Tattoo overlays disappear with ZAZ installed

[Omnishade]

I have RapeTattoos and SL Survival that apply random tattoos/overlays to my character after rape. However there seems to be an issue with ZAZ that makes them disappear after a few seconds half the time, and sometimes they don't even appear at all. The author of RapeTats Continued confirms the issue that he also encountered himself. But this is the first playthrough where I have encountered it and I've used the mentioned mods along with ZAZ several times before without any problems(Maybe a tattoos failed once or twice).

 

Any theories why I have this inconsistency now? I don't have more script heavy mods than last time and the versions of the mentioned mods don't seem to matter(Same issue with older versions).
 

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Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
ccBGSSSE001-Fish.esm
ccQDRSSE001-SurvivalMode.esl
ccBGSSSE037-Curios.esl
ccBGSSSE025-AdvDSGS.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp
RSkyrimChildren.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full ESL Version.esm
Heels Sound.esm
Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
ApachiiHair.esm
SexLab.esm
Lux - Resources.esp
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
MajesticMountains_Landscape.esm
LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
Lux Via.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm
Forgotten DungeonsAll.esp
MajesticMountains_Moss.esp
Campfire.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Resources - The Great Cities.esp
CreatureFramework.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm
SAS.esl
High Poly Head.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
Better Dynamic Snow SE - DisableRefs.esm
JSwordsD.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
DynDOLOD.esm
FISS.esp
SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm
KziitdXXXToolset.esp
EquipmentStateCopy&Rename.esl
Temple of the Divines Frescoes (Lanterns).esl
Skyrim - Utility Mod.esm
Shino_Sweater Virgin Detroyer.esl
SkyUI_SE.esp
SkyHUD.esp
MenuMaid2.esp
Butterflies.esp
HD Lods SSE.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main LITE.esp
Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp
Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp
Obsidian Weathers.esp
SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
AOS_ISC_Integration.esp
Better Dynamic Snow.esp
Blowing in the Wind SSE.esp
Blowing in the Wind - SMIM Merged All Patch SSE.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
Blowing in the Wind - ELFX Exteriors Patch SSE.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SmoothJumpINISettings.esp
Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
FNIS.esp
Weather Control.esp
SimplyKnock.esp
female mannequins.esp
IcePenguinWorldMap.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp
Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp
JS Immersive Tripwires SE.esp
Khajiit Merchants Buy Stolen Items.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
KSHairdosSMP.esp
NoRadialBlur.esp
RSChildren.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
Tiwa44 Minidresses Standalone SSE.esp
YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp
UIExtensions.esp
AddItemMenuSE.esp
KaliliesBrows.esp
Tullius Eyes.esp
FMS_FemaleMakeupSuite.esp
Anuketh Tattoo Overlays 1.esp
Neithteam Warpaint.esp
BlendedRoads.esp
FacelightPlus.esp
Koralina's Makeup Tweaks.esp
SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.esp
Maevan2EyeBrows.esp
koralinas_freckles_moles.esp
Koralina's Eyebrows.esp
Brows.esp
YMMP.esp
Devious Devices SE patch.esp
DD_Animation_Overhaul_by_Taki17.esp
SD Cages.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Cooking in Inns.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
JKs Skyrim.esp
Immersive Jewelry.esp
Immersive Jewelry - Lower value.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp
SD Cages - Badassless Patch.esp
Landscape Fixes For Grass Mods.esp
Lux Via - plugin.esp
Skyrim Reborn - Whiterun Hold.esp
HHoSCE Whiterun Undercroft.esp
The Great Town of Karthwasten.esp
The Great Village of Kynesgrove.esp
The Great Town of Shor's Stone.esp
man_kynarethStatue.esp
man_nocturnalShrine.esp
DemonicCreatures.esp
JK's The Winking Skeever.esp
Immersive Encounters.esp
CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp
Particle Patch for ENB.esp
Snowy Roads in Snowy Regions.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
ImmersiveInteractions.esp
LeftHandRings.esp
ImmersiveJewelryXSummermyst.esp
CWIBDSPatch.esp
Summermyst - WACCF Patch.esp
SD Cages - Forgotten Dungeons Patch.esp
[Dint] BDO Dark_Knight 2.esp
HandHammers.esp
HappyLittleTrees.esp
JK's Dragonsreach.esp
BaboInteractiveDia.esp
sanguinesDebauchery.esp
UniqueLocationsRiverwoodForest.esp
Landscape For Grass Mods JK'S Skyrim.esp
Riverwood Forest - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
JK's Bee and Barb.esp
Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
Modpocalypse NPCs (v3) Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp
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Inconsequential NPCs.esp
Lux Via - Less lanterns plugin.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
JKs Skyrim_No Snow Under the Roof_Patch.esp
Northern Bathhouses.esp
JK's The Bannered Mare.esp
Cloaks.esp
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JK's Sleeping Giant Inn.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp
Males of Skyrim.esp
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Jampion NPCs.esp
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JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp
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Bijin AIO.esp
Smoking Torches And Candles.esp
Tullius Hair.esp
sprintSE.esp
Hun Lovaas.esp
Additional Player Voices for Skyrim.esp
SLATE.esp
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sl_triggers.esp
[Army]2B Lingerie 2.esp
[Ashtoreth] Layla Outfit.esp
Assassins Dress.esp
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[Caenarvon] FreeStyle.esp
CharmingHighHeels.esp
Cindersoul [SE].esp
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[COCO] FlyinDance.esp
[COCO] Mulan.esp
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[COCO] Pandora Box.esp
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[Christine] Clockwork.esp
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Dr_Bandolier.esp
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[ELLE] Pixie Dust.esp
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Elvenia.esp
Fancy Dress Set.esp
Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp
Gothic Rebel [SE].esp
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[Ichirou] 44bikini.esp
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Osare Underwear.esp
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[Rektas] Dark Nun [SE].esp
[Rektas] Sanguine [SE].esp
RemakeSkirt.esp
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shoespack.esp
[XuNianA]Code_Vein io.esp
[Zynx][NH] Mini Skirts.esp
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PWComments.esp
SexlabAmmoUnequip.esp
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SexLab_Dialogues.esp
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SexLab Inflation Framework.esp
SexlabLightMeUp.esp
SexLab Pheromones.esp
SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
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SLAdventures.esp
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SLSO.esp
Spank That Ass.esp
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VioLens SE.esp
CondHHW.esp
Celtic_Music_In_Skyrim_SE.esp
NonAutoSkillBooks.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
VtawWardrobe5.esp
RapeTattoos.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
Common Clothes and Armors.esp
Northern Bathhouses_JKs Skyrim_Patch.esp
(Pumpkin)-TEWOBA-TheExpandedWorldofBikiniArmor.esp
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SIC HB patch.esp
fairy.esp
Awesome Potions Simplified by Revoith.esp
VisualAnimatedEnchants.esp
JK's Ivarstead.esp
JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp
Frostfall.esp
Missives.esp
Missives - JK Skyrim.esp
DBM_ELFXExteriors_Patch.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
DBM_JKSkyrim_Patch.esp
DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
DibellaStatuesFixes.esp
Deviously Enslaved.esp
DeviousCarriages.esp
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp
DBM_ISC_Patch.esp
DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
Mortal Weapons & Armor.esp
yps-ImmersivePiercing.esp
BottlesOfSkyrim.esp
Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp
Hunterborn - Leather Tanning.esp
Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
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Spank That Ass - Butter And Animal Fat Balm.esp
BDIC.esp
Fluffworks.esp
Brigandage.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
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RifflingCrime.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
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CBBE.esp
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Apropos2.esp
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ABBA.esp
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Cumshot.esp
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mslDeviousCaptures.esp
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Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
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AnubAnimObj.esp
[Caenarvon] Plegian Dark Mage.esp
BakaMotionData.esp
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ULALPatch.esp
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WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp
Requiem for the Indifferent.esp
xazPrisonOverhaulPatched.esp
Realistic Water Two - Landscape For Grass Mods Patch.esp
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Half Moon Creek.esp
Eli_Halla.esp
LessCharitableNPCs.esp
Lux Via - Halla patch.esp
Lux Via - JK's Skyrim Patch.esp
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Bashed Patch.esp
DynDOLOD.esp
GMsHair aXing.esp
FluffworksMNC - Vanilla Horses.esp
LoreLoadScreen.esp
SL_shrines.esp
HeelsFix.esp

 

[traison]

I am not familiar with these mods, nor have I seen this problem, but RaceMenu is the one providing overlay support to the game these days. If overlays disappear, RM should be queried for what it thinks about it. I'd look through NiOverride.psc for options to list overlays. I'd also save a "broken" character as a RM preset and inspect the preset in notepad - the overlays must be in that file if RM is still aware of them. Basically what I'm saying is, I'd start by determining whether this is a rendering issue, or if something just deleted all overlays.

[Omnishade]

44 minutes ago, traison said:

I am not familiar with these mods, nor have I seen this problem, but RaceMenu is the one providing overlay support to the game these days. If overlays disappear, RM should be queried for what it thinks about it. I'd look through NiOverride.psc for options to list overlays. I'd also save a "broken" character as a RM preset and inspect the preset in notepad - the overlays must be in that file if RM is still aware of them. Basically what I'm saying is, I'd start by determining whether this is a rendering issue, or if something just deleted all overlays.

 

I think I know what the problem is now. I was doing a testrun and the tattoos evenetually registered some time later. It just takes a long time sometimes, but this is good to remember in case they don't register in the future.