losttoho Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 It started freezing at the start of the animation outdoors. The specific timing is when positioning the participants after they have finished undressing. If I open the console and deliberately delay the process, the animation starts. It does not occur indoors. Is there any solution to this problem? PS: The freeze will cause skyrim to freeze up and the only way to get it back is to force quit. 3
BLZBob Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) I am having exactly the same problem, I didnt know it was only outdoors but I was only testing outdoors. I thought it was an HDT-SMP bug at first but I just uninstalled it and everything using it and still got it. its a really nasty hard freeze as well, I cant get to the taskmanager to kill the task. got sick of having to relog or restart to fix it so made a bat file to kill skyrim that I can trigger to get out. More info because I realized this is a useless post as is... SE/AE 1.6.353 SL v164c no Crashlog as its a freeze not a crash so not getting one. I was specifically testing with werewolves when I got these freezes. can post load order and SL log file if needed, I am fairly sure my load order is good and I checked the SL log but didnt see anything that looked like an error or warning. just basic loading stuff. Still not sure if I was wrong about the problem being Fhdt-smp releated or not, I have yet to create a new save after removing all that as it takes so long to set everything up at the start of the game. Edited September 27, 2022 by BLZBob
BLZBob Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 Losttoho, what grass mods are you using? are you using Seasons of Skyrim, or and ENB with complex grass? I saw a post about grass vanishing for an instant when an animation starts and I think that guy was having some kind of crash or freeze if it happened in a high load area or something. I noticed that the grass also does this in my game and I am wondering if it might be something odd like that. really dont know, it makes no sense but only lead I have found. going to try disabling complex grass and testing more. might just be coinsidence
BLZBob Posted September 27, 2022 Posted September 27, 2022 I think I found what is causing it. Scratch what I said about grass... that was silly. For me at least it looks like the problem is Precision. I dont think it plays well with animation mods like SL. I was going threw all my mods one by one looking for anything and I came across bug reports on the Precision mod page about it freezing when riding a dragon such as at the end of the DB dlc or the end of the main story quest. Those types of animations are very similar to what SL does from what I understand and so I tried disabling it. Was able to run threw a bunch of SL animations without getting a freeze when before I was lucky to get one working. 2
losttoho Posted September 28, 2022 Author Posted September 28, 2022 Thanks for the information. I am also using precision so that may be the reason.
ichwarte0801 Posted October 22, 2022 Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) On 9/28/2022 at 5:12 AM, BLZBob said: I think I found what is causing it. Scratch what I said about grass... that was silly. For me at least it looks like the problem is Precision. I dont think it plays well with animation mods like SL. I was going threw all my mods one by one looking for anything and I came across bug reports on the Precision mod page about it freezing when riding a dragon such as at the end of the DB dlc or the end of the main story quest. Those types of animations are very similar to what SL does from what I understand and so I tried disabling it. Was able to run threw a bunch of SL animations without getting a freeze when before I was lucky to get one working. Is your game working fine now without precision? Im having the same freeze outdoor and also vanishing grass too Edit: Maybe i'm drunk but fixing the grass vanishing fixed the problem or it could be removing sexlab utility plus, tested sex outdoors for 40mins straight. Edited October 22, 2022 by ichwarte0801
chefren Posted October 22, 2022 Posted October 22, 2022 I had this issue and tried disabling Precision in MO2, started the game and .. no freeze. I didn't save the game, just enabled it again and moved it into the right load order but it definitely seems to be a conflict or bug in Precision or a bad interaction some other way.
BLZBob Posted October 22, 2022 Posted October 22, 2022 (edited) yeah, after removing Precision my game has been fine. the bug is known about in Precision and effects some vanilla animation events like dragon riding, basically making the game unbeatable if you use the mod. you cant finish the main quest or the DB DLC main quest without uninstalling the mod. hope they fix it because it did really improve combat. The thing with vanishing grass is normal I guess. I found why it did that and its not a problem... I just cant remember what the reason was. Edited October 22, 2022 by BLZBob
chefren Posted October 22, 2022 Posted October 22, 2022 Precision has a toggle key function in the MCM and it works fine although doesn't display any message when pressed.. Alas, that does not fix the freezing.
Ondine. Posted October 25, 2022 Posted October 25, 2022 (edited) I'm having this same problem with precision, If I remove it the problem goes away. the game freezes right at the beginning of the animation, it looks like it happens when the actors intersect each other to go into position that precision doesn't like EDIT: looks like there is an marked fixed bug report for precision on nexus. The issue started on version 1.1.5, installing 1.1.3 removed the bug for me. it was marked fixed by the mod author due to no crash log so roll of the dice if it will work again in future versions. Screenshots of freeze with Precision (version 1.1.7) debugging turned on Spoiler Edited October 25, 2022 by syrenundine Found additional Information
ichwarte0801 Posted October 28, 2022 Posted October 28, 2022 (edited) On 10/26/2022 at 1:56 AM, syrenundine said: I'm having this same problem with precision, If I remove it the problem goes away. the game freezes right at the beginning of the animation, it looks like it happens when the actors intersect each other to go into position that precision doesn't like EDIT: looks like there is an marked fixed bug report for precision on nexus. The issue started on version 1.1.5, installing 1.1.3 removed the bug for me. it was marked fixed by the mod author due to no crash log so roll of the dice if it will work again in future versions. Screenshots of freeze with Precision (version 1.1.7) debugging turned on Reveal hidden contents Can confirm this downgrade to 1.1.3 fixed the problem, 1.1.5 is an instant crash while 1.1.8 after 2 scene it crashed on creatures, human kinda random but only 2 to 5 times it'll crash. Ps: Ok so maybe i found out the reason, in 1.1.4 he apply some crash fix which related to the hook script when i checked the github so i downloaded 1.1.4 to test and yes, it did crash, so some crash fix in 1.1.4 messed up sth from sexlab i guess. Edited October 28, 2022 by ichwarte0801 Found out the reason? 2
Kairat Minagis Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 GOD GRANT HEALTH TO THE ONE WHO OPENED THIS TOPIC, I COULD NOT UNDERSTAND FOR 2 WEEKS BECAUSE OF WHAT IT IS. AND ALL THIS TIME IT WAS FUCKING PRECISION 1
RevanCathal Posted November 3, 2022 Posted November 3, 2022 (edited) So if I had to take a guess based what I can see from the Nexus mod page for Precision, please make sure the version of Precision you run is correct for your version of AE. As 1.6.640 is the current version of SAE, Precision 1.1.8 is most likely built for that version. Also bare in mind that almost every update for AE messes up mods worse than every update to SE or LE ever did. Edited November 3, 2022 by Jgoftl
chefren Posted November 11, 2022 Posted November 11, 2022 There is a testing version on Ershin's Patreon that seems to fix this issue. So a fix is coming and I run it with 1.6.353.
ichwarte0801 Posted November 15, 2022 Posted November 15, 2022 (edited) BakaFactory just upload a testing patch for sexlab and precision and everything work fine for me now with percision 1.1.17. Edited November 22, 2022 by ichwarte0801
Bizarro Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 Thank you SO much for this. Fuck that Precision update. Rolling back now
lord3angle Posted November 27, 2022 Posted November 27, 2022 I was wondering because I experience the same pause/freeze outdoors, though indoors is fine. I don't use Precision so likely mine has a different culprit. I hope I can be advised with what to do. Thank you
PRYINGORBS Posted November 29, 2022 Posted November 29, 2022 Anyone have a link to the BakaFactory precision patch? I can't seem to find it and really don't want to go back to 1.1.3 Precision.
ChibakoShiba Posted December 10, 2022 Posted December 10, 2022 On 10/26/2022 at 1:56 AM, syrenundine said: I'm having this same problem with precision, If I remove it the problem goes away. the game freezes right at the beginning of the animation, it looks like it happens when the actors intersect each other to go into position that precision doesn't like EDIT: looks like there is an marked fixed bug report for precision on nexus. The issue started on version 1.1.5, installing 1.1.3 removed the bug for me. it was marked fixed by the mod author due to no crash log so roll of the dice if it will work again in future versions. Screenshots of freeze with Precision (version 1.1.7) debugging turned on Reveal hidden contents Thankyou for your insight
chefren Posted December 14, 2022 Posted December 14, 2022 Precision 2.0 is out, it should fix the issue as the 1.9.x pre-release versions from Patreon have.
losttoho Posted December 15, 2022 Author Posted December 15, 2022 Precision 2.0 appears to have solved this problem.
LeeToyJenkins Posted May 26, 2023 Posted May 26, 2023 I have this issue with Precision 2.4 , should i downgrade into 2.0?
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