Jotasran Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Not sure what to do with this one. crash-2023-02-20-17-38-05.log
traison Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 Crash occured in racemenu, and po3_Tweaks is in the call stack. Might want to check for updates for the mod providing po3_Tweaks.dll, if I'm not mistaken, that one has had CTD causing bugs in the past.
Jotasran Posted February 20, 2023 Author Posted February 20, 2023 I'm up to date on po3 tweaks... 1.8. I'll post a log with the author and see what he says.
traison Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) RaceMenu version 0.4.16? Edit: Most likely not since the disassembler does not want to go to 1E8668. Edit again: 0.4.16.14 apparently. Edited February 20, 2023 by traison
traison Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) The skee offsets in the call stack are about as vague as they can be. Without indepth analysis and a debugger I can't really tell what they're doing. There is however one more skee offset in the rbp register. If I'm not mistaken this is a pointer to the most recent stack frame? Anyhow, that function does contain some strings: "BodyMorphInterface Diagnostics:" "\t%llu actors morphed" "Reference: %08X (%s) (%lld keys)" "\tMorph: %s (%lld morphs)" etc. So, translating that to English: Do you have something that has something to do with po3_tweaks (ReapplySpellsOnLoad), potentially SPID, a whiterun guard and body morphs? A SPID rule that applies a spell to nearby males that does something with bodymorphs or something along these lines? Edited February 20, 2023 by traison
Jotasran Posted February 20, 2023 Author Posted February 20, 2023 (edited) I got a response from PO3. Quote 20 February 2023, 9:06PM [ 0] 0x7FFC180DEAB4 skee64.dll+001EAB4 [ 1] 0x7FFC180DDA81 skee64.dll+001DA81 [ 2] 0x7FFC180CC3FE skee64.dll+000C3FE [ 3] 0x7FFC180CBF38 skee64.dll+000BF38 [ 4] 0x7FFC180C5DB5 skee64.dll+0005DB5 [ 5] 0x7FFC180D3476 skee64.dll+0013476 [ 6] 0x7FFC18104B97 skee64.dll+0044B97 [ 7] 0x7FFC181049E8 skee64.dll+00449E8 racemenu crash He maintains its not a bug with PO3 Tweaks. 2 hours ago, traison said: So, translating that to English: Do you have something that has something to do with po3_tweaks (ReapplySpellsOnLoad), potentially SPID, a whiterun guard and body morphs? A SPID rule that applies a spell to nearby males that does something with bodymorphs or something along these lines? I don't believe so.. beyond OBody NG perhaps? I"m attaching a second CTD and a mod list/LO. I'll go over it again just in case I'm being dense. 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Falskaar Patch.esp 23D 3DNPC - Vigilant Patch.esp 23E MCoW_CampfirePatch.esp 23F Spellsiphon.esp 240 Spellsiphon - Book at Hrothgar.esp 241 CS_Vayne.esp 242 DBM_CC_RedguardEliteArmamentsHOWPatch.esp 243 AK- Boethiah Alternate.esp 244 DBM_SkyrimSewers_Patch.esp 245 DestructibleDisplayCases.esp 246 OPrivacy.esp 247 DBM_CC_FarmingPatch.esp 248 DBM_CC_MyrwatchPatch.esp 249 ProjectAHO - StartWhenYouWant.esp 24A Emfy Cleric Robes.esp 24B Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp 24C SPERG_ApocalypsePatch.esp 24D VIGILANT-Sewers.esp 24E DragonAgeSpells.esp 24F Spellsiphon - Palm Ward.esp 250 StrangeRunes.esp 251 Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon.esp 252 DBM_CC_Bitter_CuriosAddon.esp 253 DBM_CC_FS_CuriosAddon.esp 254 DBM_CC_Wilds01BackpacksHOWPatch.esp 255 DBM_CC_AADaedricMailHOWPatch.esp 256 DBM_CC_ACArcaneArcherHOWPatch.esp 257 DBM_CC_CB01EliteCrossbowsHOWPatch.esp 258 DBM_CC_FearsomeFistsHOWPatch.esp 259 DBM_CC_ACPlagueOfTheDeadHOWPatch.esp 25A DBM_CC_PotD_CuriosAddon.esp 25B DBM_CC_AADaedricPlateHOWPatch.esp 25C DBM_CC_AADragonscaleHOWPatch.esp 25D DBM_CC_AADwarvenMailHOWPatch.esp 25E DBM_CC_AADwarvenPlateHOWPatch.esp 25F DBM_CC_AAEbonyPlateHOWPatch.esp 260 DBM_CC_AAElvenHunterHOWPatch.esp 261 DBM_CC_AAOrcishScaledHOWPatch.esp 262 DBM_CC_AASilverHOWPatch.esp 263 DBM_CC_CB02ExpCrossbowsHOWPatch.esp 264 DBM_CC_DwMudcrabHOWPatch.esp 265 DBM_CC_HeadsmansCleaverHOWPatch.esp 266 DBM_CC_NixHoundHOWPatch.esp 267 DBM_CC_SpellKnightArmorHOWPatch.esp 268 DBM_CC_AAIronPlateHOWPatch.esp 269 DBM_CC_AALeatherHOWPatch.esp 26A DBM_CC_AAOrcishPlateHOWPatch.esp 26B DBM_CC_AAStalhrimFurHOWPatch.esp 26C DBM_CC_AASteelSoldierHOWPatch.esp 26D DBM_CC_ACArcaneAccessoriesHOWPatch.esp 26E DBM_CC_ACBoneWolfHOWPatch.esp 26F DBM_CC_ArmsOfChaosHOWPatch.esp 270 DBM_CC_CivilWarChampionsHOWPatch.esp 271 DBM_CC_HendraheimPatch.esp 272 DBM_CC_NecromanticGrimoireHOWPatch.esp 273 DBM_CC_NordicJewelryHOWPatch.esp 274 DBM_CC_ShadowfootSanctumPatch.esp 275 DBM_CC_StavesHOWPatch.esp 276 DBM_CC_TundraHomesteadPatch.esp 277 DX Morenn Outfit.esp 278 DBM_CC_VigilEnforcerArmorHOWPatch.esp 279 DBM_CC_Wilds02WildHorsesHOWPatch.esp 27A DBM_CC_Wilds04PetsHOWPatch.esp 27B DBM_CC_Wilds05SaturaliaHOWPatch.esp 27C DVLaSS Skyrim Underside.esp 27D Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp 27E Cloaks_SMP_Patch.esp 27F Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp 280 Gotobed-HearthFires-patch.esp 281 Animated Immersive Weaps.esp 282 OVirginity.esp 283 MoreAdventuresForOstim.esp 284 Obsidian Weathers for Vigilant.esp 285 Vigilant Voiced.esp 286 Modpocalypse NPCs (v3) Moon and Star.esp 287 Modpocalypse NPCs (v3) Project AHO.esp 288 MuJointFixToggleSLandOstim.esp 289 OStimNPCs.esp 28A AnimatedMountedCasting-JA.esp [Version 1] 28B DGA-ArsMSE CompatPatch.esp 28C UndeathFixes - The Cause Patch.esp 28D UndeathFixes - Dynamic Collision Adjustment.esp 28E USMP - RDO patch.esp 28F USMP - Timing is Everything patch.esp 290 USMP - USCCCP patch.esp 291 YunDao_Hdt_Hair.esp 292 Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Dint999.esp 293 Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - Fuse.esp 294 Xing SMP Hairs and Wigs - HHairstyles.esp 295 OCum.esp 296 BHUNP Gwelda Red Riding Hood.esp 297 DX Necromancer Robes.esp 298 DX Succubus Armor.esp 299 DX Daughter of the Sea.esp 29A WildHuntress.esp 29B Sisu_Serana.esp 29C CS_Anuriel.esp 29D CS_Faleen.esp 29E CS_Faralda.esp 29F CS_Freir.esp 2A0 CS_Hroki.esp 2A1 CS_Karita.esp 2A2 CS_Laila.esp 2A3 CS_Lynly.esp 2A4 CS_Nirya.esp 2A5 CS_Silana.esp 2A6 UUNP Vanilla Outfits.esp 2A7 HIMBO.esp 2A8 Sneak Tools Vanilla Hoods.esp 2A9 Sneak Tools Vanilla Masks.esp 2AA [COCO]Lingerie.esp 2AB XPMSE.esp 2AC Mihail - Dremora - Gender Variant.esp 2AD Innocence Lost QE - USSEP Patch.esp 2AE SDA Blood Arrows Patch.esp 2AF SDA RDO Patch.esp 2B0 Predator Vision.esp 2B1 Hunterborn - Predator Vision Compatibilty Patch.esp 2B2 DragonFastTravelRedone.esp 2B3 Bandit Lines Expansion.esp 2B4 Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp 2B5 Combat Gameplay Overhaul -Imp-LotD-ZIA.esp 2B6 USMP - Imperious-Races of Skyrim patch.esp 2B7 Trade & Barter.esp [Version 2.0] 2B8 DBM_TradeBarter_Patch.esp 2B9 PathOfSorcery.esp [Version 2.6] 2BA Vokrii - Minimalistic Perks of Skyrim.esp 2BB Mysticism - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp 2BC Odin - Vokrii Compatibility Patch.esp 2BD Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp [Version 400] 2BE Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 2BF Odin - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp 2C0 Ordinator - Apply Spell Conditions Fix.esp 2C1 Ordinator - Combat Styles.esp 2C2 Vokriinator Black.esp 2C3 Vokriinator Black - Apocalypse patch.esp 2C4 Vokriinator Black - Odin patch.esp 2C5 Vokriinator Black - Trade and Barter patch.esp 2C6 Sacrosanct - Vampires of Skyrim.esp 2C7 StrangeRunes - Sacrosanct Patch.esp 2C8 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp [Version 4.1.4] 2C9 Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp 2CA Alternate Start - Experience Patch.esp 2CB Modpocalypse NPCs (v3) ASLAL.esp 2CC nwsFollowerFramework.esp 2CD nwsFF_NoTeamMagicDamage.esp 2CE nwsFF_NTMD_Apocalypse.esp 2CF SDA NFF Patch.esp [Version 6.0NFFPatch] 2D0 ELFXEnhancer.esp 2D1 MCoW_ELFX.esp 2D2 ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp 2D3 IcePenguinWorldMapPaper.esp 2D4 Bashed Patch, 0.esp Edit: I went though the entire Wrye Smash list and saw no esps with SPID as a master. I'm pretty sure I don't have any items distrubed by SPID anymore. However, I do use HIMBO (and SOS, obviously). Edit: I found a mod called "magical crfeatures resist normal weapons plus more" that uses SPID. But I don't think that targets human npcs. crash-2023-02-20-20-47-56.log Edited February 20, 2023 by Jotasran
traison Posted February 20, 2023 Posted February 20, 2023 That last log got a few steps further for some reason, but still not getting anything from the disassembly, other than that both faulting functions share some similarities. Both contain a call to _stricmp which is a case-insensitive string comparison function if I remember correctly. Considering this is a crash in racemenu, and in both logs there's been bits of skeletons mentioned, the string comparison could be a node name check for instance. Does "unordered_map/set too long" mean anything to you? Open skee64.ini and set bEnableBodyMorph to 0. Does the problem go away? This is obviously not a fix, but right now it would be handy to just know *where* the problem is.
Jotasran Posted February 20, 2023 Author Posted February 20, 2023 18 minutes ago, traison said: Does "unordered_map/set too long" mean anything to you? No... unless this has anything to do with that... https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrimspecialedition/mods/76783 .... Dynamic Collision Adjustment.
Jotasran Posted February 20, 2023 Author Posted February 20, 2023 29 minutes ago, traison said: Open skee64.ini and set bEnableBodyMorph to 0. Does the problem go away? This is obviously not a fix, but right now it would be handy to just know *where* the problem is. Done. This happens sporadically so will need to play for hours to make sure it does anything.
Jotasran Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 5 hours ago, traison said: RaceMenu version 0.4.16? Edit: Most likely not since the disassembler does not want to go to 1E8668. Edit again: 0.4.16.14 apparently. Sorry didn't see that. 4.19.14
Jotasran Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 OK. So I've done about 4 hours of play with the bEnableBodyMorph=0. No crashes until I was literally just going to shut down for the night. I'm attaching it but doubt it's related. It the only crash I've had on this playthrough not related to the RaceMenu issue. crash-2023-02-21-05-58-27.log
Jotasran Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 The RaceMenu posts stick says: Version 0.4.19.14 added to new options which are on by default which have not been thoroughly tested: bBodyMorphGPUCopy bBodyMorphRebind If you are experiencing instability with respect to BodyMorph feature try disabling these options in skee64.ini, or skee64_custom.ini
traison Posted February 21, 2023 Posted February 21, 2023 Latest crash is not related. Those experimental changes look suspicious, I'd disable those and set bEnableBodyMorph back to 1. 1
Jotasran Posted February 21, 2023 Author Posted February 21, 2023 OK. Will do. I won't have time much time for Skyrim today but will get back in a couple days.
Jotasran Posted March 3, 2023 Author Posted March 3, 2023 Just wanted to update on this in case anyone has a similar crash log... I realized that bodygen was on in the skee64.ini . I believe it was conflicting w/ Obody NG. I haven't had this crash since changing bodygen to 0. 1
ronincaido Posted January 27, 2024 Posted January 27, 2024 On 3/3/2023 at 1:10 AM, Jotasran said: Just wanted to update on this in case anyone has a similar crash log... I realized that bodygen was on in the skee64.ini . I believe it was conflicting w/ Obody NG. I haven't had this crash since changing bodygen to 0. Duuuude You save my Skyrim, since I change bodygen to 0 I can finally play fluenty,
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