7th Sinner Posted June 8 Posted June 8 6 hours ago, Tlam99 said: Find Savos included. Ooooo, that's brilliant, thank you, it goes right into my modlist! Still gonna hold off from finishing the questline right now though, just in case you manage to figure out Ancano as well. 1 hour ago, JamesKrauser8585 said: Excuse me, what does the mod do or what is it about? Several College of Winterhold NPCs die by the end of the questline. This mod allows the player to bring those NPCs back. 1
Tlam99 Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 (edited) 1 hour ago, 7th Sinner said: Ancano as well Ancano needs an overwrite of the NPC. He has a script attached. I really hesitate to do this. The way I see is a duplicte, not the original. This can then be used at any time (after the quest best). PS: OK, I made an overwrite. As the quest is over, I could add him to the potential follower faction on resurrect. Behavior the same as before, but the possibility. If one does not want it, stick with the former version. see screen: Spoiler Edited June 8 by Tlam99
Tlam99 Posted June 8 Author Posted June 8 (edited) 3 hours ago, 7th Sinner said: Ancano V4.0 WARNING !!!!!!! this overwrites the npc record. If you have replacers installed it can mess up things (need forwarding records e.g. via Xedit) (remove the cleanup script). DO NOT cast the resurrection spells before the npc's are dead, quest finished ! It needs some changes to the Ancano NPC. 1. remove from the get hostile to Player Faction. 2. removed from the No FavorFaction (so one can build up a relationship. 3. added to College Faction (same rank as Mirabelle. Rank is accesible via Xedit 4. set actor value aggression to 0 (to avoid he is attacking you after resurrect. Spell tome craftable as others. I did not block the spells for other NPC's. Be careful ! It might be of use, but think about it. PS:not tested Edited June 8 by Tlam99
7th Sinner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 Tested 4.0 and, sadly, it indeed does mess up Ancano's visual replacer that I have in my game. I don't really know much about those Xedit forwarding things, so I guess I'll just stick to 3.0 and live without Ancano. Thank you nonetheless for the Mirabelle and Savos 🙏
Tlam99 Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 40 minutes ago, 7th Sinner said: visual replacer Ok, I will make it without npc record change. The dead body cleanup script gives you 3 days to resurrect. As far I remember, the cleanup script terminates after 3 days without affecting the npc when alive. What I do not remember right now, is it a fixed script I got in my setup. 1
Tlam99 Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 2 hours ago, 7th Sinner said: Ancano Here we go, V4.1 added a spell to exclude Ancano from Cleanup. Same mats as other tomes but no conditions to craft. Cast it onto Ancano when he is alive. Remarks: I have indeed a fixed Cleanup script, but it does not touch the points here. It fixes a possible crash when no urns exists to move the body to. It's not made by me, downloaded this years ago. Search for WIDeadBodyCleanupScript crashfix
7th Sinner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 1 hour ago, Tlam99 said: Here we go, V4.1 added a spell to exclude Ancano from Cleanup. Same mats as other tomes but no conditions to craft. Cast it onto Ancano when he is alive. Just installed 4.1, Ancano preserved his face from Pandorables overhaul. I did cast the spell on him in the Hall of the Elements. I am only at the start of Mzulft right now so it'll be a bit until I can resurrect them all, but I'll be back to report 🫡 Thank you once again! Edited June 9 by 7th Sinner
7th Sinner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 Rushed to the end of the College questline. Ancano worked well, I cast resurrection on his body, he got up, redressed and went about his usual routine, completely non-hostile to anyone. Unfortunately, I am struggling to find the place where Savos Should be resurrected. Tried near and inside The Chill, Septimius Signus outpost, The Serpent Stone - first three locations that came to mind after mentioning "only ice and water around". No success in any of those locations. And as for Mirabelle, I suppose "where the souls go" means Soul Cairn which is quite a good bit deep into the Dawnguard questline which I didn't even start yet...
Tlam99 Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 (edited) Chill is ok, near entrance he appeared. I had problems to see his body on the ground. His greyish skin might obscure him on the ground. Edited June 9 by Tlam99
7th Sinner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Tlam99 said: Chill is ok, near entrance he appeared. I had problems to see his body on the ground. His greyish skin might obscure him on the ground. Yeah, I went back inside The Chill and his body was in an unlit corner, so I guess I missed it the first time. I hit him with the spell, he got up, redressed and walked towards the College. Unlike Ancano, proper dialogue with Savos is locked (he only says random phrases when I press E on him), but that's not a big deal. As for Mirabelle - my friend in Soul Cairn means Jiub? I should cast the spell near him? Edited June 9 by 7th Sinner
Tlam99 Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 (edited) Hm, the dialogue Savos should work. Maybe the unblock command did not fire. Will check (or resurrect again) Serana's mother. It's the only save place there. I run a new and an older game to check the things. The new is middle Archmage quest. On the old Arcano is no more available. So it's hard to test every aspect. For Savos I will send the unblock a 2nd time some s delayed. If the resurrect function has not finished before unblock send, it could skip it. I added some sort of debug spell. Talk to me Savos. No conditions to craft, mats as others. This sends the unblock only. Cast on Savos. PS: Just tested Savos with my old game. Found him near the entrance and could talk to him after resurrect. I red the book in solitude, quick travel chill. Anyway. the talk to me should help if something went wrong. Edited June 9 by Tlam99
7th Sinner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) Unfortunately, the new spell seems to have no effect on Savos. I tried casting it on him in the college when he was already resurrected and tried a slightly older save when he was still a body on the ground inside The Chill, resurrected and cast the "talk to me spell". No luck either. What I also noticed is that I started getting "you cannot wait in this location" message inside the Hall of the Elements. Edited June 9 by 7th Sinner
Tlam99 Posted June 9 Author Posted June 9 (edited) 39 minutes ago, 7th Sinner said: you cannot wait in this location" message inside the Hall of the Elements. Edited 2 minutes ago by 7th Sinner This is Vanilla, forbidden to wait because quest. Savos must be another problem then. very likely his ai stucks. Open console, target him and type resetai. Disable/ enable might work, too. Shout unrelenting force on him. This happens sometimes. If nothing helps, check you see him last alive, if there is a dialogue bug. Sexlab dialogue has a fix (fix needed for the fix, it sets the mate flag which can be reset onky via script) Dibella's bone, knocked out and scene. Combat. He must be forced out of the stuck dialogue Edited June 9 by Tlam99
7th Sinner Posted June 9 Posted June 9 (edited) Tried resetai, disable/enable, shout/push him, no luck. The closest save I have to his death is the one from Mzulft, I loaded that, went back to the College, Savos is available for normal dialogue. Not that big of a deal in the end tbh. Suggestion: maybe move Mirabelle's resurrection place to Midden Dark/Augur's room? That way people won't have to complete half the game just to get her back, considering the other characters are fairly easily found. Edited June 9 by 7th Sinner
stavlan Posted June 9 Posted June 9 If I don't care about Ancano and Savos which version is the most stable and does only what it says on the tin? 1
caddo9tales Posted June 10 Posted June 10 6 hours ago, stavlan said: If I don't care about Ancano and Savos which version is the most stable and does only what it says on the tin? I'd bring him back just to kill him again!
7th Sinner Posted June 10 Posted June 10 9 hours ago, stavlan said: If I don't care about Ancano and Savos which version is the most stable and does only what it says on the tin? 2.0 is the last version that touches only Mirabelle.
Tlam99 Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 (edited) 22 hours ago, 7th Sinner said: Suggestion: Guess I found a volunteer to test an alternative. Mirabelles Ceremony. It's not tested, can not test, too many quests to do in the new game. It uses a couple of resources of my other mods, so I could make it quite quickly. (not needed as masters, standalone) The book with some Instructions 1 iron Ingot smelter. Follow this instructions, Wear the Helmet in the room she died, not before. The Helmet "Mirabelle Ceronomy Helmet" (reveals the unseen) 1xTrollSkull, 1xFirewood, 1xFiresalt at smelter. Before equipping the Helmet, you must be naked. (No nails, wig, nothing. pure skin, I don't like the unequipall() in a script)) Shall I upload ? V1.0.1 (the note was not readable) Edited June 10 by Tlam99
Tlam99 Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 32 minutes ago, 7th Sinner said: soon Note still not readable 1.01 Uploaded V1.0.2 (note added via tome to craft, note placed in inventory)
Tlam99 Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 25 minutes ago, 7th Sinner said: 1.0.2 in a minute looked always at smelter, but it had the Keyword workbench......😖
Tlam99 Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 (edited) 50 minutes ago, 7th Sinner said: 1.0.2 OK took me 2 hours to find the Keyword issue. I love Smelters. The book which adds the note is craftable 1 iton ingot at any smelter. Read the Book places a Myterius Note into your Inventory. Recipt for Helmet Mirabelle Ceremony. This is craftable only when finished this quest, Mirabelle gone. The point, appears Mirabelle on equip helmet where she died ? can you resurrect her with the spell ? I checked on the living Mirabelle before the quest. No effects, maybe a little Other NPC's are safe, too. Edited June 10 by Tlam99
7th Sinner Posted June 10 Posted June 10 (edited) Not sure what just happened here, language barrier got in the way of understanding or something... I crafted a book, then the note, then the helmet. Went back to the Hall of the Elements where Mirabelle has allegedly died, undressed and equipped the helmet. It autoequipped the skeleton on me as well and gave me a new spell. That spell does nothing but launches firewood from my hands and occasionally ragdolls me?! Am I missing something there? Or is this a prank? Edited June 10 by 7th Sinner
Tlam99 Posted June 10 Author Posted June 10 Hm, Mirabelle did not appear. The question is now, wrong place or still disabled. The spell works on her dead body only, resurrect. This comes after she appeared. Need to check if is the right alias.
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