Having an issue with NPC changers

[Raven 54]

I use Skyrim SE downgraded to 1.5.97, Vortex, SOS full, CBBE 3 BA, I had some npc changers such as Farodadestin mods/Nexus installed, uninstalled them and installed Coldsuns All in One pack at the start of a new Game.

I use Alt Start Live a New Life, when I was done with Character Creation and setting my MCM, I went into the world where my game immediately crashed. Uninstall NPC replacers game runs fine, install any NPC replacers game crashes.

I have used them in previous games so I can't understand why I have an issue now.

I have looked through my game files and cannot find any leftovers that could be interfering, any advice would be most appreciated.

I do not know how to use XEdit, if someone could point me to a tutorial for Dummies  I would be thankful!   

 

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/110702  One of Farodadestin's mod's I had installed

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/109529  Npc's by Coldsun All in One Pack

Edited September 30, 2024 by Raven 54

[traison]

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/59818

[Raven 54]

2024-09-30-06-44-39.log

 

@traison  Here it is, please don't laugh at me, it looks pretty bad if length is any indication.

Edited October 1, 2024 by Raven 54

[traison]

Since you used trainwreck instead of the crash logger I linked the only thing I can tell you is that the issue is with some facegen mesh. Thus I'm going to say that your issue stems from something that changes the expression morph tri files and this happens to not be compatible with the follower heads. For instance, it could be the followers you download use HPH or the author(s) that made them was using some expression mod that you don't have; or the otherway around: follower was made using the vanilla head and you have HPH or an expression changer. I don't know how much of what gets baked into facegen meshes, but this is where I'd start.

[Raven 54]

@traison

Thank You, Trainwreck was a req of one mod, can I uninstall it?? Would that be better as I have crash logger. not installed

I have expressive facial animations for Males/Females installed.

I was using "The Wheel of Time" and when I uninstalled it & started a new game this is the result. I can add followers just fine, they have expressions fine, but to try to replace an existing NPC and CTD.

Thank You for your valuable knowledge and assistance!

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/55404           the Wheel of Time

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/99264           "                            " npc overhaul

 

Edited October 1, 2024 by Raven 54

[traison]

29 minutes ago, Raven 54 said:

Trainwreck was a req of one mod

 

Very much doubt it, unless the author of that mod was implying it crashes so much you might as well pre-install the crash logger. 😆

 

30 minutes ago, Raven 54 said:

Would that be better as I have crash logger. not installed

 

Would Crash Logger be better than Trainwreck? Depends on how much work you want to do yourself. Trainwreck doesn't print class contents for instance, only their presumed names. So you end up with:

 

Character*

 

Instead of something like:

 

Character*

Form id: ...

Name: ...

Reference id: ...

Plugin: ...

...

 

Trainwreck is great for those that for some reason want to fire up a debugger, get by the debugger traps and DRM in Skyrim, then figure out what the character's name was that was involved in the crash. For any non-masochists and remote assistance situations (like here) the only reasonable option is Crash Logger.

[IBAGadget]

As a longtime user of Coldsun's work (and have had zero issues) I can only guess that you are missing requirements.

 

do you have High Poly Head installed?

Do you have Coldsun's Asset Pack for the NPC replacer?

If you are using his newest replacer, do you have the BEES mod installed? (this allows newer mods made to run on AE to work on SE)

[traison]

19 minutes ago, IBAGadget said:

If you are using his newest replacer, do you have the BEES mod installed?

 

The crash log would have been different in this case, otherwise I agree with you. Its essentially what I said in one of my earlier posts.

[Raven 54]

1 hour ago, IBAGadget said:

As a longtime user of Coldsun's work (and have had zero issues) I can only guess that you are missing requirements.

 

do you have High Poly Head installed?

Do you have Coldsun's Asset Pack for the NPC replacer?

If you are using his newest replacer, do you have the BEES mod installed? (this allows newer mods made to run on AE to work on SE)

Thank You for your help! 

Coldsun is fantastic, as I said I used his mods on previous games, even had the Supernaturals and Companions installed and working when I installed the NPC AIO pack which is when my game crashed. I then remembered that so I uninstalled Supernaturals and Companions, started a new game and then I couldn't get my game to run with any npc replacer.

No on HPH, yes on Requirements, yes on BEES.

 

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/130061        Companions

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/129077       Supernaturals

Edited October 1, 2024 by Raven 54
typo

[Raven 54]

2 hours ago, traison said:

the only reasonable option is Crash Logger.

I will install Crash logger and take out trainwreck, Thank You!