yoyoman69 Posted July 7, 2025 Posted July 7, 2025 Is there any chance for this mod, but without the events, art, etc? Just basic futa pregnancy functionality, plus maybe laws
Phaze Star Posted July 7, 2025 Author Posted July 7, 2025 30 minutes ago, yoyoman69 said: Is there any chance for this mod, but without the events, art, etc? Just basic futa pregnancy functionality, plus maybe laws Not for a long time if ever
gooniwoo Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 I've read through the test but I'm clearly a dummy because I cannot figure out how to get dragons playing as Danny. I started playing her at 13 (or whatever it was when the decision popped up) with her brother still alive in my adventurer camp. Went on to do various things, passing the time. Got wyverns, got converted to hermilia (I think? Whatever the event did convert me to at any rate) Even took over Dragonstone eventually, ending my adventuring career. But I feel like I need some step-by-step guide on how to get the actual dragons as Danny as I believe it's been mentioned it's an event that will pop up. I've not seen it though. I eventually died of old age What am I doing wrong?
Phaze Star Posted July 8, 2025 Author Posted July 8, 2025 5 minutes ago, gooniwoo said: guide on how to get the actual dragons as Danny Dragons for Danny are not changed by me. Ever since AGOT made her Landless I have found it is far harder to actually unlock her Dragons and most of the time it is either Visareys or Aegon who hatch them (If at all, lots of times no one does).
gooniwoo Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 Hmm, I see. Might have to just steal them at the start as Danny then. Could be that you need 16k troops as well. I'll fiddle with it some. Maybe check that ruleset for canon dragons too while I'm at it. Thanks for the mod though, Phaze! Love it, and the rest of your work too! Looking forwards to your next updates / mods! 2
OniOokami Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 13 hours ago, gooniwoo said: But I feel like I need some step-by-step guide on how to get the actual dragons as Danny as I believe it's been mentioned it's an event that will pop up. I've not seen it though. I eventually died of old age I've dug into the AGOT scripts something fierce to figure out this particular problem that's akin to pulling teeth. There are a mess of hyper specific requirements thanks to the AGOT mod itself. The only issue created by Phaze's mod is the force switch of leadership of the Targaryen Exiles from Viserys to Danny. This switch causes the Targaryen Exiles' custom script to break, while I'm not *entirely* sure on the why I assume it's due to the camp purpose switching to neutral as the custom content requires them to be legitimists. (If the leadership passes naturally from Viserys dying however, there is no issue and their custom content continues. So in the future if Phaze feels like tweaking this, killing Viserys outright with a death trigger to transfer the leadership could work. Let's face it he's destiny to die anyway. But I'm not entirely sure.) But to my knowledge the requirements for triggering the event are as follows: 1. Camp must be Legitimists and have used the "Request Legitimist Support." interaction. 2. Illyrio Mopatis *must be alive*. It's entirely possible he just bites it for some reason or other and you're kinda screwed. 3. You have to be friends (Or on good terms?) with Illyrio, amusingly this is much harder to do as Viserys than it is with Danny. I assume the AI just magics this event firing. 4. You need a total troop limit of 16k. Doesn't matter who or what, 16k soldiers. 5. You need to have a **bad** relationship with whoever owns the Iron Throne title (As in your character dislikes them). This one is some bull but yes it's a requirement for the event to fire. I've personally tested this with debug tools. 6. You cannot have the game rule that makes Aegon an open Blackfyre. Why, no clue, but apparently they felt that game setting should lock Danny out of her dragons. Provided every other requirement is in place, the moment you hit 16k soldiers there's an event trigger that fires and within about a year of hitting all the requirements Illyrio will approach you with the dragon eggs. It's possible to get a false positive on this event as well btw. Because they wanted to make this a massive pain in the ass for some reason or other. If you fulfill some requirements but not all, it's possible for some random spawned NPC to give you three eggs which are not the canon eggs. Viserys can trigger this, so can Danny I believe, and it's possible to hatch them as Viserys by sacrificing Danny but they won't result in her canon dragons. Also even if you've done all of this correctly, Illyrio gives you the correct eggs, you're playing as Danny with the custom script still active it can still fail. Because screw you for some reason or other. There's some set probability of success but you only need Danny's blood and the canon dragon eggs to get her 3 dragons. If you want to save scum this (save scum this because jumping through all these hoops is absurd) save right before you get 16k soldiers as that's the requirement you have the most control over. There maybe more criteria I'm unaware of to guarantee this mess of stipulations, but this the most I've been able to figure out bashing my head into the wall just attempting to have a dragon power trip with a futa danny. 2
Phaze Star Posted July 8, 2025 Author Posted July 8, 2025 27 minutes ago, OniOokami said: figure out this particular problem that's akin to pulling teeth. Yeah that looks rough. I think it is like this because we are still in placeholder territory until Danny's real story content gets added with a later start date such as War of the Five Kings. 28 minutes ago, OniOokami said: So in the future if Phaze feels like tweaking this Since you looked through the code, you must have seen the section where I specifically pass the story content from Brother to Sister? Are you saying my code does not work? IYou can set your camp to legitimists as soon as you take over the exile camp as well. I do not want to kill off Viserys which is why I avoided that method. 30 minutes ago, OniOokami said: You have to be friends (Or on good terms?) with Illyrio, This one is crazy though. As far as I am aware, there are no scripted events for either Targaryen to befriend Illyrio?
OniOokami Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 24 minutes ago, Phaze Star said: Since you looked through the code, you must have seen the section where I specifically pass the story content from Brother to Sister? Are you saying my code does not work? IYou can set your camp to legitimists as soon as you take over the exile camp as well. I do not want to kill off Viserys which is why I avoided that method. If this is long winded or pedantic I'm sorry, I just try to be as through as I can when providing input. This mod is literally the only reason I had any remote interest in playing with the AGOT mod to begin with and your mods have been pretty much the only interesting nsfw CK3 mods to fiddle with imo. I should state when it comes to looking at code I'm basically a novice and it's more of a monkey see, monkey do situation. It's possible this is something on my end due to some mod incompatibility so I'll rip out everything from my playlist which isn't included in yours for the Phaze Body AGOT setup which I'd assume is more or less the go-to setup for your AGOT focused content. I'll do some testing in a bit and determine that later. In regards to the leadership transfer I can provide some screenshots of at least the front end of things. So normally when you start as the Exiles you get the event pop up "The Exiles have custom content do you wish to do this yes or no?" if you select yes the custom content quest/script line fires and you're allowed to opt out at anytime with the "End Special Targaryen Exile Content." decision. Switching your camp to any purpose outside legitimist *or* becoming landed in anyway also stops this content. Now if for whatever reason Viserys bites it before the transfer of leadership to Danny happens (for example here I simply used the Advanced Cheat Menu mod to do so.) The Exile Content continues. As you can see, Danny now leads the Exiles, the camp is still Legitimists and the Decision to End their special Content remains. Meaning their custom content is still active. Now when this event fires you're given the chance to play as Danny as leadership is transferred over, but something about this transfer breaks their custom content. Now as Danny leading the Exiles, their camp purpose is reverted to the default Wanderers and the "End Special Targaryen Exile Content" decision is no longer available. This means that custom content is simply no longer accessible. Changing the camp purpose back to Legitimist doesn't fix this either. The team behind the AGOT were really adamant about following everything to the letter perfectly to maintain this custom content. As far as the why or how, no clue I just know what I can see. This isn't really on you. From what I can tell the Exiles custom content is just an absolute mess triggers and variables to make the entire thing a headache before even introducing your mod. 1 hour ago, Phaze Star said: This one is crazy though. As far as I am aware, there are no scripted events for either Targaryen to befriend Illyrio? I could be wrong about this as I said I can only understand so much of what I'm looking at in regards to back end. There isn't a scripted event to befriend Illyrio at all, and this could be me simply confusing the code within the targaryen invasion script suggesting you have to have a bad opinion of the Iron Throne ruler. Honestly wish I could be more helpful in regards to the exact "why" of things here. Fiddling with this entire thing and just derping about with your mod alongside AGOT got me thinking of attempting to slap together something myself involving the north of the wall 1
Phaze Star Posted July 8, 2025 Author Posted July 8, 2025 40 minutes ago, OniOokami said: Honestly wish I could be more helpful No this has been great 👍, I was under the impression my transfer had been made seamless but I did not realise I was missing the decision. I am not sure what else I can do to enable it though as I already transfer what CK3 calls a "Story Cycle" to Daenerys when swapping characters. Maybe there is some other trigger I also need to give her but I cam unsure what or where. 1
OniOokami Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 21 minutes ago, OniOokami said: It's possible this is something on my end due to some mod incompatibility so I'll rip out everything from my playlist which isn't included in yours for the Phaze Body AGOT setup which I'd assume is more or less the go-to setup for your AGOT focused content. I'll do some testing in a bit and determine that later. Went ahead and tested that load order, which is this one you've provided in the Phaze Body mod page: Unfortunately ya, the issue persists. I sat around waiting for 13 years as Hermilla to wait for the event to pop to see if the "End Special Targaryen Exile Content" decision remained when switching to Danny and it wasn't there. Did the same with Viserys, same thing. If I start the game with Hermilla then have Viserys killed so Danny inherits the camp and switch to Danny the decision remains meaning their quest line is still active. If I start as Viserys and get him killed so Danny inherits the camp it is also still active. So ya, the AGOT script for the Exiles just doesn't like the event that transfers the camp to Danny for whatever reason 1
Phaze Star Posted July 8, 2025 Author Posted July 8, 2025 23 minutes ago, OniOokami said: So ya, the AGOT script for the Exiles just doesn't like the event that transfers the camp to Danny for whatever reason I wish I knew what I was missing
OniOokami Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 20 minutes ago, Phaze Star said: No this has been great 👍, I was under the impression my transfer had been made seamless but I did not realise I was missing the decision. I am not sure what else I can do to enable it though as I already transfer what CK3 calls a "Story Cycle" to Daenerys when swapping characters. Maybe there is some other trigger I also need to give her but I cam unsure what or where. I'm going to be blunt and just state my opinion here. Honestly? I would just hijack the story/event thread altogether instead of attempting to weave your code alongside the AGOT code. For example the line of events you have setup for Hermilla to receive her dragon egg and then hatch it just works. There's no hyper specific conditions, you don't have to rely on outside variables you have no control over. You don't have to worry if X likes/hates you and if Y has happened. Yours is just a straight forward time based trigger along with a decision. If there's a simple solution I'm just unaware of due to my inexperience that's one thing. But I honestly think it'd be less of a headache overall for those playing the mod if you implemented a similar event trigger for Danny where llyrio (Or rather whoever is holding the Beryl, Cream and Obsidian eggs from Dreamfyre) approaches you with them after she hits 16 and your events trigger. Definitely would mean more work on your end, but just my opinion. Your events just work without needless bs. While yes, the AGOT mod's Targaryen Exile content culminates with a massive invasion against the Iron Throne where a bunch of the Targaryen Loyalist houses instantly ally you. You don't need them as Danny if you have the dragons. Especially don't need them when your mod is in play. CK3's AI doesn't really handle warfare well to begin with and with AGOT it just becomes even more massive Levy bloat with little to no MAAs. So with 16k MAAs, 3 dragons and a claim on the entire empire you'll end up chewing through the 100k levies without a bunch of allies dogpiling in. Once again, this is just with the base MAAs in play (We're not even going to address the absolute calamity Lust Starved Berserkers cause to levy heavy armies). 2
Phaze Star Posted July 8, 2025 Author Posted July 8, 2025 4 minutes ago, OniOokami said: I would just hijack the story/event thread altogether AGOT is an impressive mod, where possible I would like to respect the developer's vision. It also means I don't have to update the event everytime AGOT updates. I'll have to look into it.
DonClop Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Phaze Star said: No this has been great 👍, I was under the impression my transfer had been made seamless but I did not realise I was missing the decision. I am not sure what else I can do to enable it though as I already transfer what CK3 calls a "Story Cycle" to Daenerys when swapping characters. Maybe there is some other trigger I also need to give her but I cam unsure what or where. Well, it seems that in the words of the classics, kill the boy Phaze Star, let the Futa take the lead xD. 2
OniOokami Posted July 8, 2025 Posted July 8, 2025 2 hours ago, Phaze Star said: AGOT is an impressive mod, where possible I would like to respect the developer's vision. It also means I don't have to update the event everytime AGOT updates. I'll have to look into it. Totally understandable and respectable. 3 hours ago, Phaze Star said: I already transfer what CK3 calls a "Story Cycle" to Daenerys when swapping characters. Maybe there is some other trigger I also need to give her but I cam unsure what or where. Also this tid bit helped me figure out *something* in regards to finding a solution here. I looked into Story cycle modding then cross referenced your code with the AGOT team's code for the Exiles and ya, it should work as far as I can tell. Transfer the exile story from Viserys to Danny, makes sense. So I did some fiddling and got it to work in a bizarre way in which I don't understand nor can explain. So if futa_danny_events.0002 triggers and the leadership of the Exiles is transferred to Danny *before* futa_danny_events.0001 triggers and you're allowed to play as her, it won't break the AGOT Exiles custom content. Why this is exactly I have no fuggin clue. Also this only works *if* you're playing as Viserys to begin with. I tried it while starting as Hermilla and no dice. I went ahead and triggered futa_danny_events.0002 and manually switched to Danny without the first event and it didn't work either. Did some other testing just to be sure. You can start as anyone, then manually switch to Viserys and their special content is still active. You can start as anyone, kill Viserys, then manually switch to Danny and it's still active. You can also start as anyone, kill Viserys, then trigger futa_danny_events.0001 then futa_danny_events.0002 and it's still active. As far as I can tell the simplest fix would be just offing Viserys and allowing CK3's default title inheritance to play out, then later have your events fire when Danny hits the correct age. Keeping him alive and swapping leadership to Danny is where it gets tricky and has something to do with transferring leadership to her *before* playing as her. It maybe possible it's due to the traits added, the mma added or the hook into the later Danny events, I'm not sure. 3
Phaze Star Posted July 8, 2025 Author Posted July 8, 2025 1 hour ago, OniOokami said: So if futa_danny_events.0002 triggers and the leadership of the Exiles is transferred to Danny *before* futa_danny_events.0001 triggers and you're allowed to play as her, This is so confusing. Fantastic investigating on your part though. Not sure what I can do with this if it only works when already playing as Targaryens anyway. 🤔
Void2019 Posted July 9, 2025 Posted July 9, 2025 got it to work again it was the sub mod the long dark for some reason it wont load with it 1
123abcde2 Posted July 9, 2025 Posted July 9, 2025 Currently on another Targaryen Exiles run, and I would also recommend just killing off Viserys when Dany's event fires at 12. When it fires, you could maybe script an event where Viserys feels threatened by her growing "power". Dany's guardian (whose name currently escapes me), whom you introduced, could help "protect" Dany from Viserys' wrath, and he dies in the scuffle. It might even help to have this event fire off earlier, as the legitimist troops you gather through negotiating with rulers still disappear when the TE's ownership switches to Dany. I did some cheating on my end to spawn in some soldiers and get as close to 16k troops as possible by the time she turned 16, but now that just means the wyvern event is scheduled to fire AFTER I already got the Illyrio event and am locked into invading Westeros within a year. Maybe a special event could fire that gives Dany some of the special futa soldiers Hermilia initially spawns with? I just don't want to be stuck in Essos for years after fAegon has already invaded and conquered the Iron Throne. 1
Phaze Star Posted July 9, 2025 Author Posted July 9, 2025 28 minutes ago, 123abcde2 said: I just don't want to be stuck in Essos for years after fAegon This is partially unavoidable due to ages and CK3 logic. In the actual series, Daenerys takes agency and makes marriage aliances for herself relatively young, but CK3 cannot do that. Meanwhile, the other Dragons are older than she is and thus can both do story content and invasions. Until AGOT adds her book storyline, she is ironically very disadvantaged. I don't want to kill Viserys. He is one of the last targs and CK3 is all about dynamic alternate histories. One of my funs - with Futa AGOT - was Viserys becoming Father of Dragons, then swapping to Danny with my event who was bonded to one of his spear Dragons. That was pretty damn cool, plus I got Futa Wyverns afer that. Your senario about how Viserys might die off is not bad though. I just wish the story transfered cleanly but I am starting to think it is impossible due to how it was coded...
OniOokami Posted July 10, 2025 Posted July 10, 2025 (edited) 3 hours ago, Phaze Star said: Your senario about how Viserys might die off is not bad though. I just wish the story transfered cleanly but I am starting to think it is impossible due to how it was coded... Could be something of a coin flip event which the Targaryen's are already famous for. Viserys *does* break down mentally over time. I think the specific event I'm thinking of related to AGOT+ I'm not sure, but his personality is shifted due to the stress of his predicament. 4 hours ago, 123abcde2 said: When it fires, you could maybe script an event where Viserys feels threatened by her growing "power". Dany's guardian (whose name currently escapes me), whom you introduced, could help "protect" Dany from Viserys' wrath, and he dies in the scuffle. Something like this would definitely be in character. But you can also spin it to allow more alternate histories. For example some multiple routes. "Good" being when the event triggers Viserys has the choice to accept Dany's growing power and resolving things peacefully, could even write in a redemption arc for him outright. Have this branch into something like: A: Viserys remains the primary heir but takes vows or something. So eventually yes Danny and her children will inherit the throne meaning she's free to marry (or do typical futa things whatever) without Viserys being involved. B: Viserys stands down completely, renouncing his claims. Aims to completely redeem himself, becomes a perfect and virtuous knight or somethin. (Maybe have this swing into him eventually becoming a femboi because it could be similar to Tomas and the Inquisitor. That could be worth a laugh.) Have the "bad" choice. Where Viserys isn't going to tolerate Danny growing in power threatening to overthrow him as heir to the throne. This resulting in him getting in a fight with either Ser William or Merisha which could branch off into: A: Viserys due to his impatient and arrogant nature gets himself killed. Resolving with Danny simply inheriting everything and her events firing off there after. B: Viserys realizes he's out gunned, retreats and vows vengeance. Effectively transferring the Exlies camp to Danny but creating his own adventure camp with those loyal to him and not Danny. This could also result in him forsaking The Seven and converting to either Vilecore or Carldenism because both have an absolute hatred for futas. Viserys could have his own Inquisitor-esque route with this attempting to stop the coming storm that is Danny, her dragons and her Wyverns. Lastly just have a choice along the lines of "Ehhhh lets just see how things develop.". Resulting in the absolute dice roll of the situation. Might prevent Danny from accessing things later but hey you pressed the random button so no complaints. Like ya the simple answer is just to whack'em so the events fire properly but I can understand wanting more possibilities for characters. CK3 is a game where "Wait, why is England now Italian? Also Muslim???" can be said and that's normal. Edited July 10, 2025 by OniOokami 2
Phaze Star Posted July 10, 2025 Author Posted July 10, 2025 6 hours ago, OniOokami said: but I can understand wanting more possibilities for characters. Yep and this is a fun idea as well, but loops back to the transfer of the story not working without death 🫡
OniOokami Posted July 10, 2025 Posted July 10, 2025 5 hours ago, Phaze Star said: Yep and this is a fun idea as well, but loops back to the transfer of the story not working without death 🫡 Well some quirks for consideration. We've already established if Viserys dies, your events for Danny play out along with maintaining AGOT's special content for them. Now as previously stated the event script you wrote for transferring the story cycle does work ( futa_danny_events.0002 ), if you switch to control of Danny after this event both AGOTs content and yours function alongside each other. With this in mind I went ahead and started a new game as the Exiles and used debug to play that event. Then with debug I used the Laamp command on Viserys to force the creation of a new adventurer camp, manually switched player control to Danny and yup, the AGOT special content is still active. So this means both branches I suggested for the "Bad" route should work in theory. Either Viserys dies, or splits off into his own camp allowing the AGOT content to pass on to Danny. As for the "Good" routes, the caveat with Viserys remaining in power would mean playing as Viserys and not Danny thus keeping the AGOT content active but barred from interacting with Dannys content from this mod. Ideally you would eventually play as Danny or a descendent of Danny once Viserys has passed thus *eventually* having access to this mods content for her while also allowing the AGOT content to play out. A possible solution to integrating both is having a specific decision linked to the Dragon Cock trait. Say for instance, Viserys remained in power with Danny or her children resulting as his primary heir, he accesses the AGOT content and invades The Iron Throne. Eventually Viserys passes due to whatever reason and the natural inheritance plays out. Now Danny or a child that has inherited her unique trait has access to some "Study your Dragon Physiology." decision once they reach adulthood. Have this decision event check if the previous event for starting the wyvern events has fired ( futa_danny_events.0003 ) if not, then it fires it's own event along the lines of : "Now that I'm an adult and more influential as (Queen/Camp Leader/whatever) it's time for me to finally answer a question that's plagued me since I've been born.". Have this result in an event line where you ask your court/camp physician (Or Maester in AGOT's case) about the Dragon Cock. They say "Oh ya, that is weird. Maybe we can find a specialist?" and then sometime later Aphron appears as the specialist, and then the wyvern events go from there. But as for the other "Good" route I suggested where Viserys becomes a knight or something, that one is trickier because it's another version of the current issue with transferring the story. A way to go about this could actually be similar to the "Bad" route where Viserys just makes his own camp. Something along the lines of Viserys needs time to figure himself out without the pressure or obsession over his claim to the throne. So he sets out on his own path to "find" himself or whatever, resulting in transferring the story cycle to Danny along with the Exiles camp. Have the option to continue as Visery to do the soul searching thing, or play as Danny now that she's in play. Sometime later after Viserys does whatever specific events this soul searching entails have the option to serve as Danny's knight. If you picked Danny, you'd have access to this mods content along with AGOT's. If you stuck with Viserys (in theory) the AI in control of Danny can still utilize the AGOT content in the background and then you can access her content from this mod when you switch to play as her. Due to fiddling around with debug and the events I *believe* these are possible solutions, but of course it means a lot more work/event writing. Ofc the exact narrative of this is whatever you want and I'm just brainstorming ways to tackle the story transfer issue. Also I have **absolutely** no clue if any of this would work if you started as any other character outside Viserys himself. 2
Phaze Star Posted July 10, 2025 Author Posted July 10, 2025 55 minutes ago, OniOokami said: no clue if any of this would work if you started as any other character outside Viserys himself. This is the current issue I am trying to solve. I need to make it work for any start not just as Viserys.
Exodias Posted July 13, 2025 Posted July 13, 2025 Hey Phaze I have a real fast question. the interaction to force a captured prisoner to breed with the wyverns and gain another wyvern MAA is that specifically for the wyvernling MAA or is that for the Dragon units?
Phaze Star Posted July 13, 2025 Author Posted July 13, 2025 15 minutes ago, Exodias said: Hey Phaze I have a real fast question. the interaction to force a captured prisoner to breed with the wyverns and gain another wyvern MAA is that specifically for the wyvernling MAA or is that for the Dragon units? There are no Dragon Units. So yes, it is for the Wyverns.
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