Living is Pain (alpha version)

[Dlinny_Lag]

10 hours ago, Saya Scarlett said:

Just a dumb correction but the name should probably be 'Life is Pain' or 'Living is Pain'.

 

Actually, I'm not an expert in English to express the idea I want.

Living is Pain seems more suitable. Thanks

 

How about following options? Does any of them seem reasonable for you?

To live is pain

Live it is pain

 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Dlinny_Lag

[Dlinny_Lag]

9 hours ago, Eskella said:

trying to reproduce the crash behaviour w/ NPCs and could not.

Probably you have an old Buffout crash log. Could you share it anyway?

 

9 hours ago, Eskella said:

I do see the log shows the attributes being applied to the relevant characters' IDs, so it's definitely running and not crashing. 

The fact that you stop facing crash after debug logs enabling is the indicator that something might be wrong in multi-threading code 

Could you disable debug logs and check that crashes actually disappeared?

Edited December 14, 2021 by Dlinny_Lag

[Dlinny_Lag]

8 hours ago, Eskella said:

a wish-list item for the HUD mod

Current HUD mod is temporal solution for development/debug purposes only. It is not designed for normal gameplay.

I don't like how HUD Framework works and intend to introduce independent UI for displaying LiP attributes. And yes, gamers will be able to configure this UI.

[Dlinny_Lag]

8 hours ago, Eskella said:

Sex Education

As I understant it is an attempt to handle issue with player's leveling progress caused by Sex Attributes design. What aspects of Sex Education you want to see with LiP?

 

8 hours ago, Eskella said:

AAF Sexual Harassment

I would prefer someone else to implement it %)

I just want to focus on LiP Framework development.

[spicydoritos]

2 hours ago, Dlinny_Lag said:

Actually, I'm not an expert in English to express the idea I want.

Living is Pain seems more suitable. Thanks

 

How about following options? Does any of them seem reasonable for you?

To live is pain

Live it is pain

 

"Life is Pain" is a common expression in English (or at least American English.

 

"Living is Pain" also sounds fine.

 

"To Live is Pain" comes across as archaic or theatrical.

 

"Live it is Pain" would have to be reworded as something like "Living: It's Pain" to make sense.

[Saya Scarlett]

13 hours ago, Dlinny_Lag said:

Actually, I'm not an expert in English to express the idea I want.

Living is Pain seems more suitable. Thanks

 

How about following options? Does any of them seem reasonable for you?

To live is pain

Live it is pain

 

 

Living is Pain should work nicely. To live is pain or live it is pain don't really make much sense grammatically ?

 

10 hours ago, spicydoritos said:

"Life is Pain" is a common expression in English (or at least American English.

 

"Living is Pain" also sounds fine.

 

"To Live is Pain" comes across as archaic or theatrical.

 

"Live it is Pain" would have to be reworded as something like "Living: It's Pain" to make sense.

 

^ This

[Eskella]

On 12/14/2021 at 9:22 AM, Dlinny_Lag said:

As I understant it is an attempt to handle issue with player's leveling progress caused by Sex Attributes design. What aspects of Sex Education you want to see with LiP?

 

Double-checking it, it actually seems like it's a very minor integration (for some reason I thought there was more interaction w/ the XP grants and Attributes).

 

On 12/14/2021 at 9:22 AM, Dlinny_Lag said:

I would prefer someone else to implement it %)

I just want to focus on LiP Framework development.

 

Understood - I will keep an eye out and look to mention it in that thread when this is a it further along.

 

re: the other message, I'll run the tests you mentioned w/o debugging code on and let you know. Thanks.

 

Edit: Can confirm no crashes as well with debug mode off. Perhaps my PC was just being weird that first day!
Edit 2: OK, just crashed on a quicksave. Going to try and turn debug mode on and see if it does the same.

Edited December 17, 2021 by Eskella

[Dlinny_Lag]

8 hours ago, Eskella said:

Edit: Can confirm no crashes as well with debug mode off. Perhaps my PC was just being weird that first day!
Edit 2: OK, just crashed on a quicksave. Going to try and turn debug mode on and see if it does the same.

Both problems seems fixed in F4DS 0.7.4

[vranina]

I put I think all the mods that are listed, but something does not work. In MCM I see the settings, I see names on the screen, but there are no chills either on the hud or in the pip boy.

[Dlinny_Lag]

5 hours ago, vranina said:

but there are no chills either on the hud or in the pip boy.

There is no data reflected in pip boy at all.

Potential problem with HUD displaying - incompatibility with Transfer Settlements. Probably some another mod works in similar way as Transfer Settlements and blocks LiP HUD working. Anyway, LiP HUD Addon is not considered for normal gameplay, it is just for development/debug purposes. Handy UI actively is under development.

[Dlinny_Lag]

On 12/20/2021 at 4:02 PM, Dlinny_Lag said:

Handy UI actively is under development.

Done. See LiP UI

[koutsokou]

Just a dumb question. Is the AA.esm that is required the AAF mod?

 

 

[leduss]

hello All

 

i have a little problem with this game 

 

my game crashed with return to desktop
here is the crash file

 

crash-2022-01-18-12-28-34-AUTOSCAN.txt

can you help me understand where this crash is coming from?

 

Thank you in advance

Edited January 18, 2022 by leduss

[Dlinny_Lag]

5 hours ago, koutsokou said:

Just a dumb question. Is the AA.esm that is required the AAF mod?

No. AA.esm is the part of Additional Attributes that hasn't dependencies except F4SE. 

[Dlinny_Lag]

5 hours ago, leduss said:

can you help me understand where this crash is coming from?

Could you share Buffout crash log itself? File that you posted is just a summary, not an actual crash information.

Buffout crash files usually could be found in %userprofile%\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\F4SE\ folder and has format like crash-2022-01-06-01-06-46.log

 

Edited January 18, 2022 by Dlinny_Lag

[leduss]

Thank you very much for your answer and your help.

*
unfortunately I deleted this file thinking that the one I posted would suffice

if you don't mind i will wait for another crash and post the correct file !

 

cordially

[jbezorg]

You may need to add some filters. On the 0.6.2 version. Raider gun turrets were having orgasm failures.

[Dlinny_Lag]

29 minutes ago, jbezorg said:

You may need to add some filters. On the 0.6.2 version. Raider gun turrets were having orgasm failures.

Could you say where such turret is placed? 

[leduss]

14 hours ago, Dlinny_Lag said:

Could you share Buffout crash log itself? File that you posted is just a summary, not an actual crash information.

Buffout crash files usually could be found in %userprofile%\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\F4SE\ folder and has format like crash-2022-01-06-01-06-46.log

 

hello Dlinny

 

I just retested and it return to desktop at another location

here is the crash file

 

if you can help me understand what is causing these random crashes !!!

crash-2022-01-19-07-52-19.log crash-2022-01-19-07-52-19-AUTOSCAN.txt

[Dlinny_Lag]

17 minutes ago, leduss said:

if you can help me understand what is causing these random crashes !!!

As I can see crash occured in F4DS plugin. May I ask you to help with problem investigation?

 

Could you enable debug output and reproduce crash?

1. Run game and load save

2. Open game console and execute

 

cgf "DS:Debug.SetLogLevel" 4
cgf "DS:Debug.Dump"

 

3. Reproduce crash

4. Share %userprofile%\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\F4SE\DS.log

 

To disable debug log you can execute following line in game console

 

cgf "DS:Debug.SetLogLevel" 3

 

Edited January 19, 2022 by Dlinny_Lag

[Dlinny_Lag]

9 hours ago, leduss said:

if you can help me understand what is causing these random crashes !!!

Could you confirm/reject my assumptions based on crash logs?

1) You installed LiP at the middle of game

2) You haven't any companion

[leduss]

1 hour ago, Dlinny_Lag said:

Could you confirm/reject my assumptions based on crash logs?

1) You installed LiP at the middle of game

2) You haven't any companion

 

1: yes and no

yes --> I updated lip mid game and random crashes.
no--> I started a new game (save without mods installed) and random crashes too !

 

2: yes and no

yes--> no vanilla companions and random crashes.

no--> companions (temporary) of the captive commonwealth mod and crashes too !

Edited January 19, 2022 by leduss

[Dlinny_Lag]

49 minutes ago, leduss said:

yes and no

Thanks

 

[leduss]

11 hours ago, Dlinny_Lag said:

As I can see crash occured in F4DS plugin. May I ask you to help with problem investigation?

 

Could you enable debug output and reproduce crash?

1. Run game and load save

2. Open game console and execute

 

cgf "DS:Debug.SetLogLevel" 4
cgf "DS:Debug.Dump"

 

3. Reproduce crash

4. Share %userprofile%\Documents\My Games\Fallout4\F4SE\DS.log

 

To disable debug log you can execute following line in game console

 

cgf "DS:Debug.SetLogLevel" 3

 

I just tried what you advised me and I played an hour and I had no crashes

I'll start over from a clean save and I'll let you know if you don't mind...

 

cordially and TY again

[Dlinny_Lag]

1 hour ago, leduss said:

crashes too !

Could you update F4DS and recheck?

I can't promise that crash is fixed, as I can't reproduce crash on my side.