Expression stuck/tongue sticking through chin after scene ends

[iFInnaPipe]

So I have looked at a lot of posts and all the usual fixes aren't working. What I have tried to solve the problem so far:

 

1) Tried the player.mfg reset command

2) Quicksave/Quickload

3) Open up showracemenu, then confirm character and exit out of showracemenu

4) Turn off expression and lip sync settings

5) Even quitting the game and restarting doesn't fix it

 

Doesn't happen everytime but have to constantly backtrack to a previous save and hope it doesn't get stuck again. I also have expressive facial expressions and morphs downloaded. Not too sure about some lipsync mod (i think it's a mod from what I read on much older posts?) though. Can't find an updated version of it if there is one

[traison]

Did you analyze the papyrus log?

 

"mfg reset" works for the expression but as far as I know it still requires a fix, ie. it's still broken/missing like it was back in LE and pre-LE. The tongue is most likely a clothing item, whichever mod added and equipped it needs to unequip and remove it. If it's not doing that, you'd have to fix the script(s) yourself. A workaround for the tongue could be to remove it using the console ("removeitem"), just need the formid ("inv" or xEdit).

 

 

[iFInnaPipe]

On 7/30/2023 at 7:58 AM, traison said:

Did you analyze the papyrus log?

 

"mfg reset" works for the expression but as far as I know it still requires a fix, ie. it's still broken/missing like it was back in LE and pre-LE. The tongue is most likely a clothing item, whichever mod added and equipped it needs to unequip and remove it. If it's not doing that, you'd have to fix the script(s) yourself. A workaround for the tongue could be to remove it using the console ("removeitem"), just need the formid ("inv" or xEdit).

 

 

Unfortunately, I'm not too familiar with how that works. I tried to get a log to show up yesterday but couldn't really find it. Internet said something about having a log folder under skyrim SE after changing the ini settings, but I couldn't figure it out. But I will definitely give that a try, appreciate the help!

[traison]

Some people use "opparco mfg command" and as far as I know it doesn't work; it's missing a ton of mfg related script functions. Maybe it was made for a different purpose. The one that does however work is MfgFix-11669-1-5-4-1592988142. The mfg console command doesn't really have anything to do with papyrus scripts, but still.

[ttts1]

5 hours ago, traison said:

Some people use "opparco mfg command" and as far as I know it doesn't work; it's missing a ton of mfg related script functions. Maybe it was made for a different purpose. The one that does however work is MfgFix-11669-1-5-4-1592988142. The mfg console command doesn't really have anything to do with papyrus scripts, but still.

 

This the one?   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669?tab=description

[traison]

20 minutes ago, ttts1 said:

 

This the one?   https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/11669?tab=description

 

File id is in the file name yes: MfgFix-11669-1-5-4-1592988142

 

It seems there's newer versions available than what I use. Never had a reason to upgrade though, or... maybe I do, there are some minor bugs in mfg. I should probably read the changelog.

 

Edit: Does not appear to fix the minor issues I've had.

Edited July 31, 2023 by traison

[iFInnaPipe]

Yea I have MFG Fix installed but it still wouldn't work. Tbh I had a suspicion on what mod was causing the tongue to pop out anyway, so I just went into the files and got rid of it. Haven't had any issues since. Appreciate the help though!

[Arantes90]

On 8/1/2023 at 9:50 PM, iFInnaPipe said:

Yea I have MFG Fix installed but it still wouldn't work. Tbh I had a suspicion on what mod was causing the tongue to pop out anyway, so I just went into the files and got rid of it. Haven't had any issues since. Appreciate the help though!

I have a similar problem.

Mind sharing the mod you got rid of?

 

[iFInnaPipe]

On 10/20/2023 at 2:47 PM, Arantes90 said:

I have a similar problem.

Mind sharing the mod you got rid of?

 

sorry, haven't checked notifications in awhile. I think the mod causing it for me at the time was sexlab survival. Specifically the ahegao expression from it was causing problems, even if I disabled it on the MCM. So I got rid of that file completely from the mod

[arisenpai]

Im having the same issue ...

 

[traison]

18 minutes ago, arisenpai said:

Im having the same issue ...

 

 

When you're seeing the issue with the tongue:

1. Open the console.
2. Select the charcter having the issue, or "prid 14" to select yourself.
3. inv
4. Make a list of all items marked as worn. Perhaps the thing you're looking for is called "tongue" or something equally obvious.
5. Grab the first 2 numbers from its form id, and query your mod manager for which plugin is loaded at that index. That's the source of your problem.
6. Change the version of that mod, or find the script that's not cleaning up after the animation ends and fix it yourself.

When you're seeing the issue with stuck expressions:

1. Use a tool like Notepad++ to search through all pex files in all mods for "SetPhonemeModifier".
2. Query your mod manager for which mods provide the pex files it found. This is your list of suspects.
3. If its not obvious which mod is adding expressions, open the psc files associated with the pex files you found.
4. Analyze their code to find the one that's setting expressions during scenes, but not resetting them to neutral after the scene ends.

Additionally:

1. Make sure you don't have opparco mfg fix. See my post above.
2. Check Papyrus log for mfg and *Phoneme* related errors.
3. Check Papyrus log for any errors coming from the pex files you found previously.

Edited July 19, 2025 by traison