What does guaranteed_under_20_incest_rejection_trigger block off?

[ursula_tt]

I was looking at the incest related bits of the seduction code in the game and in multiple places it references the fact that guaranteed_under_20_incest_rejection_trigger is a hard block a.k.a something that you can't mod away.

 

But I am currently bypassing it by deleting the bit that disables the seduction interaction in the context menu for close/extended family under 20, and then letting seduce_scheme only do the incest evaluation check if the target character is 20 or older. Everything else seems to be working fine.

 

I am probably missing something, but it doesn't seem hardcoded at all?

[rhiper]

It's not hardcoded, it's a hard check but not a hard code.

[ursula_tt]

Huh, I am bit surprised then that no one's modded that out yet. I guess that means I can go in and tweak the values.

 

Arghh, but that does mean I am missing something because without the incest check bypass in seduce_scheme, I seem to have gotten hard rejects based on age despite removing every bit that checks for that trigger. Tested it with the same character same game when they were 19 and 20.

 

Meh, back to bashing my head against the game code.

[rhiper]

 

I hope you have just worded that weirdly, but it's better to just change the conditions themselves that are written inside the trigger, not modifying references to the trigger, if you still get issues then the problem lays elsewhere.

[Enawn_Anyanamoose]

Like rhipeen said, just modify the trigger itself to lower the age threshold to 18 or whatever it is you're trying to set it to. There's no need to do something as messy as trying to cut out references to it when you can just edit the trigger itself.

[rommel_njak]

I've been trying to mess with those values also, but I guess I'm too stupid to do it with any kind of finesse... or success for that matter

 

I'm guessing that adulthood at 16 is hardcoded in multiple places because even when I succeeded to make characters adult at any age earlier than 16 it borked something with how they get their traits, so they don't get their third trait, or they keep their childhood one, or even don't get their education trait. God awful mess I've made

 

Could someone share with a poor sod with what values and in which files should I look to go about messing with those triggers, so I don't mess everything up... for example removing that 16-19 year incest check.

 

Thanks in advance.

[zeddy2]

 

[hewhocumsbynight]

So, I tried removing the trigger in the various places I could find it (Triggers, Schemes, etc.) and I can now target the scheme at related 16-19 year old targets. But I've got a new problem - every single target now has the -1000 "You're Family" malus applied to the chance for success. This includes characters that are newly generated lowborn, so it's definitely applying the rule to everybody.

Any idea why removing the 'too young for incestual seduction' trigger would suddenly make everybody part of your family?

[rhiper]

46 minutes ago, hewhocumsbynight said:

So, I tried removing the trigger in the various places I could find it (Triggers, Schemes, etc.) and I can now target the scheme at related 16-19 year old targets. But I've got a new problem - every single target now has the -1000 "You're Family" malus applied to the chance for success. This includes characters that are newly generated lowborn, so it's definitely applying the rule to everybody.

Any idea why removing the 'too young for incestual seduction' trigger would suddenly make everybody part of your family?

To indirectly answer your question, if possible never remove triggers like this one but instead change the inner conditions inside them.

[hewhocumsbynight]

2 hours ago, rhipeen said:

To indirectly answer your question, if possible never remove triggers like this one but instead change the inner conditions inside them.

 

Yup. Lesson learned.