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So, my dragonborn of level 11 comes back to whiterun to get a little bit of R&R from the Bannered Mare after a couple days of trying not to die from quest dungeons. So, using Radiant Prostitution, she goes on call with Hulda and finds her first customer for the night. The two head up to her rented room aaaaaaand. Nothing. I press the dialogue option to initiate the sex, but both actors just stand there, clothes on. I talk to the customer again and apparently I'm already asking for the money.

 

So I went through the troubleshooting steps. Cleaning & Reseting Sexlab didn't do anything. Everything is updated. So, I saw there was a problem with NMM and a readme option. So I reinstalled Sexlab and all its addons with the buggy option unchecked. I ran BOSS which didn't do anything with the sexlab addons, so I went into Wrye Bash and set them above the bash patch. Closing that, I went into FNIS and ran GenerateForUsers. Oddly enough, there were no errors, yet when I use the 'Consistency Check' there's no feedback but an empty newline. Going back in game, I try again. Lo and behold, the animations worked. Once. And it was so horribly misaligned that I pressed the ] key to realign the scene and my character went to the opposite side of the inn than where the scene was taking place. So, I went into MCM sexlab and stopped all animations. Then a new animation started and I stopped that too. Then I reloaded, trying to see if I did something wrong or if I should try manually realigning the characters with the other keys.

 

However, the animations no longer worked. Again. I tried to save, quit skyrim, reload. Nothing worked. Please help me.

 

The below Papyrus log is of my last effort. All it is, is me starting Skyrim, loading the last save game, pressing the dialogue option to start the sex act, not having sex, then quitting the game (without saving) after seeing I'm trying to collect the money.

 

And my load order. It's pretty stable save for random, unreproduceable crashes caused by papyrus memory dumps.

 

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0a]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0b]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
09  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0A  SPIKE.esm
0B  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0C  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.0.]
0D  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.24]
0E  SexLabAroused.esm
0F  HentaiPregnancy.esm
10  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
11  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
12  SplashofRain.esp
13  AOS.esp
14  ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
15  Thundering Shouts.esp
16  mintylightningmod.esp
17  MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
18  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
19  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
1A  StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
1B  TradeBarter.esp
1C  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 1.00]
1D  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
1E  CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
1F  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
20  daymoyl.esp
21  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
22  Hunterborn.esp
23  Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
24  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
25  MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
26  MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
27  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.1.3]
28  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.1.3]
29  WetandCold.esp
2A  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
2B  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
2C  Footprints.esp
2D  Footprints - Ash.esp
2E  RaceMenu.esp
2F  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
30  RaceMenuOverlays.esp
31  SkyUI.esp
32  iHUD.esp
33  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
34  BoundArmors.esp
35  Cloaks.esp
36  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
37  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]
38  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3]
39  DragonbornArmorFix.esp
3A  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
3B  Immersive Weapons.esp
3C  Remodeled Armor.esp
3D  Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
3E  Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
3F  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
40  TGLNordArmor.esp
41  Dr_Bandolier.esp
42  BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp  [Version 4.0]
43  BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
44  BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight.esp
45  HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp  [Version 2.0]
46  HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp
47  HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp
48  DeadlyDragons.esp
49  SkyRe_Main.esp
4A  SkyRe_Combat.esp
4B  SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp
4C  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
4D  SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
4E  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
4F  SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp
50  SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
51  SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
52  SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp  [Version v6.1.2]
53  AngrimApprentice.esp
54  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
55  JobsofSkyrim.esp
56  Northern Bathhouses.esp
57  morerealisticcarrying.esp
58  Weighted Items.esp
59  AchieveThat.esp
5A  AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
5B  Arachnophobia.esp
5C  ArchmageTolfdir.esp
5D  Babette.esp
5E  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Book Covers Skyrim.esp
5F  BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
60  BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
61  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
62  Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
63  Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
64  Book Covers Dragonborn.esp
65  Civil War Overhaul.esp
66  Distant Detail.esp
67  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
68  Headtracking.esp
69  LaFemmeLycana.esp
6A  Rebirth Monster.esp
6B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
6C  HPSoulGemBirth.esp
6D  SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp
6E  Convenient Horses.esp
6F  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
70  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
71  BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
72  TimingIsEverything.esp
73  torches for realistic lighting.esp
74  TwoRings.esp
75  xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
76  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
77  icefloes.esp
78  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
79  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
7A  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
7B  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
7C  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
7D  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
7E  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
7F  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
80  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
81  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
82  AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp
83  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
84  ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
85  ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp
86  ELFXEnhancer.esp
87  PrivateNeeds.esp
88  PrivateNeeds-Sexlab.esp
89  SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp  [Version 1.2.]
8A  Predator Vision.esp
8B  Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
8C  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.2]
8D  BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp
8E  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
8F  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
90  dovahkiinrelax.esp
91  Startingspells begone.esp
92  ImprovedSneakDetection.esp
93  NoSneakAttackSound.esp
94  DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
95  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
96  ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp
97  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
98  SGHairPack06.esp
99  SGHairPack04.esp
9A  SGHairPack01.esp
9B  SGHairPack03.esp
9C  SGHairPack05.esp
9D  SGHairPack02.esp
9E  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 8]
9F  BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
A0  BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
A1  3DNPC.esp
A2  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
A3  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
A4  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
A5  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
A6  Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
A7  PrivateNeeds-RND.esp
A8  RND_USKP-Patch.esp
A9  Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
AA  Follower Trap Safety.esp
AB  moveitLWT.esp
AC  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
AD  CharGen ECE Morphs.esp
AE  TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
AF  LoversComfort.esp
B0  LoversHook.esp
B1  SexLab Submit.esp
B2  SexLab Solutions.esp
B3  SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
B4  SexLab RND.esp
B5  SexLabMatchMaker.esp  [Version 5]
B6  SexLabUtil1.esp
B7  Remove Recurring Messages.esp
B8  No More Glowing Edges.esp
B9  RealisticWaterTwo.esp
BA  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
BB  SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp
BC  Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
BD  Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
BE  Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
BF  Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp
C0  warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp
C1  Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp
C2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
C3  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
C4  ReProccer.esp
C5  ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp
C6  ReProccerDragonborn.esp
C7  MoonlightTalesLaFemmeLycana20Update.esp

 

 

 

 

Papyrus.0.zip

Posted

Probably script lag, looking at your mod list. You have Convenient Horses, it has a tool you can activate in its mcm menu to check your script latency... If your average latency is over 50ms sexlab 1.24 is unlikely to work in most situations. Get rid of sexlab 1.24 and update to the lastest development version, it works perfectly 99% of the times.

Posted

Thanks for the help. I used the tool and had between 100ms and 120ms just standing still with 250ms-270ms with attempting a sex scene. I went ahead and updated the sexlab framework to 1.29b and loaded using the save that had the cleaned sexlab. Using the convenient horses tool again, I went down to having between 60ms and 90ms idling and between 80ms and 110ms when attempting a sex scene. However, I think Radiant Prostitution broke with the new SL. Using RP sex scenes are unreliable and can have nothing happen like before or have the other participant walk away instead of just standing there, or have us both jump and turn invisible and stuck, or have us both turn invisible and have invisible sex. (I waited until sexlab said everything was updated). When jumping and turning invisible with nothing happening, my camera then crashes to the floor where I can wander around the tavern, cast spells and shoot arrows. Melee is ineffective.

 

HOWEVER, using matchmaker, sex scenes seem to now work 100% of the time (Haven't tested most sex scenes though). If this is any sort of foreshadowing, then perhaps the addons not made by Ashal may be broken until updated. Which kinda sucks but I'll get by.

 

Oh, and before the update, matchmaker wouldn't even work. So thanks a bunch. :D

Posted

Well its true I'm experiencing some 'jumps' with some mods, like some animations arent triggering. Make youre you have enabled 'pre-sex foreplay' in sexlab, I experienced less 'jump' issues with that. Most of the mods are working fine for me (which is more than I can say of sexlab 1.24), but probably we'll have to deal with some uncompatibilities until sexlab 1.30 (official release). Mods that I currently use and are working for me with 1.29: Sexlab Defeat, Romance, Aroused, Lovers Comfort (didnt test a lot though), TDF Aggresive Prostitution (some errors if you rush the dialogue options so far), Sexlab Cumshot. I have Creatures, Radiant Prostitution and HentaiPregnancy installed but didnt test them yet with 1.29. True that the last version of Radiant Prositution (0.81) always gave me more problems than 0.61, but being a work in progress in any case, it's something I can deal with because the mod is just awesome ;)

Posted

So, my dragonborn of level 11 comes back to whiterun to get a little bit of R&R from the Bannered Mare after a couple days of trying not to die from quest dungeons. So, using Radiant Prostitution, she goes on call with Hulda and finds her first customer for the night. The two head up to her rented room aaaaaaand. Nothing. I press the dialogue option to initiate the sex, but both actors just stand there, clothes on. I talk to the customer again and apparently I'm already asking for the money.

 

So I went through the troubleshooting steps. Cleaning & Reseting Sexlab didn't do anything. Everything is updated. So, I saw there was a problem with NMM and a readme option. So I reinstalled Sexlab and all its addons with the buggy option unchecked. I ran BOSS which didn't do anything with the sexlab addons, so I went into Wrye Bash and set them above the bash patch. Closing that, I went into FNIS and ran GenerateForUsers. Oddly enough, there were no errors, yet when I use the 'Consistency Check' there's no feedback but an empty newline. Going back in game, I try again. Lo and behold, the animations worked. Once. And it was so horribly misaligned that I pressed the ] key to realign the scene and my character went to the opposite side of the inn than where the scene was taking place. So, I went into MCM sexlab and stopped all animations. Then a new animation started and I stopped that too. Then I reloaded, trying to see if I did something wrong or if I should try manually realigning the characters with the other keys.

 

However, the animations no longer worked. Again. I tried to save, quit skyrim, reload. Nothing worked. Please help me.

 

The below Papyrus log is of my last effort. All it is, is me starting Skyrim, loading the last save game, pressing the dialogue option to start the sex act, not having sex, then quitting the game (without saving) after seeing I'm trying to collect the money.

 

And my load order. It's pretty stable save for random, unreproduceable crashes caused by papyrus memory dumps.

 

 

00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0a]
03  Dawnguard.esm
04  Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0b]
05  HearthFires.esm
06  Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
07  Dragonborn.esm
08  Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp  [Version 2.0.0]
09  ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
0A  SPIKE.esm
0B  ZaZAnimationPack.esm
0C  Devious Devices - Assets.esm  [Version 2.0.]
0D  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.24]
0E  SexLabAroused.esm
0F  HentaiPregnancy.esm
10  Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.2]
11  Chesko_Frostfall.esp
12  SplashofRain.esp
13  AOS.esp
14  ClimatesOfTamriel-Sound.esp
15  Thundering Shouts.esp
16  mintylightningmod.esp
17  MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
18  StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
19  StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
1A  StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
1B  TradeBarter.esp
1C  AMatterOfTime.esp  [Version 1.00]
1D  Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
1E  CalienteVanillaArmorTweaks.esp
1F  Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
20  daymoyl.esp
21  Dual Sheath Redux.esp
22  Hunterborn.esp
23  Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
24  Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
25  MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
26  MF_SpectatorCrowds.esp
27  Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp  [Version v6.1.3]
28  Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp  [Version v6.1.3]
29  WetandCold.esp
2A  WetandCold - Ashes.esp
2B  DYNAVISION Dynamic Depth of Field.esp
2C  Footprints.esp
2D  Footprints - Ash.esp
2E  RaceMenu.esp
2F  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
30  RaceMenuOverlays.esp
31  SkyUI.esp
32  iHUD.esp
33  AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp
34  BoundArmors.esp
35  Cloaks.esp
36  Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
37  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.3]
38  1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp  [Version 2.3]
39  DragonbornArmorFix.esp
3A  hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
3B  Immersive Weapons.esp
3C  Remodeled Armor.esp
3D  Remodeled Armor - Dawnguard.esp
3E  Remodeled Armor - Dragonborn.esp
3F  Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp
40  TGLNordArmor.esp
41  Dr_Bandolier.esp
42  BandolierForNPCMasterFile.esp  [Version 4.0]
43  BandolierForNPCsWIC_V2.esp
44  BandolierForNPCsCheaperBandoliers_BalancedWeight.esp
45  HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp  [Version 2.0]
46  HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp
47  HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp
48  DeadlyDragons.esp
49  SkyRe_Main.esp
4A  SkyRe_Combat.esp
4B  SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp
4C  SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp
4D  SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp
4E  SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp
4F  SkyRe_HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonbornPatch.esp
50  SkyRe_Survivalism.esp
51  SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
52  SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp  [Version v6.1.2]
53  AngrimApprentice.esp
54  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
55  JobsofSkyrim.esp
56  Northern Bathhouses.esp
57  morerealisticcarrying.esp
58  Weighted Items.esp
59  AchieveThat.esp
5A  AlwaysPickUpBooks.esp
5B  Arachnophobia.esp
5C  ArchmageTolfdir.esp
5D  Babette.esp
5E  BetterQuestObjectives.esp
----> Delinquent MASTER: Book Covers Skyrim.esp
5F  BetterQuestObjectives-SkyRePatch.esp
60  BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
61  Book Covers Skyrim.esp
62  Book Covers Dawnguard.esp
63  Book Covers Hearthfire.esp
64  Book Covers Dragonborn.esp
65  Civil War Overhaul.esp
66  Distant Detail.esp
67  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
68  Headtracking.esp
69  LaFemmeLycana.esp
6A  Rebirth Monster.esp
6B  Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
6C  HPSoulGemBirth.esp
6D  SkyFalls - Distant Waterfall Overhaul.esp
6E  Convenient Horses.esp
6F  TheChoiceIsYours.esp
70  TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
71  BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp
72  TimingIsEverything.esp
73  torches for realistic lighting.esp
74  TwoRings.esp
75  xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
76  aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
77  icefloes.esp
78  EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
79  ELFX - Exteriors.esp
7A  ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
7B  ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
7C  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp
7D  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp
7E  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp
7F  Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp
80  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
81  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
82  AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp
83  ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp
84  ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp
85  ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-8.esp
86  ELFXEnhancer.esp
87  PrivateNeeds.esp
88  PrivateNeeds-Sexlab.esp
89  SkyRealism - Time and Travel.esp  [Version 1.2.]
8A  Predator Vision.esp
8B  Brevi_MoonlightTales.esp
8C  ESFCompanions.esp  [Version 0.3.2]
8D  BetterQuestObjectives-MoonlightPatch.esp
8E  Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
8F  DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
90  dovahkiinrelax.esp
91  Startingspells begone.esp
92  ImprovedSneakDetection.esp
93  NoSneakAttackSound.esp
94  DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp
95  The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp
96  ReadAndLearnSpeechcraft.esp
97  Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
98  SGHairPack06.esp
99  SGHairPack04.esp
9A  SGHairPack01.esp
9B  SGHairPack03.esp
9C  SGHairPack05.esp
9D  SGHairPack02.esp
9E  TheEyesOfBeauty.esp  [Version 8]
9F  BS-TheHag_Overlays.esp
A0  BS-TheHag_WarPaints.esp
A1  3DNPC.esp
A2  RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
A3  RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
A4  RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
A5  RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
A6  Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
A7  PrivateNeeds-RND.esp
A8  RND_USKP-Patch.esp
A9  Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
AA  Follower Trap Safety.esp
AB  moveitLWT.esp
AC  dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Medium.esp
AD  CharGen ECE Morphs.esp
AE  TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
AF  LoversComfort.esp
B0  LoversHook.esp
B1  SexLab Submit.esp
B2  SexLab Solutions.esp
B3  SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
B4  SexLab RND.esp
B5  SexLabMatchMaker.esp  [Version 5]
B6  SexLabUtil1.esp
B7  Remove Recurring Messages.esp
B8  No More Glowing Edges.esp
B9  RealisticWaterTwo.esp
BA  RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
BB  SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp
BC  Blacksmithforge water fix Vanilla.esp
BD  Blacksmithforge water fix DG.esp
BE  Blacksmithforge water fix DB.esp
BF  Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Texture 2.esp
C0  warburg's 3d paper world map - dawnguard.esp
C1  Warburg's 3D Paper World Map - Dragonborn.esp
C2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
C3  Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
C4  ReProccer.esp
C5  ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp
C6  ReProccerDragonborn.esp
C7  MoonlightTalesLaFemmeLycana20Update.esp

 

 

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