Constant crashing, and I'm getting sick of it.

[...0...]

At least your in the right forum which have alot to do with fucking:P

[Rayblue]

I recently got a FPS boost and a CTD-free playthrough by removing some high-poly meshes, asides from optimizing textures. This and using the proper uExterior/uInterior settings (lesson: never make them small as 6 and 1 respectively) helped cut down stutter.

[hryh23k9823u]

I came myself at a point of 'max stability', when I can pretty much say my game is 99.99% stable. Now instead of cdt's I 'only' get lags, somewhat alliviated with HiAlgo. I have two profiles right now, the fat stable one I mention, and this one plus sexlab mods which is a pain in the ass (in both cases I run multiply spawn/npc mods with Wet and Cold). No kidding (there are 4 or 5 plugins here not really activated, but this comes right from the last modlist.txt so w/e):

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

ApachiiHair.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Evil Lair of Hydra.esm

GameOfThronesArmors.esm

ImmersiveContent.esm

JSwords.esm

Lootification.esm

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm

SexLab.esm

SexLabAroused.esm

SGHairPackBase.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

SPIKE.esm

WinterholdDestruction.esm

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Chesko_Frostfall.esp

Morning Fogs.esp

Rainbows.esp

SplashofRain.esp

AOS.esp

AOS_DGDB Patch.esp

Darker Nights_bl.esp

ImmersiveContentExteriorLighting.esp

Del_ConditionalCombatMusic.esp

FantasySoundtrackProject.esp

VanillaReducedTextures.esp

VanillaReducedTexturesDG.esp

VanillaReducedTexturesDB.esp

Skyrim Shadow Striping Fix.esp

_admod.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowerRes_HighSpawn.esp

AMatterOfTime.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Bestiality_NudeBears.esp

BlackHole.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

BorderSense.esp

EnhancedWetnessandPuddles.esp

GuessDistance.esp

Hunterborn.esp

Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

Immersive Battles.esp

Immersive Brigands.esp

Immersive Dawnguard.esp

Immersive Dragonborn.esp

Immersive Factions.esp

Immersive Mercenaries.esp

Immersive Patrols.esp

Immersive Travelers.esp

Immersive Werewolves.esp

ImmersiveSpells.esp

LoversComfort.esp

Point The Way.esp

ShootingStars.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

SwiftPotion.esp

WetandCold.esp

Character Creation Overhaul.esp

JSwords_Load_Screens.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Headtrack Crosshair.esp

AMB Glass Variants Lore.esp

Aries&Tombstone.esp

AronsMechaDragons.esp

Bigger Badder Lich King Version 2.0.esp

Black Overlord Armor Set.esp

BosmerArmorMATY743.esp

calyps-razorarmor.esp

Cloaks.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

Evil MasterMind Armor.esp

Ghosu - Hobbit.esp

Ghosu - Weapon Pack 1.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

imp_helm.esp

JetheadArmors.esp

JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp

Legionary-Vanguard-Armor-MATY743.esp

lilithsarmor.esp

Lore Weapon Expansion.esp

LostLongSwords.esp

Luddemann.esp

mancika_templarset.esp

MaskofBlades.esp

Mavari Armor.esp

Medusa and Drakul Armors.esp

nordicrangerarmor.esp

Northman Armours - Credo.esp

Ordinator Armor.esp

Plate Armours - Credo.esp

PrvtIBearclawHelm.esp

RegentSword.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp

Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp

Shadow Ranger Gear by Natterforme.esp

SkaalHeavyArmor.esp

Skyrim Knights.esp

TERA Weapons.esp

Troll Hunter Armor by Hothtrooper44.esp

Wandererarmor.esp

WVExpansion.esp

WWW.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

AOS_SkyRe Patch.esp

AOS_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.esp

CornerofTheSkyrim.esp

DA_Skyship.esp

DA_Skyship_Dragonborn.esp

Ebonvale.esp

Immersive Darkwater crossing.esp

Immersive Dawnstar.esp

Immersive Dragon Bridge.esp

Immersive Falkreath.esp

Immersive Ivarstead.esp

Immersive Karthwasten.esp

Immersive Kynesgrove.esp

Immersive Morthal.esp

Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp

Immersive Riverwood.esp

Immersive Rorikstead.esp

Immersive Shors stone.esp

Immersive Stonehills.esp

Immersive Whiterun.esp

Inconsequential NPCs.esp

Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

OBIS.esp

OBISDB.esp

SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp

Syerscote.esp

Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp

360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

CCO - Oblivion Carry Weights.esp

CCO - Permanent Birthsigns.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

CutthroatMerchantsHard.esp

Differently Ebony.esp

DiversePriests.esp

FireAndIceOverhaul.esp

AOS_FIO Patch.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Headtracking.esp

mjhReducedGoldRewards.esp

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp

SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp

SexLab Romance.esp

SexLabNudeCreatures.esp

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

wizDynamicThings.esp

skyforgedWeapons.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

ExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp

RiftenThiefEdition.esp

WhiterunAlivePiano.esp

DawnofWindhelm.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

AOS_COT-DG Patch.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

SaturationBoost.esp

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp

Midas Magic Expanded.esp

Dwemerverse - Dwarven Magic Package.esp

Phenderix's Magic Evolved.esp

SmartCast_1_0.esp

ForgottenMagic_Redone.esp

DeadlyCombat.esp

DeadlyCombat_GiantsAIFix.esp

DragonCombatOverhaul.esp

DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

Locational Damage.esp

TKDodge.esp

CCO - Dynamic Skill Progression.esp

No Skill Limit.esp

Sit Anywhere.esp

Beards.esp

SGHairPack01.esp

SGHairPack02.esp

SGHairPack03.esp

SGHairPack04.esp

SGHairPack05.esp

SGHairPack06.esp

SG Hair 220 AllinTwo.esp

navetsea female face preset.esp

3DNPC.esp

RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

RND_SkyMoMod-Patch.esp

RND_USKP-Patch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp

CCO - Diverse Races And Genders.esp

DeadlyMutilation.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

CharGen Morphs.esp

CharGen ECE Morphs.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

rcrnShaders.esp

RCRNvolumetric.esp

EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

ELFX - Exteriors.esp

ELFXEnhancer.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Dawnguard.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Dawnguard.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Dragonborn.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

AOS_RWT Patch.esp

AOS_WetandCold Patch.esp

SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Automatic Variants.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

ASIS.esp

DeadlyCombat_ASIS_Patch.esp

LLI.esp

ReProccer.esp

SexLabDefeat.esp

SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_GameofThronesArmors.esp

mergedloot.esp

 

 

 

 

[Uno]

Ok, I'm intrigued now...which are the good stuff to pick from SMIM package? I'm downloading the lastest version rigth noaw.

 

@Evasiadutch: Some of that info from ENB documentation is old as my grandma, you should reconsider it, for example the HDT/ENB conflict.

[ballsy]

You'll need perseverance. That's all I have to say, really. 

 

I spent the first half of this year pretty much just troubleshooting Skyrim during my free time. It was hard as fuck, but it helped me grow as someone on the user-end of Skyrim. I feel that fucking up your install is fairly necessary for learning the ways of perfecting your game. I've probably had just under 5 complete re-installs ever since getting the game in 2011. 

 

Neovalen's guide here http://wiki.step-project.com/User:Neovalen/Skyrim_Revisited was the first to teach me anything about TES5Edit that wasn't just cleaning your mods. Examine the patterns for his patches, looking at how he resolves conflicts between mods. Learn the CK, even if briefly. It'll make a lot more sense when you're looking at mods and whatever data is within.

 

Start making your own patches. Make the changes reversible by taking advantage on how packages work in Wrye Bash. Use the description box to record important information on mods (is the plugin clean? are the contents edited from the original package?). Use marker packages to organize packages in Wrye. 

 

There's a lot more to say, but I can't get it all typed out since doing so would be equivalent to writing a book. Go to that link. Learn the CK. Read STEP if you haven't already. You just gotta keep going. I learn something new about stability and Skyrim at least once every few days. My esm/esp count totals to 219 and I have just over 600 packages in Wrye. The setup runs stable and I now have a very, very systemized approach to finding the root cause of reproducible CTDs. I create replacement esps to resolve mod compatibilities in order to avoid the 255 limit, despite that being a shitty choice in comparison to a patch. 

 

I would've never imagined myself doing what I just described above a year ago on this same day. Take a break from Skyrim if you need to, but know that you will attain knowledge and practice on stability if you stick it out long enough. I've had plenty of those "fuck this game" moments, but I'm glad I put up with it.

 

Being a modder with CK knowledge will help fucktons with troubleshooting your own install, and having good user-end knowledge and practice will help in setting you up in becoming a great modder. It's a win-win.   

 

 

 

Still making lokirs tomb, lol. Dem compatibility patches take forever.

 

 

[shinji72]

Wet&cold + footprints + player headtracking these combo is considered an heavy tool on papyrus. Saddly I can renounce any of them!

 

You can run wet&Cold with no problem but with some  judgement. 

It depends on what other mod you use, of course. If you have instability and think wet&cold could be aggravating the situation, go to the MCM menu. Disamble the checks for "near heart source" and "under cover". On the same page, raise to the maximum the refresh bar (12 seconds).

You will lose some minor functionality (PC will keep their breath even when near a campfire). But this should relieve you papyrus...

[hryh23k9823u]

merged and bashed patches also helps a lot into stability

but I know the feeling, I can't live without wet n cold, and player headrtacking (i dont care about footprints tho), but its demonstrated that they both can get along with heavy loadorders. Difficult, but they can indeed.

[shinji72]

 

The glitch you see in your menu is from Safetyload. Turn it off outside of load screens, it should also stabilize your game somewhat when not in a load screen to do so if you have a lot of crashes right now. If you don't know how to do this, download the 1.1-test version and overwrite the 1.2 version you have now, it is the exact same just the basic setting is different for when it should be active.

 

 

Thank you Vixen!

Because sometimes, i did see the little multicolored triangles in the menus.

Nice to know it's caused by safetyload (which is great by the way).

[cornbreadtm]

Ok, I'm intrigued now...which are the good stuff to pick from SMIM package? I'm downloading the lastest version rigth noaw.

 

@Evasiadutch: Some of that info from ENB documentation is old as my grandma, you should reconsider it, for example the HDT/ENB conflict.

 

It's not that simple. But to put it in an easy to understand way you only want 2 of the improved meshes in any one area at once. So if you get the forge and the signs you're good. but If there are like 5 improvements at once... well first of you'll notice a loading difference which is an indicator of the fact that the game is loading more data. Safety load removes the infinite load screens but like several idiots (lets be honest if your game had infinite load screens and you put safety load in without removing any of your texture/mesh packs you're an idiot) on the Nexus have stated safety load will just make you CTD in the load screen if you have too much to load. Obviously if that happens you want to reduce the amount of objects you have modified in that cell. SO pretty much either you just go through the list and pick a few that you think look nice without going over broad or you go overboard, have problems, and end up having to go back to step one.

 

I've personally had problems loading my game at the sky forge when I used the SMIM forge mesh. I've seen others complain about the same problem so I'm sure its not just me but I've stopped using it since then.

I love the animated barrels and the improved skeletons in draugr ruins. Both of these are seen often and have big noticeable improvements. The chains mesh upgrades are awesome but its rare that I stop and look at some chain so I don't use them (no point in using something if your not even going to look at it right).

I don't use any meshes that are common in inns do to the fact that a lot of mods add npcs (Immersive NPCs <3) to them and I rather have trouble loading the extra bodies and not some table...

 

SMIM is literally my first and favorite mod from the Nexus but It has gotten big over the years like a pet sabercat, so you can't play the same games with it that you use to without getting bitten.