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Having an issue with SMP physics twitching when I also have CBPC installed. Here's a video of what I mean: https://youtu.be/5MonTwM3mjg
 

This issue only occurs on armor/bodies that use Touched by Dibella SMP. You can see it clearly in the breasts in the clip, but the butt twitches heavily at the same time. In the video, you can see my follower in the background doesn't twitch at all; her outfit uses CPBC physics. If I uninstall CBBE 3BA, the twitching goes away.

 

Here's my modlist:

 

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#Mod_Priority,#Mod_Status,#Mod_Name
"0000","+","Creation Club: _ResourcePack"
"0001","+","DLC: HearthFires"
"0002","+","DLC: Dragonborn"
"0003","+","DLC: Dawnguard"
"0004","+","Creation Club: ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode"
"0005","+","Creation Club: ccBGSSSE037-Curios"
"0006","+","Creation Club: ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS"
"0007","+","Creation Club: ccBGSSSE001-Fish"
"0008","+","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch - USSEP"
"0009","+","Address Library for SKSE Plugins"
"0010","+","PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions"
"0011","+","RaceMenu"
"0012","+","SkyUI"
"0013","+","Cleaned Skyrim SE Textures"
"0014","+","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended"
"0015","+","XP32 XPMSSE Double body 1st person fix"
"0016","+","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE"
"0017","+","Faster HDT-SMP"
"0018","+","CBPC - Physics with Collisions"
"0019","+","Highly Improved Male Body Overhaul -HIMBO-"
"0020","+","Highly Improved Male Body Overhaul -HIMBO- Physics"
"0021","+","Highly Improved Male Body Overhaul -HIMBO- Refits"
"0022","+","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-"
"0023","+","Touched by Dibella"
"0024","+","CBBE 3BA"
"0025","+","Touched by Dibella SMP"
"0026","+","SMP-NPC crash fix"
"0027","+","High Poly Head SE"
"0028","+","BodySlide and Outfit Studio"
"0030","+","MergeMapper"
"0032","+","JContainers SE"
"0033","+","UIExtensions"
"0034","+","Bug Fixes SSE"
"0035","+","SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)"
"0036","+","SSE Display Tweaks"
"0037","+","powerofthree's Tweaks"
"0038","+","powerofthree's Papyrus Extender"
"0039","+","Papyrus Tweaks NG"
"0040","+","Better Jumping SE"
"0041","+","Animation Queue Fix"
"0042","+","Equip Enchantment Fix"
"0043","+","Paired Animation Improvements"
"0044","+","Animation Motion Revolution"
"0045","+","Static Mesh Improvement Mod"
"0046","+","Open Animation Replacer"
"0047","+","Dynamic Activation Key"
"0048","+","Spell Perk Item Distributor"
"0049","+","Keyword Item Distributor"
"0050","+","Keyword Compatibility Framework"
"0051","+","Skyrim 202X Downscale"
"0052","+","Skyrim Outfit System SE Revived"
"0053","+","MCM Helper"
"0054","+","Mfg Fix"
"0055","+","Heels Sound"
"0056","+","moreHUD SE"
"0057","+","TrueHUD - HUD Additions"
"0058","+","A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget"
"0059","+","Modern Wait Menu"
"0066","+","Modpocalypse NPCs - Resources"
"0067","+","BnP female 4k"
"0068","+","BnP female skin small update"
"0069","+","Tempered Skins for Males - Dressed Version"
"0070","+","Mature Skin 2 CBBE (SE)"
"0071","+","Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [CBBE]"
"0072","+","Feminine Argonian Textures (Chameleon and Lizard) [CBBE]"
"0073","+","Weathered Nordic Bodypaints -Special Edition- RaceMenu Overlays and Warpaints"
"0075","+","DIbella's Blessing"
"0076","+","Skyrim Flora Overhaul SE"
"0077","+","Nordic Snow"
"0078","+","Edmond's Official Unique Flowers and Plants SSE"
"0079","+","Skyrim Textures Redone Enhanced Night Sky"
"0080","+","Enhanced Lights and FX"
"0081","+","ELFX Shadows"
"0082","+","ELFX - Hearthfire Light Addon"
"0083","+","ELFX Enhancer - Brighter Living Spaces"
"0084","+","Lux - Via"
"0085","+","Mythical Ages - weathers and lighting overhaul"
"0086","+","General Stores - Auto Sorting Cloud Storage Resource for packrats SE Convert"
"0087","+","General Stores for Vanilla and Hearthfire Homes - SSE"
"0088","+","General Stores - Addon for Severin Manor in Dragonborn DLC"
"0089","+","Font Overhaul - Natural Typefaces for Skyrim (FONTS)"
"0090","+","2K Waterskin for INEED LAST SEED SUNHELM and IMMERSIVE NEEDS"
"0091","+","Aesthetical nirnroots"
"0093","+","Apachii Sky Hair SSE"
"0094","+","Apachii Sky Hair SSE 1.5"
"0095","+","KS Hairdos SSE"
"0096","+","KS Hairdos - HDT SMP (Physics)"
"0097","+","HG Hairdos SE"
"0098","+","SC - The Witcher 3 hairdos"
"0099","+","The Expanded World of Bikini Armors"
"0100","+","TAWOBA REMASTERED CBBE SE"
"0101","+","TBDSMP TAWOBA Complete"
"0102","+","The Expanded World of Bikini Armors - TBD - TBD SMP"
"0103","+","Dragon's Crown Sorceress - TBD SMP"
"0104","+","[Caenarvon] Spindrift Knight"
"0105","+","Caenarvon Spindrift Knight TBD SMP"
"0106","+","BHUNP EGIL Battle Queen"
"0107","+","EGIL Battle Queen TBD SMP"
"0108","+","DrSlumpX Milkmaid Outfit - CBBE SSE - CBBE 3BA - TBD - BHUNP"
"0109","+","HDT Tails Wearable - SE Conversion"
"0110","+","Shino Sweet Magician - CBBE SE - TBD SE - BodySlide - SMP"
"0111","+","Dawn Warrior Armor - Official Uniform of the Heartbow Rangers - 3BA"
"0112","+","Dawn Warrior"
"0113","+","ELLE - Ginnungagap 3BA-BHUNP"
"0114","+","ELLE - Ginnungagap - TBD"
"0115","+","Daughters of Dimitrescu Outfit - CBBE 3BA - TBD - BHUNP"
"0117","+","Kreiste's Skimpy Outfits for HIMBO - Vanilla Male Armors and Clothing Replacers"
"0118","+","Kreiste's Skimpy Outfits for HIMBO - Undies Toggle Replacement"
"0119","+","Skyfall's Fortified Morthal"
"0120","+","Strange Runes"
"0122","+","Populated Lands Roads Paths for SE"
"0123","+","Populated Cities Towns Villages SE Edition"
"0124","+","Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul"
"0125","+","Immersive Wenches"
"0126","+","Immersive Wenches - Immersive Citizens Patch"
"0127","+","Immersive Wenches - Apachii Hairs Patch"
"0128","+","(ESL) Creatures of Nirn - Khajiit Alfiq (SSE port)"
"0129","+","HDT - Khajiit Alfiq Patch"
"0130","+","Chickens and Chicks- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)"
"0131","+","THICCEN - thiccer 'n' thiccer - Fat Chicken Replacer"
"0132","+","Cow Replacer- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)"
"0133","+","Giants Overhaul- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)"
"0134","+","Mimics and Oozes- Mihail Monsters and Animals (SE-AE version)"
"0135","+","New Spriggans SFW"
"0136","+","New Wispmother"
"0137","+","The Mudcrab Merchant- Immersive Easter Eggs (SE-AE version) (''morrowind'')"
"0138","+","Diverse Dogs"
"0139","+","Realistic Dog Sounds"
"0140","+","Dragon Breath VFX Edit"
"0141","+","Simple Little Buddies - Custom Voiced Pets"
"0143","+","Arena - An Encounter Zone Overhaul"
"0144","+","Arena - Easy Spawns"
"0145","+","NPCs Take Cover - Smarter Anti-Cheese AI"
"0146","+","Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim"
"0147","+","Action Based Projectiles - Dodgeable Range Attacks"
"0148","+","Immersive Needs ESL"
"0149","+","Mannequins Improved"
"0150","+","Mannequins Improved Patches"
"0151","+","Extended Bandit Dialogue"
"0152","+","Player Headtracking SE"
"0153","+","Improved Camera SE"
"0154","+","Improved Camera Patch Collection"
"0155","+","Customizable Camera"
"0156","+","Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim"
"0157","+","Immersive Weapons"
"0158","+","Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim"
"0159","+","Gravewind"
"0161","+","True Directional Movement - Modernized Third Person Gameplay"
"0162","+","Pretty Female Idles"
"0164","+","Pretty Sit Idle DAR CUSTOM"
"0165","+","EVG CLAMBER - Slope Animations"
"0166","+","Immersive Interactions - Animated Actions"
"0167","+","Gesture Animation Remix (OAR)"
"0168","+","Pretty Combat Animations (SE)"
"0169","+","Pretty Combat Animations - Weapon Master - Back (SE)"
"0171","+","Pretty Combat Animations - Spell Master (SE)"
"0172","+","Pretty Jump Animations SSE"
"0173","+","Smooth Random Sprint Animation"
"0174","+","mcgFemaleWalk for Skyrim SE"
"0175","+","Random Emotions SSE"
"0176","+","EVG Conditional Idles"
"0177","+","RaceMenu High Heels (Height Fixes)"
"0178","+","Expressive Facegen Morphs SE"
"0179","+","Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition-"
"0180","+","Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition-"
"0181","+","UNDERDOG - Death Animations OAR"
"0182","+","EVG Animated Traversal"
"0183","+","SkyClimb"
"0184","+","SkyClimb 1.6.1170 Fix"
"0185","+","I'm Glad You're Here - a follower and spouse appreciation mod - SSE"
"0186","+","I'm Glad You're Here - Pet the Dog Patch"
"0187","+","Super Fast Get Up Animation"
"0188","+","Disable Turn Animation SE I AE"
"0190","+","To Your Face SE - AE - VR"
"0191","+","Remember Lockpick Angle - Updated"
"0192","+","Encounter Zones Unlocked SE"
"0193","+","Survival Control Panel"
"0194","+","Positive Undressed Reactions"
"0195","+","Breast and Butt Size Scaling for NPCs"
"0196","+","No Enchantment Restriction SKSE Remake"
"0197","+","Run Faster (Enchantment to fortify Movement Speed)"
"0198","+","Realistic Ragdolls and Force"
"0199","+","Civil War Lines Expansion"
"0200","+","explosive animals"
"0201","+","Go to bed"
"0202","+","Sidequests of Skyrim"
"0204","+","Fixed body collision"
"0205","+","Face Discoloration Fix"
"0206","+","Auto Input Switch"
"0207","+","Trainwreck - A Crash Logger"
"0208","+","Good Dog"

 

 

Not entirely sure if everything is set up properly. Physics mods as a whole still kinda confuse me.

Posted

You're using both TBD and CBBE? Unless you have some odd custom setup, they're going to overwrite each-other and have all sorts of weird conflicts. That's probably what's causing your issues.

Posted

Ah.. I think I see what you mean. 3BA supports SMP, but it's probably specifically geared towards CBBE SMP. It's not optimized for TBD SMP, which why I'm having issues. I just figured they'd play well together since 3BA by itself works on everything in my game.

 

Guess I'll stick with 3BA then, and try to tweak the collisions for the proportions I'm using.

Posted

Oh gosh, how do I explain this... 3BA is specifically built on top of CBBE. Without getting too technical, it changes the CBBE body to better interact with physics. 3BA literally only works with CBBE because it's altering the meshes inside of CBBE. I don't mess around with TBD SMP but I imagine it's doing roughly the same thing.

You can use either CBBE and 3BA, or TBD and TBD SMP. Mixing them (or using all of them) will cause issues.

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