

 

That is because the game is in the Program Files directory. You can't write to that directory. It's by design.

 

2 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

And I know it's giving me that warning but I don't have another drive...

 

People typically use something like C:\Games\Steam.

 

3 minutes ago, HyenaCat said:

...and Steam wouldn't let me move skyrim to my documents.

 

Which is great because with OneDrive active (and stealing your files) since the launch of Windows 10, you really don't want to put anything in your Documents folder, or your user profile for that matter.

[HyenaCat]

I’ve just deleted and uninstalled everything so that I can put steam in a different folder. It doesn’t give you the option to move it to another space on the same drive. 

[traison]

2 hours ago, HyenaCat said:

It doesn’t give you the option to move it to another space on the same drive.

 

Oh, that's unfortunate. Fairly certain it used to, but then again, I've never used it like that. Only used it when I moved Skyrim to an SSD back in the day.