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So I have had this issue for quite a while now and it's driving me absolutely nuts. Maybe I missed something on the MNC page or/and I'm just stupid.  The issue I'm having is random horse texture swaps or flickering. Horses will start out fine with the SC horse texture and will then proceed to swap to the horrendously ugly MNC horse texture. It happens randomly, when I access the immersive horses items menu, or when I return to open world. I have tried so many things already to try and fix this but nothing has worked and now I come to you guys, who will hopefully be my saviors. Please help me get SC horse textures running as it should without being jump scared by MNC's horse vag.

Posted
On 12/2/2022 at 12:41 AM, trollmaster55 said:

So I have had this issue for quite a while now and it's driving me absolutely nuts. Maybe I missed something on the MNC page or/and I'm just stupid.  The issue I'm having is random horse texture swaps or flickering. Horses will start out fine with the SC horse texture and will then proceed to swap to the horrendously ugly MNC horse texture. It happens randomly, when I access the immersive horses items menu, or when I return to open world. I have tried so many things already to try and fix this but nothing has worked and now I come to you guys, who will hopefully be my saviors. Please help me get SC horse textures running as it should without being jump scared by MNC's horse vag.

 

I was just trying to track down a similar problem. For me, it appears that Animal_SOS was hot-swapping the horse models everytime the horse got horny. Also, I had the Fluffworks vanilla horses.esp enabled by mistake (according to the instructions, you don't use it when using SC_Horses and have to manually disable the esp), but that had no effect on the horse textures swapping. In the Creature Framework, I set the Horse model back to More Nasty Critters, and that seemed to fix the swapping. Animal_SOS has been a royal pain to sort out the load orders for everything. 

 

I really hope that keeps it fixed for me. 

Posted
1 hour ago, lavatube said:

 

I was just trying to track down a similar problem. For me, it appears that Animal_SOS was hot-swapping the horse models everytime the horse got horny. Also, I had the Fluffworks vanilla horses.esp enabled by mistake (according to the instructions, you don't use it when using SC_Horses and have to manually disable the esp), but that had no effect on the horse textures swapping. In the Creature Framework, I set the Horse model back to More Nasty Critters, and that seemed to fix the swapping. Animal_SOS has been a royal pain to sort out the load orders for everything. 

 

I really hope that keeps it fixed for me. 

And now I look and feel like a complete and utter fool. It was Animal SOS. Not MNC. I disabled the mod and it went away. Can't remember if any of my mods are dependent on Animal SOS however. Never would I have thought that A SOS was the issue. Thank you so much!

Posted
14 minutes ago, trollmaster55 said:

And now I look and feel like a complete and utter fool. It was Animal SOS. Not MNC. I disabled the mod and it went away. Can't remember if any of my mods are dependent on Animal SOS however. Never would I have thought that A SOS was the issue. Thank you so much!

 

Don't feel too bad. All these mods interact in weird ways like some Frankenstein's monster. Some mods swap textures, some only play with meshes, some require special skeletons, some only swap schlongs, some only do certain creatures or certain body parts and only at certain times. As your mod list grows, it only becomes more complex to keep everything sequenced correctly. 

 

And that Animal SOS is a beast to configure correctly and documentation is pretty much nil. I set all sorts of LOOT rules to try and get that to work, but I finally gave up on it today. I think the only time I ever got Animal SOS to work was if I had removed ABC. 

 

Don't forget to backup your mod list and load order once you have something stable. 

Posted
47 minutes ago, trollmaster55 said:

Can't remember if any of my mods are dependent on Animal SOS however.

ABC is. So I do need A SOS. I reinstalled A SOS and skipped Animal add on and race patch and seems like one of those is the culprit but I'm leaning more towards animal add on. No more texture swapping. Thanks again!

Posted
13 hours ago, trollmaster55 said:

ABC is. So I do need A SOS. I reinstalled A SOS and skipped Animal add on and race patch and seems like one of those is the culprit but I'm leaning more towards animal add on. No more texture swapping. Thanks again!

ABC doesn't require Animal SOS, but Animal SOS can use ABC if you set the creature selection to SOS-ABC manually for each creature. If you do get Animal SOS working correctly, please post your mod order and plugin order. There really are few load orders out there that use MNC, ABC, and Animal SOS. I kept using the Hentai Vampire lord to test my load order. If you got something wrong, you would end up with a floating dick or eyeballs jutting out from forehead during animations. Plus, the animation for the vampire lord is really cool when it works, this eye-ball like crotch opens and the dick expands out of it. The eye has spikes for lashes and the whole dick curves up during the animation. So wicked.   

  

I might try your suggestion with removing "animal add-on" if I'm willing to go through rebuilding everything and re-registering the creatures for the 4000th time. I presume you're also not using the original mesh esp?

Posted
9 hours ago, lavatube said:

ABC doesn't require Animal SOS, but Animal SOS can use ABC if you set the creature selection to SOS-ABC manually for each creature.

Disabling Animal SOS removed ABC from my creature framework, so I reenabled it so I could use Animal SOS+ABC.

 

As for my load order, I'm no expert at modding nor am I too knowledgeable in this field but here it is...

 

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254 FE   1 Skyrim Project Optimization - No Homes - Full ESL Version.esm
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  8  8     SexLabAroused.esm
254 FE   3 Expressive Facegen Morphs.esl
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254 FE   4 LewdMarks.esl
254 FE   5 SleepForMeNow.esl
254 FE   6 Vanilla Scripts Enhanced.esl
254 FE   7 Vibrant weapons.esl
254 FE   8 AHZmoreHUDInventory.esl
254 FE   9 SmoothCam.esl
254 FE   a RASS - Visual Effects.esl
254 FE   b Remove Mods from System Menu.esl
254 FE   c Pacifist Mini-Mods Collection.esl
254 FE   d DynamicCollisionAdjustment.esl
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254 FE   e Treescale.esm
254 FE   f Cathedral - 3D Mountain Flowers.esp
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254 FE  11 TrueHUD.esl
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 22 16     High Poly Head.esm
254 FE  12 iWant Widgets.esl
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254 FE  13 NoRecoil.esm
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254 FE  14 Particle Patch for ENB.esp
254 FE  15 GQJ_DG_vampireamuletfix.esp
254 FE  16 Mortal Enemies.esp
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254 FE  17 ELFX Shadows.esp
 31 1f     ELFX - Exteriors.esp
 32 20     DepthsOfSkyrim.esp
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 34 22     Snazzy Furniture and Clutter Overhaul.esp
 35 23     CynnsProudspire.esp
 36 24     CynnsVlindrelHall.esp
 37 25     iNeed.esp
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254 FE  18 Complementary Grass Fixes.esp
 39 27     Cutting Room Floor.esp
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254 FE  1a [Odd] Tifa Lockhart Remake Outfit.esp
254 FE  1b [Rektas] Temple Guardian [SE].esp
254 FE  1c [RyanReos] High Priestess.esp
254 FE  1d [TheMilkDrinker] NiseDovaArmor.esp
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254 FE  1e AK_RM_PubicStyles_All_In_One.esp
254 FE  1f SnowOverSkyrim.esp
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254 FE  20 Turn of the Seasons.esp
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254 FE  22 Bandit Lines Expansion.esp
254 FE  23 BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp
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254 FE  25 Clothes Pack 4 by DonEb14n.esp
254 FE  26 Customizable Camera.esp
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254 FE  27 DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
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254 FE  28 PositiveUndressedReactions.esp
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254 FE  59 BakaMotionData.esp
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254 FE  5f Spank That Ass.esp
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254 FE  62 Use Those Blankets.esp
254 FE  63 Use Those Blankets - Campfire Patch.esp
254 FE  64 OBody.esp
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254 FE  65 SgtTavern.esp
254 FE  66 [Melodic] Mitsuru Battle Panties.esp
254 FE  67 Civil War Lines Expansion.esp
 83 53     Facelight.esp
254 FE  68 genshin_hotaru.esp
254 FE  69 Better Face Lighting.esp
254 FE  6a Better Dynamic Ash.esp
254 FE  6b NoGrassias Ultimate.esp
254 FE  6c Animals Swim.esp
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254 FE  6d [Christine] Ilya Elf Archer.esp
254 FE  6e [COCO]BattleAngels.esp
254 FE  6f [COCO]Goddess War v2.esp
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254 FE  71 [COCO] Shadow Assassin [SE].esp
254 FE  72 [COCO] Witchiness [SE].esp
254 FE  73 [COCO]Student_Uniform_CBBE SE.esp
254 FE  74 [Dint999] SecretChildOfTalos.esp
254 FE  75 [Melodic] Raven.esp
254 FE  76 Luna [SE].esp
254 FE  77 [Tullius] Blue Plate Armor.esp
 85 55     AnubAnimObj.esp
254 FE  78 Frost Meshes Patch.esp
 86 56     Hjerim.esp
 87 57     HoneysideRedone.esp
 88 58     HappyLittleTrees.esp
 89 59     Helgen Reborn.esp
 90 5a     OBIS SE.esp
 91 5b     EVGATAIO.esp
 92 5c     Embers XD.esp
 93 5d     SexLab Confabulation.esp
 94 5e     SL Survival.esp
 95 5f     ELFX - Weathers.esp
 96 60     Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
254 FE  79 ELFX Shadows - Fake Lights Enabler.esp
 97 61     BaboInteractiveDia.esp
254 FE  7a ELFX - NoHjerim.esp
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254 FE  7b ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp
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254 FE  7c TOTS - Icy Waterways.esp
100 64     Populated Cities Towns Villages Legendary.esp
254 FE  7d EVGAT SIP.esp
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102 66     AltStartELFXPatch&RaceMenuActivator.esp
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104 68     Clothes Pack 5 by DonEb14n.esp
254 FE  7e CmuseEmilyAdoptable.esp
105 69     Keep It Clean.esp
106 6a     SexLab Beastess.esp
107 6b     LKVM Cellar and Exterior.esp
108 6c     SLSFFameComments.esp
254 FE  7f ELFX - NoProudspireManor.esp
254 FE  80 CynnsProudspire-USSEPPatch.esp
109 6d     LKVM Main House.esp
254 FE  81 Fertility Mode 3 Fixes and Updates.esp
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111 6f     Frostfall.esp
112 70     HF_Lakeview_PHB_EX.esp
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114 72     Mythical Ages.esp
115 73     OneWithNature.esp
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254 FE  82 RSChildren.esp
254 FE  83 Prince and the Pauper SE - RS Children Patch.esp
117 75     crimsonquestmarkers.esp
254 FE  84 OBIS Female Mannequins Patch.esp
254 FE  85 OBIS SE Masculinized Leveled List.esp
254 FE  86 Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp
118 76     LKVMII_LT01.esp
254 FE  87 SC_HorseReplacer.esp
119 77     Equestrian - An SC Horses Overhaul.esp
254 FE  88 Bleakfalls EVG.esp
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254 FE  89 Maleficus' Traversal.esp
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254 FE  8a OBIS-Missives-Headhunter-Addon.esp
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254 FE  8c PyP_Legendary.esp
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254 FE  8e Barleydark Farm Reborn.esp
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254 FE  8f RASS - Wet and Cold patch.esp
254 FE  90 WetandColdFreezing.esp
128 80     TorchesCastShadows.esp
254 FE  91 Breakable Equipment - Campfire Patch.esp
254 FE  92 ParagliderStaminaDrain.esp
254 FE  93 Paraglider Auto-Equip Tarhiel's Gale.esp
254 FE  94 Bleka falls tweaks.esp
254 FE  95 WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp
254 FE  96 helgenreborn_sexlab_patch.esp
254 FE  97 Landscape For Grass mods - Helgen Reborn Patch.esp
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254 FE  98 LKVM_NOGrass.esp
130 82     SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp
254 FE  99 Lap Sitting.esp
254 FE  9a LeafGan.esp
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254 FE  f6 Landscape For Grass Mods -Immersive Citizens PATCH.esp
182 b6     Equestrian - ImmHorses patch.esp
254 FE  f7 Immersive SC Horses Patch.esp
183 b7     Immersive Horses Patch.esp
184 b8     Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
254 FE  f8 ELFX Shadows - Alternate Start Patch.esp
185 b9     nwsFollowerFramework.esp
254 FE  f9 ELFX - Hardcore.esp
254 FE  fa Alternate Start ELFX Fix.esp
254 FE  fb ELFX Water for ENB Hardcore Patch.esp
254 FE  fc ELFX - Hardcore - Immersive Citizens patch.esp
254 FE  fd Immersive Citizens - ELFXHardcore patch.esp
186 ba     Water for ENB (Shades of Skyrim).esp
254 FE  fe Water for ENB - Patch - Landscape Fixes for Grass Mods.esp
254 FE  ff WENB Shades USSEP.esp
254 FE 100 Water for ENB - Patch - Lakeview Manor Avant Garden EX.esp
254 FE 101 Bashed Patch, 0.esp
254 FE 102 Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp
187 bb     DynDOLOD.esp
254 FE 103 Occlusion.esp

 

10 hours ago, lavatube said:

I might try your suggestion with removing "animal add-on" if I'm willing to go through rebuilding everything and re-registering the creatures for the 4000th time. I presume you're also not using the original mesh esp?

  Correct. From the FOMOD, I only installed the AnimalSOS.esp. I wish you luck and success.

 

PS. I have 0 knowledge on how to sort mods. I leave that all to LOOT.

 

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It's a bit confusing, but ABC works without Animal SOS. ABC just overwrites and extends More Nasty Critters. Thus, when you are not using Animal SOS, the ABC meshes are called More Nasty Critters in the selection menu. If you look at the ABC conflicts tab, you'll see it dumps all its meshes and textures into morenastycritters. So I don't think you'd ever see ABC on it's own in a selection menu. 

What "Animal SOS - ABC" means is that its using the growing/scaling ability of Animal SOS before sex, but when sex happens, it'll switch to the ABC. If you don't have it set up correctly, it can do some weird mesh/texture swapping. 

 

At least, that's my understanding of all of this. 

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Btw, here is my loadorder and plugins (without Animal SOS). It's quite possible I have some things in the wrong order, have mods that conflict in various ways, or have mods from wrong versions. It mostly works, though I've disabled some things in the MCM like the conflicting death alternative mods. I'm still sorting out which one I like more. I think I have two or three mods providing prostitution also and I think SlaveRun and Sexlab Survival have some conflicts, and lord knows those dozen or so devious device mods like to stomp on eachother if you're not careful. 

 

I change things a lot, definitely more than I should. Right now I'm checking out the critters added by the big Bruma DLC. I've also got the demonic creatures and LV Wildlife, and Bestial Essence, just in case my character needed to explore the entire friggin' zoo. Out of all the critters, I think Animal SOS only adds a handful of new ones, like the bull. However, I think one of the other mods I added also has a bull now. Hmm. 

loadorder.txt plugins.txt

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21 hours ago, lavatube said:

I change things a lot, definitely more than I should. Right now I'm checking out the critters added by the big Bruma DLC. I've also got the demonic creatures and LV Wildlife, and Bestial Essence, just in case my character needed to explore the entire friggin' zoo. Out of all the critters, I think Animal SOS only adds a handful of new ones, like the bull. However, I think one of the other mods I added also has a bull now. Hmm. 

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Thanks for your load order, it's really helpful. I'm also with you there, I'm always installing and removing mods which causes me to redo my game constantly. As for Bruma, I never knew it had that many creature "add ons". I wish there was ABC for bruma because ABC has me really spoiled.

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