Odd Problem w/ female player character starting animations

[zepidell]

I decided to add a few mods to my setup that was working fine,
Babo Dialogue, and Prison Alternative. And all their dependencies, ZaP8, modified sexlab aroused, etc. (reran FNIS+Nemesis according to the guide here which has worked fine)

After starting a new game I noticed that the only animation that sexlab would play was a nibbles fingering animation. Tried everything I could think of to solve it, nothing worked, and eventually i uninstalled all the mods I had installed today to get back to where I was before, but now the same problem happens in what used to be a perfectly fine enviroment, on completely new saves/games. Sexlab will only play that 1 specific animation, or if i remove it, nothing happens.

Some troubleshooting later, I decided to try solo animations (they worked), then I changed gender in racemenu to male, and now animations work as expected. Switching back to female and again, things work as expected. However I now have a problem I didn't have before. Anytime I start a new game as a female character, I have to racemenu to a male, start a scene, and only after starting a scene as a male can I swap back to a female playable character and then things "just work" again.

Anyone know wtf happened here?

Edit: I noticed that the solo animations playing when this is happening are male solo animations, and not female.

[PeterMartyr]

Try running either FNIS or Nemesis,  but not both,  a mountain cannot have two tigers. 

[zepidell]

3 minutes ago, PeterMartyr said:

Try running either FNIS or Nemesis,  but not both,  a mountain cannot have two tigers. 

I tried doing one and the other, didn't seem to change anything from having both running.

I'm pretty sure sexlab is just marking my characters as something weird upon creation. Male solo animations, normal female on female animations, only plays a single female on male animation, and forces me (female) into the role that usually would be taken by the male in that scene. Only after changing gender to male, starting a scene, then swapping back to female do things works correctly.

[Dorabella]

6 hours ago, zepidell said:

I tried doing one and the other

 

Does the report of FNIS , report errors (Warning) ? Also run LOOT to optimize the loading order . Remember that some mods depend on ZAP . If you have something that requires ZAP and you removed it, it should be reinstalled, or , the mod that requires Zap should be removed

 

When running an animation, check in Sexlab\setting if the roles are not reversed , if so try reversing them . It should be an automatic thing , something switched roles 

 

If you have a save that predates the installation/uninstallation of the mods you added , use that , check that everything is working correctly , afterwards ,export all the various exportable configurations , start a new batch , when MCM has loaded everything, install sexlab , and import the previously exported configuration 

[zepidell]

6 hours ago, ?????? 1627 said:

 

Does the report of FNIS , report errors (Warning) ? Also run LOOT to optimize the loading order . Remember that some mods depend on ZAP . If you have something that requires ZAP and you removed it, it should be reinstalled, or , the mod that requires Zap should be removed

 

When running an animation, check in Sexlab\setting if the roles are not reversed , if so try reversing them . It should be an automatic thing , something switched roles 

 

If you have a save that predates the installation/uninstallation of the mods you added , use that , check that everything is working correctly , afterwards ,export all the various exportable configurations , start a new batch , when MCM has loaded everything, install sexlab , and import the previously exported configuration 

FNIS has 3 warnings, 2 for unexpected paths which should be fine since im running it through MO2 w/ custom output folder, and another for too many animations.
Ran nemesis again afterwards, noticed that my windows real time protection was fucking with it causing it to crash etc. fixed that.

I have ZAP installed again 

Started a brand new game, female PC. Started a scene with matchmaker BEFORE running SLAL with a male NPC and nothing happens. Starting a scene with a female NPC works fine, starting a scene solo works fine (thought its male animations only), starting a scene with male + female NPCS and not including my PC works fine. After running SLAL the only animation that will play is nibbles anal fingering between me (female PC) and a male NPC, its tagged as MF, but sexlab options only show 2 male posistions avaiable, my PC takes the posistion of dom and fingers the male, no way to swap posistions, nothing works. SL does recognize my character as FEMALE in the menus, though it seems to be treating me as male for animations, but also not letting me do any animations with male NPCs besides the one.

The only way I found to fix this is, opening racemenu, switching to male PC, starting any scene, and then swapping back to female PC. I also noticed that if i choose Male-Male scene it will play that nibbles animation only again, but if i do a male(PC)-female(NPC) everything functions normally. Either way only need to do this once, Once back to female PC sexlab works perfectly no problems.

I just don't understand why this is the case, and why my game was working perfectly fine until i installed a half dozen mods, and why uninstalling them did not fix the problem, and the problem persists even in completely fresh saves/games.

Im not sure what the problem exactly is if it only goes away after starting a scene as a male, then swapping back to female. And why it only effects a freshly created female PC. SL seems to be marking my fresh female playable characters on a new save as some kind of entity that can only have solo/homo sex (as the wrong gender), and the only animation that will work heterosexually is that single nibbles animation, which if not registered then nothing will happen. 

Edited November 13, 2023 by zepidell

[Dorabella]

1 hour ago, zepidell said:

FNIS has 3 warnings, 2 for unexpected paths which should be fine since im running it through MO2 w/ custom output folder, and another for too many animations.

it would be interesting to see it 

 

1 hour ago, zepidell said:

SL does recognize my character as FEMALE in the menus,

Do you happen to have anything that would force the female as transgender?

 

1 hour ago, zepidell said:

I just don't understand why this is the case, and why my game was working perfectly fine until i installed a half dozen mods, and why uninstalling them did not fix the problem, and the problem persists even in completely fresh saves/games.

In fact, it should not . The only logical explanation is that , the removal was not performed cleanly . Did any mod you uninstalled require Falrim Tools or similar ? ( Clean Save )