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Hi, 

I have a problem with EC+, hatchlings are invisible in my game. 
I have seen that on EC+ thread very few people had the same problem but there is no fix there i.e. they got responses that either the hatchlings are very small or that they did not see that kind of issue before, and the people with this issue did not respond afterwards.

How can I fix this issue?

 

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Posted
3 hours ago, traison said:

My first guess would be that their skin (armor) does not include their race record.

Okay, and how do I check it? do you know how it could be fixed?

Posted (edited)
  1. Start the game.
  2. Find an invisible hatchling.
  3. Open the console and click on it. More Informative Console may help.
  4. Note down its reference or actor form id.
  5. Open xEdit, load your loadorder as-is.
  6. Locate the NPC_ record for the hatchling.
  7. Note down its race (RNAM) form id.
  8. Locate the associated skin armor (WNAM).
  9. Go through each associated ARMA record (MODL).
  10. Inpsect the race (RNAM) and Additional Races entries and make sure the hatchling's race is included.

This is all assuming the hatchlings use a custom race.

Edited by traison
Posted
2 hours ago, traison said:
  1. Start the game.
  2. Find an invisible hatchling.
  3. Open the console and click on it. More Informative Console may help.
  4. Note down its reference or actor form id.
  5. Open xEdit, load your loadorder as-is.
  6. Locate the NPC_ record for the hatchling.
  7. Note down its race (RNAM) form id.
  8. Locate the associated skin armor (WNAM).
  9. Go through each associated ARMA record (MODL).
  10. Inpsect the race (RNAM) and Additional Races entries and make sure the hatchling's race is included.

This is all assuming the hatchlings use a custom race.

Okay, so I went through and the race is indeed custom, and it uses Skyrim's "SkinChaurus" Armor for WNAM

Hatchlings record:
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This is Hatchlings Race:
image.thumb.png.5c23a3084a22545685aeddbd63c671e3.png

So what Should I do create Copy the Skyrim's Armor entry into EC+ esp in Armor section and add hatchlings race there?

 

Posted (edited)
26 minutes ago, traison said:

You missed step 9 and 10.

Sorry, I checked it, but forgot to write about it.
The WNAM - SkinChaurus does not have the Hatchlings race associated, but even theu, how could I? I mean this is Skyrim.esm record, I believe we don't edit these.
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Except that, there are no other races? I don't understand full what You meant. (I am not a Backend nor Frontend modder so my technical knowladge is not really big)

Edited by VseTmirykS
Posted (edited)
38 minutes ago, traison said:

You missed step 9 and 10.

Also these are full records:

Hatchling (NPC)
https://imgur.com/a/q25BoWE

Hatchling(Race)
https://imgur.com/ZtHio7Q

SkinChaurus(WNAM) record - image, it was small enough to upload directly

 

Spoiler

image.thumb.png.2db528dba8073b4801a01e92ba8d14c1.png



And as from what you've told me, to my non-expert eye everything seemed ok.

Meanwhile I tried copying the WNAM record to Armor Records of EC+ and changing the Race to Chaurus Hatchling but it didn't work or I have made samething wrong

Edited by VseTmirykS
Posted

That's the ARMO record. The races are defined in the ARMA records. See step 9 again.

 

If the ARMA records are also defined in Skyrim.esm, as in, not modified by EC+ then that's your problem. In that case, copy the ARMA records as overrides into EC+'s esm/esl/esp and make the necessary edits there.

Posted (edited)
23 minutes ago, traison said:

That's the ARMO record. The races are defined in the ARMA records. See step 9 again.

 

If the ARMA records are also defined in Skyrim.esm, as in, not modified by EC+ then that's your problem. In that case, copy the ARMA records as overrides into EC+'s esm/esl/esp and make the necessary edits there.

Okay, Thanks for the help, I tried many things, and I have managed to "fix" it. 
The unexpected effect is that the Chaurus Hatchlings may have fun with the PC - to prevent this I assume there was the race.
After really long editing of the esp I came up with two things:
1) weight record for the Chaurus Hatchling was set to 100.00 - this effected even in testing NPC Chaurus to be invisible, when I changed it to 50.0 as in normal chaurus NPC from Skyrim.esm records, the test object was visible again.
2) something is up with the Hatchling Race, since even though it is practically the same a chaurus race, it makes the Hatchlings invisible. 
I dont get it.

Anyways, I will try to find another fix tommorow, which will allow the original mod to run.

Edited by VseTmirykS
Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, VseTmirykS said:

Okay, Thanks for the help, I tried many things, and I have managed to "fix" it. 
The unexpected effect is that the Chaurus Hatchlings may have fun with the PC - to prevent this I assume there was the race.
After really long editing of the esp I came up with two things:
1) weight record for the Chaurus Hatchling was set to 100.00 - this effected even in testing NPC Chaurus to be invisible, when I changed it to 50.0 as in normal chaurus NPC from Skyrim.esm records, the test object was visible again.
2) something is up with the Hatchling Race, since even though it is practically the same a chaurus race, it makes the Hatchlings invisible. 
I dont get it.

Anyways, I will try to find another fix tommorow, which will allow the original mod to run.

 

The custom race is most likely to prevent SL and related mods from doing their thing yes - that's what I used it for in a similar mod I made. Edit: And yes I also ran into the invisible "hatchling" issue.

 

Also, you could send me the esp (not the entire mod) and I'll have a look at it.

Edited by traison

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