Looking for: Mod that lets hermaphrodite characters impregnate spouses/consorts/lovers/etc. without the feature-bloat of the "futanari" mod.

[Lizzy Lezzy]

Title says it all. I'm just looking for something to allow a hermaphrodite character have randomized children with their spouse/consort/lover/etc. That's it.
It seems like the only mod that offers that is "Phaze's Futanari Mod", which (for me at least) is extremely feature-bloated and goofy with additions like a "Bog Blasters" faction running around, AI-generated porn events popping up every few minutes, and all sorts of other extraneous stuff.

Anyone got suggestions?

Edited January 27, 2025 by Lizzy Lezzy

[Vineyard Bandit]

Theoretically you could cull down the Phaze futa mod to just its bare components but that'd take some work and playtesting and might incur some crashes. The problem with futa impregnations is that they work against native CK3 mechanics, that being two women can't make a child. Phaze's Futa mod has a pretty decent workaround but it isn't perfect.

 

But to answer the question, no. There might be one buried in the forum thread for ck3 mods but if that's the case I doubt it's compatible with any near-modern version.

[radarcolorwall]

That mod does have some gamerule options for turning off events and stuff, if you don't mind the file size

[dekeche]

You'd probably be best served by talking the futanari mod and removing all the events except for the pregnancy ones. Or doing so with gamerules.

 

For futanari pregnancies, there are two main obstacles; first, pregnancies must be handled via events, as the game has hard-coded pregnancies. second, same-sex marriages need to either be enabled via game rules (which disables achievements... for some reason.) or enabled via modding. Both of these are solved in the futanari mod, so there's just not a lot of incentive to duplicate work.

[Lyskorie]

39 minutes ago, dekeche said:

You'd probably be best served by talking the futanari mod and removing all the events except for the pregnancy ones. Or doing so with gamerules.

 

For futanari pregnancies, there are two main obstacles; first, pregnancies must be handled via events, as the game has hard-coded pregnancies. second, same-sex marriages need to either be enabled via game rules (which disables achievements... for some reason.) or enabled via modding. Both of these are solved in the futanari mod, so there's just not a lot of incentive to duplicate work.

To be fair, for the second, you can install a mod on Steam Workshop that... makes game rules enable achievements anyway. I use it for the faster culture/faith conversion because base speed is slow but yeah that's sth you can do.

[Monedeath]

53 minutes ago, dekeche said:

You'd probably be best served by talking the futanari mod and removing all the events except for the pregnancy ones. Or doing so with gamerules.

 

For futanari pregnancies, there are two main obstacles; first, pregnancies must be handled via events, as the game has hard-coded pregnancies. second, same-sex marriages need to either be enabled via game rules (which disables achievements... for some reason.) or enabled via modding. Both of these are solved in the futanari mod, so there's just not a lot of incentive to duplicate work.

Well, some of the Futanari mod work predates other options. Not sure how it behaves, and I'd be surprised if Phaze and others haven't tried it yet. But with the "recent" (past year) addition of the ability to add different races to the game. Maybe make futanari a race that can impregnate normal women, basically tricking the game into thinking they're male. (Of course, the flip side is, they won't get pregnant themselves.)

I'm guessing the feature gains vs effort required has generally consigned it to being niche application and still "a hack" that doesn't fully resolve the issues involved. But if implications from Elf Destiny are considered, there could be room for some "fun" on the male to futa side of things on that much.

[Lyskorie]

10 minutes ago, Monedeath said:

Well, some of the Futanari mod work predates other options. Not sure how it behaves, and I'd be surprised if Phaze and others haven't tried it yet. But with the "recent" (past year) addition of the ability to add different races to the game. Maybe make futanari a race that can impregnate normal women, basically tricking the game into thinking they're male. (Of course, the flip side is, they won't get pregnant themselves.)

I'm guessing the feature gains vs effort required has generally consigned it to being niche application and still "a hack" that doesn't fully resolve the issues involved. But if implications from Elf Destiny are considered, there could be room for some "fun" on the male to futa side of things on that much.

If anything, the whole different races thing still doesn't really see a lot of applications - I think Elf Destiny uses Unified Race Framework (which is an entirely different thing before the whole different races thing)

[ShawnnieLove]

How does futa work in the carnilatas?

[Monedeath]

5 hours ago, ShawnnieLove said:

How does futa work in the carnilatas?

It mostly doesn't. Depending on your defintion of "work" at least.

The underlying work on Carn is even older still. (and the framework for Phaze's)

Basically it provides trait flags that are handled as inheritable traits in game, and it can bestow the Futanari trait on female characters, and female characters only. So it basically begins and ends with attaching a penis to the female character models, and that only because the lower genitals themselves isn't provided through the game.

 

My understanding is this is based on hard-coded game constraints, many of which still remain from release. (playing with alternate races wasn't an option 2 years ago as a stock feature)

Even in the most current version of the game, any character the game considers to be male cannot become pregnant.

 

Current game constraints also continue to mean you cannot assign female character assets to a character the game believes to be a human male. (You might be able to work around this by rendering the character non-human) But this basically means any futanari males you created in game might be altered such that you could graft a vagina onto their body(as the lower genitals aren't stock in any case, remember the fig-leaf is the stock asset for that), but giving them breasts as males isn't happening without very extreme effort.

 

Now to shift over to where both are impacted. As the game will not allow male pregnancy, the game's "dynasty family tree" also does not allow a character to be both a mother, and a father. There are mods that have since brute forced their way around part of this issue, but it's very much a kludge. What they do is they essentially kill the original character, and create a new one in game of the other gender, but as they're different characters, the game treats them as different people. I also remember from some save file editing, as it isn't possible in game itself, that even if you could change the gender of a character, you encounter the previous issues mentioned about dynasty family trees. It confuses the game to no end when it finds a character id that previously was male (and had children),  is now suddenly female--it really messes with the tree/inheritance because it wants to handle things as though the character was always female, but there is another character already flagged as the mother so... It isn't just a "futa problem" but also one for all forms of transexual or genderbending activities a player might want to get up to in game, the code base actively makes it exceptionally difficult, if not game breaking, even if you resort to creating tools to edit save game files to accomplish what the game engine itself won't allow.

[ShawnnieLove]

14 hours ago, Monedeath said:

It mostly doesn't. Depending on your defintion of "work" at least.

The underlying work on Carn is even older still. (and the framework for Phaze's)

Basically it provides trait flags that are handled as inheritable traits in game, and it can bestow the Futanari trait on female characters, and female characters only. So it basically begins and ends with attaching a penis to the female character models, and that only because the lower genitals themselves isn't provided through the game.

 

My understanding is this is based on hard-coded game constraints, many of which still remain from release. (playing with alternate races wasn't an option 2 years ago as a stock feature)

Even in the most current version of the game, any character the game considers to be male cannot become pregnant.

 

Current game constraints also continue to mean you cannot assign female character assets to a character the game believes to be a human male. (You might be able to work around this by rendering the character non-human) But this basically means any futanari males you created in game might be altered such that you could graft a vagina onto their body(as the lower genitals aren't stock in any case, remember the fig-leaf is the stock asset for that), but giving them breasts as males isn't happening without very extreme effort.

 

Now to shift over to where both are impacted. As the game will not allow male pregnancy, the game's "dynasty family tree" also does not allow a character to be both a mother, and a father. There are mods that have since brute forced their way around part of this issue, but it's very much a kludge. What they do is they essentially kill the original character, and create a new one in game of the other gender, but as they're different characters, the game treats them as different people. I also remember from some save file editing, as it isn't possible in game itself, that even if you could change the gender of a character, you encounter the previous issues mentioned about dynasty family trees. It confuses the game to no end when it finds a character id that previously was male (and had children),  is now suddenly female--it really messes with the tree/inheritance because it wants to handle things as though the character was always female, but there is another character already flagged as the mother so... It isn't just a "futa problem" but also one for all forms of transexual or genderbending activities a player might want to get up to in game, the code base actively makes it exceptionally difficult, if not game breaking, even if you resort to creating tools to edit save game files to accomplish what the game engine itself won't allow.

so does it mean that futa can't get woman pregnant?

[dekeche]

17 hours ago, ShawnnieLove said:

so does it mean that futa can't get woman pregnant?

 

Not using the in-game systems for handling it, no. Phaze's gets around this by implementing events for handling the pregnancy and trait inheritance. But it kind of sidesteps the whole family tree issue by not trying to assign the second parent as the parent, instead using events to decide who the child's mother is and the house they belong to. Which works, but basically lets you game the entire inheritance system. It works, but it's not ideal.

Edited January 29, 2025 by dekeche