Guest Posted January 31, 2025 Posted January 31, 2025 So, I know the WW attractiveness feature will provide moodlets/buffs during Sex, which is really cool! But I've also seen a banana moodlet with my Sims, where one had it and the other didn't (both are male), and I've read of a strawberry moodlet, too (apparently related to vaginas but I don't play with female Sims lol). These don't seem to be related to the attraciveness stuff (both of my Sims are set to be attracted to men and masculine Sims, and not attracted to women and feminine Sims but only one got the moodlet), so I was wondering what triggers this moodlet. Is it basically just random chance, or is there some kind of interaction or feature I haven't connected? I tried searching but couldn't find any explanations, just other people asking about the moodlets too.
PeterMcPhallus Posted February 5, 2025 Posted February 5, 2025 If you hover your mouse cursor over the moodlet, a tooltip will appear that explains it. In a nutshell, bananas and strawberries are colorful metaphors for male and female genitalia. Your sim has been craving whatever "fruit" their partner is now giving them, or in plain terms, you sim is happily getting their sexual desires satisfied. As for what it does from a game mechanics standpoint, I'm not sure. It probably boosts Flirty or improves sex performance or something. There's another moodlet that has a food icon (an eggplant for some reason) for "morning wood" (or "morning dew" for females) that your sim will get after waking from an erotic dream. 2
Guest Posted February 5, 2025 Posted February 5, 2025 28 minutes ago, PeterMcPhallus said: If you hover your mouse cursor over the moodlet, a tooltip will appear that explains it. In a nutshell, bananas and strawberries are colorful metaphors for male and female genitalia. Your sim has been craving whatever "fruit" their partner is now giving them, or in plain terms, you sim is happily getting their sexual desires satisfied. As for what it does from a game mechanics standpoint, I'm not sure. It probably boosts Flirty or improves sex performance or something. There's another moodlet that has a food icon (an eggplant for some reason) for "morning wood" (or "morning dew" for females) that your sim will get after waking from an erotic dream. I did hover over it and understood it was euphemistic, but I guess I was just wondering why my Sim got it with no other indication of a reason, I guess I just figured I must have missed something, like maybe I triggered it somehow.
PeterMcPhallus Posted February 5, 2025 Posted February 5, 2025 A lot of this is educated guesswork on my part, so take it with a grain of salt. I think there are several factors that go into it on the back end, mainly the hidden 'Desire' value, that gets your sims thinking about sex, which in turn triggers those moodlets when they finally start having the sex. Various combinations of Relationship bits and Sentiments (Lovers, Perceived as Attractive, Smitten, etc.), both BG and WW traits (Romantic, Sexually Alluring), and Moods (Flirty, Confident, etc.) can trigger certain moodlets during sex. Even your sims' partner's body type sliders in CAS can trigger other unique moodlets during sex, the flavor text of which refers to muscle mass, breast size, etc. There are also orgasm-related moodlets (Orgasmic, Pleased To Please) which only seem to be triggered by the female. Curiously, the male orgasm seems to be left up to the Animation author to show, and doesn't appear to have it's own moodlet(s). Many of these factors, together with a random number modifier, gives a chance to earn your sim the grand jackpot Sentiment known as "Transcendental Sexual Experience". Turbodriver put a LOT of thought and time into this thing, and is probably the only one who could definitively tell you what plus what triggers which. Personally, I'd rather not know how the sausage is made, no pun intended. 1
Guest Posted February 5, 2025 Posted February 5, 2025 31 minutes ago, PeterMcPhallus said: A lot of this is educated guesswork on my part, so take it with a grain of salt. I think there are several factors that go into it on the back end, mainly the hidden 'Desire' value, that gets your sims thinking about sex, which in turn triggers those moodlets when they finally start having the sex. Various combinations of Relationship bits and Sentiments (Lovers, Perceived as Attractive, Smitten, etc.), both BG and WW traits (Romantic, Sexually Alluring), and Moods (Flirty, Confident, etc.) can trigger certain moodlets during sex. Even your sims' partner's body type sliders in CAS can trigger other unique moodlets during sex, the flavor text of which refers to muscle mass, breast size, etc. There are also orgasm-related moodlets (Orgasmic, Pleased To Please) which only seem to be triggered by the female. Curiously, the male orgasm seems to be left up to the Animation author to show, and doesn't appear to have it's own moodlet(s). Many of these factors, together with a random number modifier, gives a chance to earn your sim the grand jackpot Sentiment known as "Transcendental Sexual Experience". Turbodriver put a LOT of thought and time into this thing, and is probably the only one who could definitively tell you what plus what triggers which. Personally, I'd rather not know how the sausage is made, no pun intended. That makes a lot of sense. I'll be honest, I only started using WW again in October after several years of not having used it, and lots of these features were not in place back then. I'm curious by nature so I like pulling the puzzle pieces apart, so to speak. But WW is really amazing; the amount of depth it has continues to surprise and fascinate me. Also I have a habit of overthinking things and that's likely what I was doing with this moodlet lmao. I appreciate you responding to me!
GalieN Posted February 7, 2025 Posted February 7, 2025 (edited) This is related to the length and width of the partner’s dick. I’ve tested it many times - if sim is satisfied with the partner’s dick size, the banana appears, but if the partner’s size doesn’t satisfy them, there’s no moodlet. Try setting a specific dick size for one Sim and then adjusting the other Sim’s preferences to match that size. As for the strawberry moodlet, I’m not sure - I couldn’t figure it out. Edited February 7, 2025 by GalieN 1
Guest Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 (edited) On 2/7/2025 at 2:30 AM, GalieN said: This is related to the length and width of the partner’s dick. I’ve tested it many times - if sim is satisfied with the partner’s dick size, the banana appears, but if the partner’s size doesn’t satisfy them, there’s no moodlet. Try setting a specific dick size for one Sim and then adjusting the other Sim’s preferences to match that size. As for the strawberry moodlet, I’m not sure - I couldn’t figure it out. So I'm confused lol. I don't have the penis size manipulation switch enabled, because I use Simdulgence's penises, which have preset sizes. And also I have no idea how to adjust penis size preferences? It's not in the attraction settings. Unless I need the size manipulation switch turned on? FWIW one of them is using Simdulgence's "Large" model, the other the "Frank" exclusive Patreon model which is actually larger than the Large, but, come to think of it, I've seen the moodlet only on this Sim (meaning, the one getting the "Large") so it's possible WW's tuning is recognizing the "Large" as large enough for the moodlet but not the other one. Definitely going to have to do some more investigating on this issue, but you've helped me a lot! Thanks! ETA: So, with GalieN's helpful info above, I decided to test my theory that I both needed the "penis size manipulation switch" enabled to adjust penis attractiveness preferenecs for Sims (this was true), and that it recognizes Simduldgence's penises by default anyway but not the exclusive models. So I gave both my Sims the "Large", just adjusted one to be a bit bigger even still... Neither got the moodlet that time. I'm thinking turning on the manipulation switch somehow broke it working for the large one, because now it's set to the default size for the model? Not sure. But then I set them to the Medium and increased the size significantly for both to simulate using a larger one, and now they're both getting the moodlet consistently! So at least it's working now lol. Edited February 8, 2025 by FutureGhost3888 tested some stuff
PeterMcPhallus Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 There are two ways to modify penis size, one is by using CAS bottom outfit items, and/or body replacement overlays with WW's body part replacements function, and then there is the "Adjust Penis Dimensions" function (if you're unsure which is which, you cannot access Change Body Parts while a sex animation is running , but Adjust Penis Dimensions can be modified in real time during a sex animation). I think the latter affects the Attractiveness subroutine, while the former is purely cosmetic. Try this; give Sim1 a monster cock overlay in CAS, and choose the same with WW's Change Body Parts, but then go into Wicked > Personalization > Adjust Penis Dimensions and set both Length and Girth to 90% Below Normal Size and see what happens. It may still appear huge because of the CAS overlay/replacement, but in terms of game mechanics I'll bet it's going to be treated like a micro-pecker when calculating Attractiveness. As far as the Banana moodlet goes, I think it's fair to say that Attractiveness (which includes Penis Size Preference) might factor into it. But the theory that Penis Size Preference is the sole factor doesn't bear out because of one thing; The corresponding Strawberry moodlet. There are no Vagina Preference settings in Attractiveness, and the two moodlets are mirror images of one another, even down to the flavor text (much like Morning Wood/Morning Dew), it is therefore reasonable to assume they are triggered by a similar combination of factors. For example, if you make Sim1 fat, bald, and hairy with lots of tattoos and bad teeth (*cough* skin tone, *cough*), and then adjust Sim2's Attractiveness settings so that they dislike all those things, this throws a bunch of negative modifiers on the Desire value, and thus the chances of Sim2 agreeing to have sex with Sim1 in the first place. All the flirting in the world won't raise the Desire value above a certain point, because of all the negative modifiers. Now, if you flag Sim2 to "Always Accept Sex" even while having a low Desire value, that might get you a negative sexual experience, and the corresponding post-coital moodlet(s). Never tried it, so YMMV. I'm gonna pull some numbers out of thin air here to illustrate my point, so bear with me. Let's say the fat, bald, etc. all combined gives Sim1 a combined -8 Attractiveness factor relative to Sim2's preferences, but set his penis length and girth to say... 80% Above Normal, and then set Sim2 to like big dicks, that gives you a +2 for a net Attractiveness of -6. But you're still in the minuses. Now make a Sim3 who likes fat, bald, tattooed, bad teeth, etc., but prefers a small dick, Sim1's net Attractiveness value relative to Sim3 would be +6, because everything else is clicking except the penis size. Now get the Desire level up as high as you can before making your move, and If Sim3 gets that Banana moodlet, then I'm right. Try it more than once to be certain, but it only needs to appear one time. This also suggests there may also be a hidden "Sexual Satisfaction" value somewhere in there too, because I can't think of another way the "Generous Lover/Selfish Lover" traits would work, or for that matter how you you'd get the "Transcendental Sexual Experience" sentiment. But even if that's true, this hypothetical Sexual Satisfaction value is still an equation using Desire as it's base, and then applying all these other modifiers to it. In that case, Penis Dimensions to Penis Size Preference may be a sole modifier in that equation, or it may just a variable in overall Attractiveness calculation and nothing more. Either way, it's still just one variable among many. As always, if it turns out that I'm wrong, I'll stand corrected. 1
GalieN Posted February 8, 2025 Posted February 8, 2025 (edited) First, you need to enable WW penis sizes, then size preferences will be added to the likes. For me, the banana moodlet always triggers on my favorite penis size. Of course, I don’t deny that there are additional parameters affecting this moodlet, but the favorite penis size gives a 100% chance of the banana moodlet appearing As for the strawberry moodlet, it's a real mystery because WW has a cheat that allows you to make a Sim incredibly attractive to all Sims, yet the strawberry moodlet still doesn't appear. So, I doubt that the banana and strawberry moodlets affect other preferences. Based on this super attractiveness cheat, these moodlets seem to be influenced only by genitalia I tested making a male Sim super attractive to another Sim, but the second Sim didn’t have the first Sim’s penis size in their preferences—so the banana moodlet didn’t appear, even though the second Sim considers the first one super attractive Edited February 8, 2025 by GalieN
PeterMcPhallus Posted February 9, 2025 Posted February 9, 2025 22 minutes ago, GalieN said: First, you need to enable WW penis sizes, then size preferences will be added to the likes. For me, the banana moodlet always triggers on my favorite penis size. Of course, I don’t deny that there are additional parameters affecting this moodlet, but the favorite penis size gives a 100% chance of the banana moodlet appearing As for the strawberry moodlet, it's a real mystery because WW has a cheat that allows you to make a Sim incredibly attractive to all Sims, yet the strawberry moodlet still doesn't appear. So, I doubt that the banana and strawberry moodlets affect other preferences. Based on this super attractiveness cheat, these moodlets seem to be influenced only by genitalia Honestly, I haven't done much experimenting, and I haven't messed with the Attractiveness settings overly much. The Attractiveness is turned on, but everything is just set to defaults. With the exception of a couple of special sims I made for specific purposes, all my played sims find one another at least "Very Attractive". And yes, that's probably because I use the Attractiveness Tuner cheat on many of my sims. I change body parts sometimes, but I don't mess with Penis Length/Girth anymore (I used to fool around with this, but I stopped changing it because of bad animation clipping). So if the defaults are that all penises are average size, and all sims prefer average-sized penises, then that box will get checked every time. I get both the Banana and Strawberry moodlets all the time, like almost every single time. Often enough in fact, that I'm more likely to notice when they don't get it, than when they do. My omnisexual female sims get the Banana when they're with a guy and the Strawberry when with girl (both girls will get the Strawberry, usually), and I've even had them get both at once when doing an MFF threeway. I always thought it was because I am in the habit of flirting up Desire as high as possible before initiating sex, trying to score that elusive Transcendental sentiment. 39 minutes ago, GalieN said: I tested making a male Sim super attractive to another Sim, but the second Sim didn’t have the first Sim’s penis size in their preferences—so the banana moodlet didn’t appear, even though the second Sim considers the first one super attractive If I was correct, it would have. So based on that, maybe I'm wrong. How many times did you try it? How high did you flirt up Desire beforehand? Now I know Desire is a hidden value, but there are nevertheless clues to give you a good guess where it is... Using the same scenario you just described, try jacking up Desire as high as you can manage first, and see if that makes any difference. 2
GalieN Posted February 9, 2025 Posted February 9, 2025 (edited) 1 hour ago, PeterMcPhallus said: Honestly, I haven't done much experimenting, and I haven't messed with the Attractiveness settings overly much. The Attractiveness is turned on, but everything is just set to defaults. With the exception of a couple of special sims I made for specific purposes, all my played sims find one another at least "Very Attractive". And yes, that's probably because I use the Attractiveness Tuner cheat on many of my sims. I change body parts sometimes, but I don't mess with Penis Length/Girth anymore (I used to fool around with this, but I stopped changing it because of bad animation clipping). So if the defaults are that all penises are average size, and all sims prefer average-sized penises, then that box will get checked every time. I get both the Banana and Strawberry moodlets all the time, like almost every single time. Often enough in fact, that I'm more likely to notice when they don't get it, than when they do. My omnisexual female sims get the Banana when they're with a guy and the Strawberry when with girl (both girls will get the Strawberry, usually), and I've even had them get both at once when doing an MFF threeway. I always thought it was because I am in the habit of flirting up Desire as high as possible before initiating sex, trying to score that elusive Transcendental sentiment. If I was correct, it would have. So based on that, maybe I'm wrong. How many times did you try it? How high did you flirt up Desire beforehand? Now I know Desire is a hidden value, but there are nevertheless clues to give you a good guess where it is... Using the same scenario you just described, try jacking up Desire as high as you can manage first, and see if that makes any difference. I play without the Desire bar at all. I always adjust penises when I start a new game and set all female Sims' preferences for specific penis sizes. So, I've always played with preferences for about three years. As for large penises sticking out of Sims' stomachs, I just disable the animation where a large penis behaves incorrectly. I tried creating a male Sim and fucking the whole town. As a result, he gets the strawberry moodlet from some Sims, but not from others. The strawberry moodlet appears even if the male Sim is having sex with a Sim he isn’t attracted to. But with some female Sims who do attract him, he still doesn’t get the strawberry moodlet. Edited February 9, 2025 by GalieN
PeterMcPhallus Posted February 9, 2025 Posted February 9, 2025 2 hours ago, GalieN said: I play without the Desire bar at all. I always adjust penises when I start a new game and set all female Sims' preferences for specific penis sizes. So, I've always played with preferences for about three years. As for large penises sticking out of Sims' stomachs, I just disable the animation where a large penis behaves incorrectly. I've never heard of a Desire "bar". My understanding is that Desire is hidden value that WW creates and uses to determine how much a sim wants to have sex with the sim that is asking for it, how enjoyable the sex is while it is taking place, and finally how sexually satisfied they are afterward. As far as the animations go, it's not just clipping through the body, but also large penises clip on mouths, hands, feet, thighs, breasts, just about everything, really. I would end up disabling more than half of my animations. I use a height slider mod too, and while I'd prefer it if my tall sims and my petite sims could remain that way during sex, I had to turn on WW's built-in auto height equalizer because the height difference jacked up every single one of the animations. 2 hours ago, GalieN said: I tried creating a male Sim and fucking the whole town. As a result, he gets the strawberry moodlet from some Sims, but not from others. The strawberry moodlet appears even if the male Sim is having sex with a Sim he isn’t attracted to. But with some female Sims who do attract him, he still doesn’t get the strawberry moodlet. I did the same thing. I have a bachelor sim who has been with every female sim in my game (short of children and elders). It's clear we play the game differently. I wonder why I get Strawberries and Bananas almost every time and you don't? The only thing I can guess is that I go through about two sim-hours worth of Flirtation and Physical Intimacy actions before I start sex? I was doing that one time, and not watching the clock. My sim had to go to work right as I was ready to start the sex. I had her so worked up at that point, she came home from work six sim-hours later with a half-dozen or more negative moodlets, all related (based on the flavor text) to being lonely, sexually frustrated, desperate, and horny. Stressed and Uncomfortable were through the roof, I think she even had a couple of Angry ones. Thank god she didn't have the Insatiably Lustful trait on her, or she might have dropped dead. So from that I surmised that if you get the Desire value high enough, and then fail to initiate sex, it can put your sim into a world of hurt. Another time I was trying to create a femdom reverse-forced scenario (don't ask, I was just in one of those moods), so I had a sim ask for sex from a sim she didn't like (Friendship -60), found very unattractive (one of the few times I engineered that), and was in an Angry mood to boot. The result was no orgasm for her, unsatisfying sex moodlets for both of them, and she was more pissed off at him than when they started. I also had Sac's Extreme Violence mod installed at the time, so she autonomously stabbed him to death right afterward. I'm pretty sure she didn't get the Banana moodlet, but then I was too busy laughing my ass off because her response to bad sex was to up and murder the poor guy.
Jolie Rouge Posted June 2, 2025 Posted June 2, 2025 I know I'm late to the party but have to add something. Just today I added a male sim to my single girl sim and they hit it off; he got the strawberry, she the banana. And then..... the game froze for some reason or another. Thanks to SOSE* I went back to step one and re-added the guy, this time I forgot to remove the pheromonal flower trait. Still bananas but no strawberry. His looks are muscle and fat maxed out, hers are the curvy dream of a centerfold in a certain monthly. I might do a test later, by saving them to the library and starting a new game with his traits corrected. *Save Often Save Early 1
Jolie Rouge Posted June 3, 2025 Posted June 3, 2025 So, that test is a negative on both, no bananas or strawberries. Grmpf. What I know for sure, in every game so far Orange Bailey-Moon is a banana guy. Strong and heavy seems to be the key here. Thought: get all the nice looking girls into one household and add one guy. Luna Villareal. The Bjergsen sisters. Yuki Behr. Morgan Fyres. Zafira Cayaputri (spelling?). And one I'll have to find.... Sounds like madness but one at least should be a strawberry.
Jolie Rouge Posted June 6, 2025 Posted June 6, 2025 Okay, first the setup: Nadine, a vampire, has all the environment traits and loves nature. Casual romantic. 5 star celebrity. Based on Lilith Vatore. Peter, overweight, no job, lazy, chaotic, romantic. Robyn, chaotic and freegan. Married to Peter. Also a 5 star celebrity. Tina, a teen. Checking herself out says extremely attractive. And the results: Peter and Nadine got a strawberry but no banana. Robyn and Peter got the banana. Robyn and Nadine got the strawberry from Nadine. Tina fucked her teacher for better grades. Anjelo Morlind is a banana but Tina no strawberry. Peter cheated with Orion Michaelson and they got a strawberry Orion seems to be the same weight class as Peter. Forgot which sim did that, Darling Walsh is a strawberry. New game, same sims. No bananas or strawberries. Other strawberries: Freya from Nordhaven. Every game by now. I have to admit this is confusing. We have Darling the featherweight, Freya the middleweight and Orion the heavyweight. All three are strawberries. Why? No idea.
Jolie Rouge Posted July 3, 2025 Posted July 3, 2025 (edited) On 6/15/2025 at 7:24 AM, HaRRyMix said: The Strawberry is random Yep, that's the same conclusion I came to; explains why a couple in one game has both, banana and strawberry, while in a new game the same couple would have one or none of them. And the banana is way easier to create. Edited July 3, 2025 by Jolie Rouge
SuperNova78 Posted July 10, 2025 Posted July 10, 2025 Strawberry is when the male has 3 gold traits selected as his top favorites, and the female also has those traits.
Alien_G Posted July 26, 2025 Posted July 26, 2025 I believe the strawberry moodlet has something to do with the skintone, though it cannot be altered by the attractiveness preferences. For example, i had a male sims that did it with the Behr sisters and got the strawberry moodlet for both, and also did it with Julia Ward who also has the same skintone as the Behr sisters and got the moodlet as well. It has something to do with the pussy color. It just a theory though. 🫡
Keffka Posted July 27, 2025 Posted July 27, 2025 Moodlet shows up when sims are having sex with partners that have what they like. How you know / change that? go over your sim, click on it, select Attractiveness and Choose, not Develop, Choose them. Also click on your sim, select "Wicked>Settings>Nuditty>Body>Penis Size Manipulation Switch" then go to "Wicked (again)>Personalization>Anatomy & Clothing>Penis Adjustment>Change [Sim's name] Penis Size" (this might make the dick clip through body though). Strawberry means pussy, Banana is for dicks, tested it as follow: A sim that likes pussy and is fucking pussy gets the Strawberry, then changed it so the sim that had pussy now has a dick and Sim that likes pussy and now fucks with Dick-Ified Sim has no longer Strawberry moodlet. Sim that likes Dicks and is fucking with a sim that has dick gets Banana moodlet. Tested with above settings too; if Sim that likes Big Dicks is fucking with a sim that has a small dick has no banana Moodlet but if fucking a Sim with a Big dick and likes big dicks gets Banan moodlet
Zynaps Posted December 15, 2025 Posted December 15, 2025 (edited) On 6/15/2025 at 8:24 AM, LilLovercraft said: The Strawberry is random Most likely it is. I've made an experiment using that new option in MCCC - "Clone sim". The setup was following: two females, trying to get Double Strawberry. Original sims were getting none. Every run on 10 new copies of Sim B. Run 1: one Strawberry on Sim A, two on Sim B, no mutuals. Run 2 - no buff on any. Run 3; Sim A - 4 strawberries, Sim B - none. Run 4 - fully empty. Run 5: Sim A - 1 berry, Sim B - 1, no mutuals. So, the desired Double Strawberry finally has triggered somewhere around Run 12. Sims were EXACT copies in any byte, I compared their game code (sim_info). Then I've decompiled the WW script hoping to find any hint - didn't understand anything, mb some native Python speakers could help))))))))))) I don't get why it's made so EXTREMELY rare, literally 0.001% of probability. And my inner perfectionist can't stand my sims NOT having this buff, if they don't - this means their relationships are incomplete because of one of them being inferior, or even both of them.... Edited December 15, 2025 by Zynaps 2
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