Sexlab and Skyrim DLC compatibility

[Guest carywinton]

I received an email from Bethsoft dealing with issues in their DLCs , specifically certain scripts not firing like entering the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard, they informed me that any mod which alters or adds scripts, including SkyUI , SKSE, etc. would cause this behavior. My question is has there been any reports of this happening using Sexlab ? Since Sexlab is dependent on FINS and SKSE.  I plan to do a complete new install and do not desire to run into this problem again. It virtually made playing the DLCs nearly impossible.

[Ark of Truth]

None that I know of.

[jbezorg]

I received an email from Bethsoft dealing with issues in their DLCs , specifically certain scripts not firing like entering the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard, they informed me that any mod which alters or adds scripts, including SkyUI , SKSE, etc. would cause this behavior. My question is has there been any reports of this happening using Sexlab ? Since Sexlab is dependent on FINS and SKSE.  I plan to do a complete new install and do not desire to run into this problem again. It virtually made playing the DLCs nearly impossible.

 

Sounds more like bailing on support. "Any mod that alters or adds scripts"? In other words, practically all mods.

[Ashal]

Yeah that sounds more like a brush off from support saying they won't help with non-vanilla installs.

[Guest carywinton]

None that I know of.

Thanks for your reply, it is appreciated.

[Guest carywinton]

 

I received an email from Bethsoft dealing with issues in their DLCs , specifically certain scripts not firing like entering the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard, they informed me that any mod which alters or adds scripts, including SkyUI , SKSE, etc. would cause this behavior. My question is has there been any reports of this happening using Sexlab ? Since Sexlab is dependent on FINS and SKSE.  I plan to do a complete new install and do not desire to run into this problem again. It virtually made playing the DLCs nearly impossible.

 

Sounds more like bailing on support. "Any mod that alters or adds scripts"? In other words, practically all mods.

 

Yes I agree, thanks for your reply.

[Guest carywinton]

Yeah that sounds more like a brush off from support saying they won't help with non-vanilla installs.

Yes it does sound like the typical "Cop Out" reply. I will post my original question and their reply below .

 

My Question:

Quest DLC1VQ04 does not progress at step 75 forcing quest to step 90 or 95 still does not allow for entry into the Soul Cairn There are serious bugs with this DLC especially on this particular part of the quest phase I have tried with a total clean install of both the DLC and Skyrim same results I believe it is a problem with those scripts that fire those events mostly in the area of timing even waiting between quest updates and phases does not solve the issue.

 

 Their Response:

Hi,

Cary,

 

You are able to enter the Soul Cairn if you are a Vampire, or if Serana soul traps you. Please note that mods can severely interfere with normal scripts of the game, and are generally the issue we see when problems like this arise.

 

While we do encourage fans of the game to create mods, they are not supported here at tech support. Common unsupported mods include Nexus Mod Manager and any associated mods, SKSE, Skyboost, SkyUI, ScriptDragon, or any Steam Workshop Mod. If you experience issues while using third party mods, we advise deleting them completely, not disabling them, and reverting back to game saves prior to their installation.

 

For any questions you may have about a mod's functionality or any future updates to the mod, we suggest contacting the mod author.

 

If you need further assistance, you can also reach us online at http://support.bethsoft.com or our technical support staff at (410)-568-3685. Please include all previous replies when/if responding to this message.

 

Best Regards,

Greg A. at Bethesda Technical Support

support04@bethsoft.com

[Adam Jensen]

What I do when I usually have a problem like this is, I load a clean save and then said save. It usually fixes the problem, but to be honest, I have yet to see a mod that alters Soul Cairn, not even texture wise.

[Guest carywinton]

What I do when I usually have a problem like this is, I load a clean save and then said save. It usually fixes the problem, but to be honest, I have yet to see a mod that alters Soul Cairn, not even texture wise.

Yeah the response I got from Bethsoft you could clearly see they did not even read my email, it states right there that this took place with a clean install and no mods. Why that one spot is so bugged for me is a mystery, my topic here was more relevant to having any issues related to the fine work of the SexLab foundation etc, with the DLCs and so far no one has chimed in with any and most are to the contrary. So this looks good for doing yet another clean install, if that is even possible when stuck with the "Steam" installation process, oh the days of CD/DVD install seem to be gone. I was done in under an hour or so with any game, now it's days of agonizing download time. Thanks for your input on this, it's appreciated.

[CGi]

From what i've read in the email, they just say, they don't support stuff, they didn't make/include.
And if you mod your game or use software not made by them, you get no support.
Wow, now that's new!  -.-  *sarcasm-mode-off*

 

Bethesda becomes more and more like EA. And no, that's not a good thing.

Wonder when we'll have to pay for a DLC, that's nothing more then a patch.

[kurisu7885]

I have absolutely every piece of Skyrim DLC and i've had zero problems.

[shinji72]

I have lot of mod (with script) and soul cairn was perfectly activade. It's not a problem with "added script". Is some specific mod which is cause you trouble. I understand beth support not wanting to dig into details.

 

[Guest GreyFeng19]

I like how they advise deleting mods. Considering the way they wrote their code, isn't it kind of impossible to completely remove a mod from a save? That seems to be a big issue over at NMM. 

[Guest carywinton]

I have absolutely every piece of Skyrim DLC and i've had zero problems.

I would be interested in what mods you run, their load order and any merge patches made. It is interesting to note that in my email to Bethsoft I stated this "I have tried with a total clean install of both the DLC and Skyrim " , yet they immediately jumped at it being a mod causing the problem.

[kurisu7885]

I do run BOSS after every mod change, and ,honestly, I dunno if I've ever done a merge patch.

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

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Update.esm=1
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ApachiiHair.esm=1
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SPIKE.esm=1
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Better Embers.esp=1
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Immersive Factions.esp=1
Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1
Immersive Patrols.esp=1
Immersive Travelers.esp=1
Immersive Werewolves.esp=1
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ShootingStars.esp=1
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Footprints.esp=1
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WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1
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Actualize Apparel.esp=1
Cloaks.esp=1
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp=1
Cloaks - Player Only.esp=1
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FullBootForKKSA.esp=1
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Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
Headtracking.esp=1
Mannequin.esp=1
OpenFaceHelmets.esp=1
PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp=1
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dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1
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Populated Cities 2.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp=1
Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1
Werewolves.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
MidasSkyrim.esp=1
Elementalist.esp=1
WeatherMaster.esp=1
sheogorath_shout.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp=1
The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1
mmkhajiithair11.esp=1
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1
UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1
UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1
KhajiitChildren.esp=1
My_Little_hatchling.esp=1
My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp=1
Nicer-Looking Khajiit.esp=1
getSnowy.esp=1
WATER.esp=1
WATER Plants.esp=1
Waves.esp=1
Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1
follower dar'hausin.esp=1
follower qa'raazi.esp=1
Book_Of_Stumbling_v3.esp=1
argonianlove.esp=1
tentaclespawnspell.esp=1
minizoo01.esp=1
LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp=1
horsefuta.esp=1
potema.esp=1
zzEstrus.esp=1
SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1
SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1
SexLab SexChat.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1
SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1
SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1
SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1

 

[Guest carywinton]

I do run BOSS after every mod change, and ,honestly, I dunno if I've ever done a merge patch.

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

BBLuxurySuite.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

UndergroundBathhouse.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

breezehomelightfix.esp=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Morning Fogs.esp=1

LIAT - Sounds.esp=1

ts_deathbyerock.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

Better Embers.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

Immersive Battles.esp=1

Immersive Brigands.esp=1

Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1

Immersive Factions.esp=1

Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1

Immersive Patrols.esp=1

Immersive Travelers.esp=1

Immersive Werewolves.esp=1

LIAT - NPCs.esp=1

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1

ShootingStars.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Footprints.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Actualize Apparel.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp=1

Cloaks - Player Only.esp=1

FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1

FullBootForKKSA.esp=1

StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp=1

Aezeal's Castle.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp=1

BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp=1

BBLSspouse.esp=1

BBLSVisitors.esp=1

Dragon Falls Manor.esp=1

Immersive Events.esp=1

LevelersTower.esp=1

Northern Bathhouses.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp=1

ub_bbls_merge.esp=1

Vjarkell Castle.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

Headtracking.esp=1

Mannequin.esp=1

OpenFaceHelmets.esp=1

PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1

wabba-unrel_proj.esp=1

Populated Cities 2.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1

Werewolves.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

MidasSkyrim.esp=1

Elementalist.esp=1

WeatherMaster.esp=1

sheogorath_shout.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

mmkhajiithair11.esp=1

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1

KhajiitChildren.esp=1

My_Little_hatchling.esp=1

My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp=1

Nicer-Looking Khajiit.esp=1

getSnowy.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

Waves.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

follower dar'hausin.esp=1

follower qa'raazi.esp=1

Book_Of_Stumbling_v3.esp=1

argonianlove.esp=1

tentaclespawnspell.esp=1

minizoo01.esp=1

LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp=1

horsefuta.esp=1

potema.esp=1

zzEstrus.esp=1

SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1

SexLab SexChat.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1

SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1

 

 

Thanks a lot for this post and nice list of mods. I am currently going to do a complete "Vanilla" game install and play through to prove to these Bethsoft know it all, they are wrong, soon as I can get it all to open in the creation kit, I am certain I will see massive script errors and transition scripts that need work on Dawnguard.

[kurisu7885]

 

I do run BOSS after every mod change, and ,honestly, I dunno if I've ever done a merge patch.

 

 

GameMode=Skyrim

 

Skyrim.esm=1

Update.esm=1

Dawnguard.esm=1

HearthFires.esm=1

Dragonborn.esm=1

ApachiiHair.esm=1

BBLuxurySuite.esm=1

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm=1

SPIKE.esm=1

UndergroundBathhouse.esm=1

Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1

SexLab.esm=1

HighResTexturePack01.esp=1

HighResTexturePack02.esp=1

HighResTexturePack03.esp=1

breezehomelightfix.esp=1

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp=1

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp=1

Morning Fogs.esp=1

LIAT - Sounds.esp=1

ts_deathbyerock.esp=1

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp=1

Better Embers.esp=1

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp=1

Immersive Battles.esp=1

Immersive Brigands.esp=1

Immersive Dawnguard.esp=1

Immersive Factions.esp=1

Immersive Mercenaries.esp=1

Immersive Patrols.esp=1

Immersive Travelers.esp=1

Immersive Werewolves.esp=1

LIAT - NPCs.esp=1

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp=1

ShootingStars.esp=1

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp=1

Footprints.esp=1

WetandCold.esp=1

WetandCold - Ashes.esp=1

SkyUI.esp=1

Actualize Apparel.esp=1

Cloaks.esp=1

Cloaks - No Imperial.esp=1

Cloaks - Player Only.esp=1

FlameAtronachArmor.esp=1

FullBootForKKSA.esp=1

StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp=1

Aezeal's Castle.esp=1

BBLuxurySuiteExt.esp=1

BBLSHousecarlsmovein.esp=1

BBLSspouse.esp=1

BBLSVisitors.esp=1

Dragon Falls Manor.esp=1

Immersive Events.esp=1

LevelersTower.esp=1

Northern Bathhouses.esp=1

Run For Your Lives.esp=1

When Vampires Attack.esp=1

The Asteria - Dwemer Airship.esp=1

ub_bbls_merge.esp=1

Vjarkell Castle.esp=1

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1

Headtracking.esp=1

Mannequin.esp=1

OpenFaceHelmets.esp=1

PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp=1

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp=1

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp=1

wabba-unrel_proj.esp=1

Populated Cities 2.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Illuminated Spells.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities & Town Interiors.esp=1

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp=1

Werewolves.esp=1

Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1

MidasSkyrim.esp=1

Elementalist.esp=1

WeatherMaster.esp=1

sheogorath_shout.esp=1

FNISspells.esp=1

SeeYouSleepByMadmole.esp=1

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp=1

mmkhajiithair11.esp=1

UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp=1

UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp=1

UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp=1

KhajiitChildren.esp=1

My_Little_hatchling.esp=1

My_Little_kitty_non_replaced.esp=1

Nicer-Looking Khajiit.esp=1

getSnowy.esp=1

WATER.esp=1

WATER Plants.esp=1

Waves.esp=1

Bashed Patch, 0.esp=1

follower dar'hausin.esp=1

follower qa'raazi.esp=1

Book_Of_Stumbling_v3.esp=1

argonianlove.esp=1

tentaclespawnspell.esp=1

minizoo01.esp=1

LustyArgonianMaid&SultryArgonianBard.esp=1

horsefuta.esp=1

potema.esp=1

zzEstrus.esp=1

SexLabMatchMaker.esp=1

SexLabWorkingGirl.esp=1

SexLab SexChat.esp=1

Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1

SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp=1

SC07SexLabRandomAttack.esp=1

SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp=1

SexLab_Paycrime.esp=1

 

 

Thanks a lot for this post and nice list of mods. I am currently going to do a complete "Vanilla" game install and play through to prove to these Bethsoft know it all, they are wrong, soon as I can get it all to open in the creation kit, I am certain I will see massive script errors and transition scripts that need work on Dawnguard.

 

 

It's quite possible. I got the unofficial patches, so that might be a big reason why.

 

[alericofwindhelm]

I received an email from Bethsoft dealing with issues in their DLCs , specifically certain scripts not firing like entering the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard, they informed me that any mod which alters or adds scripts, including SkyUI , SKSE, etc. would cause this behavior. My question is has there been any reports of this happening using Sexlab ? Since Sexlab is dependent on FINS and SKSE.  I plan to do a complete new install and do not desire to run into this problem again. It virtually made playing the DLCs nearly impossible.

Without SKSE, you might as well give up on Skyrim modding, as without it, practically the only thing you can add in is new armors and weapons.

 

Sorry, but that is just the way the game is built.

 

Edit:

 

And SkyUI has been out for a very long time, practically since the CK was released, so it is a pretty safe mod.

[lordofthedread]

I never had any problem e ntering the Soul Cairn with 200+ mods loaded (including SexLab and other mods from LL), it may be just my luck but if Serana soul traps me the Soul Cairn is opening normally.

 

My guess is, if you have a mod that alters vampirism and you try to enter as a vampire it may not work, it might be a problem with custom race and vampirism.

 

I cant really say since I dont play vampire.

[Guest carywinton]

 

I received an email from Bethsoft dealing with issues in their DLCs , specifically certain scripts not firing like entering the Soul Cairn in Dawnguard, they informed me that any mod which alters or adds scripts, including SkyUI , SKSE, etc. would cause this behavior. My question is has there been any reports of this happening using Sexlab ? Since Sexlab is dependent on FINS and SKSE.  I plan to do a complete new install and do not desire to run into this problem again. It virtually made playing the DLCs nearly impossible.

Without SKSE, you might as well give up on Skyrim modding, as without it, practically the only thing you can add in is new armors and weapons.

 

Sorry, but that is just the way the game is built.

 

Edit:

 

And SkyUI has been out for a very long time, practically since the CK was released, so it is a pretty safe mod.

 

Thanks for your reply and input in regards to these problems , I agree with you on all your points especially SkyUI, it has shown to be stable, so perhaps I just had a very corrupted Skyrim, I am going to try and read up on the best procedure for installing mods, I am used to the good old just drop it in method, but this seems to not be the way to go with Skyrim, worked fine with Fallout 3, which I am very used to getting mods installed in.

[Guest carywinton]

I never had any problem e ntering the Soul Cairn with 200+ mods loaded (including SexLab and other mods from LL), it may be just my luck but if Serana soul traps me the Soul Cairn is opening normally.

 

My guess is, if you have a mod that alters vampirism and you try to enter as a vampire it may not work, it might be a problem with custom race and vampirism.

 

I cant really say since I dont play vampire.

Thanks for your reply on this, I had tried to enter the Soul Cairn with both methods, as a Vampire and as a trapped soul, neither worked and I was not using any mods that altered or changed the Vampire Race at all.

[Guest carywinton]

So here it is folks who may be following this thread, the overall consensus is none of the mods used or needed for the fabulous SexLab framework and other great works here at LL should cause any problems with any of the Skyrim DLCs. In my particular situation I have come to the conclusion my Skyrim fille structure must have been totally corrupted.