LordZero Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 Whenever I load into a save, my character would load in with a, what looks to be an unaltered vanilla body. You can notice this because the arm detaches from the hand. The hand and feet seem to be unaffected. However, this can be fixed every time I unequip and equip my outfit. It will take on the usual body form/shape. I have already tried building new outfits and body morphs with bodyslide, but doesn't fix the problem. I haven't installed any new mods or changed anything recently. This only started to happen a few hours ago after a previous Skyrim session. Anyone know how to fix this or what is causing the problem?
sad rabbit Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 idk if this gonna help soo backup first go to BodySlide and Outfit Studio\meshes\actors\character\character assets and see if there a body there copy that body to your body folder that you character use.
bnub345 Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 10 minutes ago, LordZero said: Anyone know how to fix this or what is causing the problem? The hand mesh is different from the body mesh. Likely the bodyslide for that outfit was made with a different body than the one you are using. Or you built the outfit and body with different presets which changed the arm size. You can try rebuilding the bodyslide for that outfit and your hands, making sure that the sliders are set to the same values.
LordZero Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 49 minutes ago, sad rabbit said: idk if this gonna help soo backup first go to BodySlide and Outfit Studio\meshes\actors\character\character assets and see if there a body there copy that body to your body folder that you character use. Unfortunately, there is no body in the bodyslide/outfit studio portion of the mod. If you mean the general body, that is in the 3BA mod. Bodyslide overwrites the files in there when I build the body. I have tried to rebuild the 3BA body, hands, and feet all in one. Didn't fix it. 49 minutes ago, bnub345 said: The hand mesh is different from the body mesh. Likely the bodyslide for that outfit was made with a different body than the one you are using. Or you built the outfit and body with different presets which changed the arm size. You can try rebuilding the bodyslide for that outfit and your hands, making sure that the sliders are set to the same values. That was what I was thinking too. But when I unequip the outfit, my main body returns to normal (aligns with the hand). When I reequip the outfit, the arm stays normal (still aligned). The hand never changes shape/size. Also, did a little more testing. Noticed the "unalignment" always happens when starting up Skyrim/SKSE loader fresh from desktop. If you realign midgame and load into another save file, the alignment "sometimes" stays aligned... As for the outfit, it is compatible with CBBE/3BA. I have rebuilt it with the same preset as the body, still no good. It was working fine before today. I only noticed today when I noticed my sleeves were clipping into my arm.
bnub345 Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 11 minutes ago, LordZero said: That was what I was thinking too. But when I unequip the outfit, my main body returns to normal (aligns with the hand). When I reequip the outfit, the arm stays normal (still aligned). The hand never changes shape/size. So this means the body the outfit is using is not the same as the body you are using. You need to either use the same base body which the outfit bodyslide was made with or you can change the outfit to use your body. This is pretty simple copy/pasting stuff you can do in either nifskope or outfit studio, but it may cause clipping that you would need to fix.
LordZero Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 Really? The body of the outfit is 3BA. I am also using 3BA as the main body. Weights and everything change with slider for the outfit. I usually signal that as body compatible. What got me confused is why it just started to happen today. Was working fine before. Here's what I mean when the arm "snaps" back to the normal values (after unequip and reequip). Only the upper arm portion changes to align back, hands don't change. Wouldn't the outfit keep "its" body details even if reequiped and not conform to the character's?
bnub345 Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 Ok if the mesh sometimes aligns and sometimes doesn't you have some other weird problem going on. If it was the mesh itself it would always be the same. I'm afraid I don't know how to help you with that one.
LordZero Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 25 minutes ago, bnub345 said: Ok if the mesh sometimes aligns and sometimes doesn't you have some other weird problem going on. If it was the mesh itself it would always be the same. I'm afraid I don't know how to help you with that one. Ok thanks for your help. Just to add. Found out using showracemenu also realigns it (into image 2). But also not a permanent fix. Not sure what that means. ECE is slow to start up? Initially body item alone is not reading character values correctly or at all? Maybe that means the problem isn't with the outfit. Sometimes I would see the vanilla values (hair, hair color, height, etc) for a brief second as my character, before everything gets to their correct values to make up the character in half a second. Edit: OK so, did a little more testing. Seems like: -Only misaligned when starting Skyrim from desktop and loading into a save. -If you fix the alignment, by unequipping and reequipping, in one save, and load into another save, the alignment is still fixed. -Entering showracemenu also fixes the alignment. -Bodyslide building does not work (outfit or body). Vanilla outfit does not work either. That's how much I can work out about the problem. Not how to permanently solve :X
sad rabbit Posted January 17, 2022 Posted January 17, 2022 15 hours ago, LordZero said: Unfortunately, there is no body in the bodyslide/outfit studio portion of the mod. If you mean the general body, that is in the 3BA mod. Bodyslide overwrites the files in there when I build the body. I have tried to rebuild the 3BA body, hands, and feet all in one. Didn't fix it. i mean the bodyslide hinself not the portion of the mod my bodyslide stop work with the body folder inself one time and morphs dont work no matter what i do then i discover that the body changed where in bodyslide folder and not the body mod meshes folder
LordZero Posted January 17, 2022 Author Posted January 17, 2022 20 minutes ago, sad rabbit said: i mean the bodyslide hinself not the portion of the mod my bodyslide stop work with the body folder inself one time and morphs dont work no matter what i do then i discover that the body changed where in bodyslide folder and not the body mod meshes folder Oh I see. Just tested out with another outfit, the bodyslide seems to work. Morphs are working from bodyslide. It seems that the only the body outfit is not reading my ingame customization. For example, if my character has -1 breast size. Loading in, the outfit will have the default 0 breast size from the mesh built by bodyslide. I think the clipping is due to my character having -1 forearm/upper arm scale, normally. But loading in, the outfit shows 0 forearm/upper arm scale. Like before, can be fixed if reequipped or enter showracemenu. But not permanent fix. So it seems the customization from the ECE doesn't apply to the outfit when loading in. But is fine for the hands and feet.....
sad rabbit Posted January 18, 2022 Posted January 18, 2022 19 hours ago, LordZero said: Oh I see. Just tested out with another outfit, the bodyslide seems to work. Morphs are working from bodyslide. It seems that the only the body outfit is not reading my ingame customization. For example, if my character has -1 breast size. Loading in, the outfit will have the default 0 breast size from the mesh built by bodyslide. I think the clipping is due to my character having -1 forearm/upper arm scale, normally. But loading in, the outfit shows 0 forearm/upper arm scale. Like before, can be fixed if reequipped or enter showracemenu. But not permanent fix. So it seems the customization from the ECE doesn't apply to the outfit when loading in. But is fine for the hands and feet..... do you turn on this one in red cicle?
LordZero Posted January 20, 2022 Author Posted January 20, 2022 On 1/18/2022 at 9:01 AM, sad rabbit said: do you turn on this one in red cicle? Yup, I always build morphs for the body parts and batch build.
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