Need help getting SSE/SKSE to work properly

[KodderTru]

For the past few months, I have been trying to troubleshoot this on my own, but to no avail. Every time I launch SSE through SKSE, it begins loading, the screen turns black like when it is booting up the game, then immediately crashes while the icon flashes orange. Launching through the normal SSE launcher does not see this issue, it takes me straight to the main menu. I use Vortex Mod Manager and I have never had a problem that I couldn't fix yet. I had a save running with basically all of these mods that just stopped working, in the way that I described, in June. I have since been trying to fix it. I have tried:

-Restarting my computer

-Uninstalling and reinstalling SSE and every single mod cleanly

-Verifying the integrity of the game files

-Disabling every mod and plugin, then verifying the integrity and finally starting through SKSE (Didn't work)

-Checking every mod and plugin for missing masters

-There is no issue with the firewall or protections with my computer

-I clean installed everything once and SKSE wouldn't work then

-And I just uninstalled and reinstalled everything again today to try to get it to work again. SKSE launched Skyrim properly, so I installed everything new (Didn't work)

The only thing I haven't done yet is reach out, so if anyone has any idea what could be going wrong, I would be super grateful. I added a few mods after restarting it all again in hopes that it might actually work. There is a chance I missed something, so any help or ideas are appreciated. Mod order below.

• *Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.espesp
• 2.*hdtHighHeel.esmesm
• 3.*SexLab.esmesm
• 4.*Devious Devices - Assets.esmesm
• 5.*SexLabAroused.esmesm
• 6.*Devious Devices - Integration.esmesm
• 7.*Devious Devices - Expansion.esmesm
• 8.*Devious Devices - Contraptions.esmesm
• 9.*BeeingFemale.esmesm
• 10.*iWant Widgets.eslesl
• 11.*Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esmesm
• 12.*CreatureFramework.esmesm
• 13.*Heels Sound.esmesm
• 14.*High Poly Head.esmesm
• 15.*RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esmesm
• 16.*RaceCompatibility.esmesm
• 17.*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esmesm
• 18.*ZaZAnimationPack - Kopie.esmesm
• 19.*ZaZAnimationPack.esmesm
• 20.*FlowerGirls SE.esmesm
• 21.*Expressive Facegen Morphs.eslesl
• 22.*daymoyl.esmesm
• 23.*SGEyebrows.espesp
• 24.*ApachiiHairFemales.esmesm
• 25.*ApachiiHair.esmesm
• 26.*OSA.esmesm
• 27.*SkyUI_SE.espesp
• 28.*SMIM-SE-Merged-All.espesp
• 29.*Immersive Wenches.espesp
• 30.*Immersive Sounds - Compendium.espesp
• 31.*FNIS.espesp
• 32.*FNIS_PCEA2.espesp
• 33.*FNISSexyMove.espesp
• 34.*OStim.espesp
• 35.*ONights.espesp
• 36.*SimplyKnock.espesp
• 37.*Devious Devices SE patch.espesp
• 38.*SLAnimLoader.espesp
• 39.*SlaveTats.espesp
• 40.*NoOverpenetration.espesp
• 41.*EquipableStockings.espesp
• 42.*SlaveTatsEventsBridge.espesp
• 43.*SexLabDangerousNights2.espesp
• 44.*BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.espesp
• 45.*SOS - Hormones UNP Addon.espesp
• 46.*ZAZpatch.espesp
• 47.*TERAArmorsSSE.espesp
• 48.*JoP - CBBE - TERAArmosSSE.espesp
• 49.*JoP - UUNP - TERAArmosSSE.espesp
• 50.*3BBB.espesp
• 51.*C5Kev's Delicious Daedric Armor 3BA.espesp
• 52.*artWraithTonguesv2.espesp
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• 54.*[COCO]Succubus.espesp
• 55.BVFE.espesp
• 56.*Judgment Wenches.espesp
• 57.*OCum.espesp
• 58.*[RyanReos] High Priestess.espesp
• 59.*Pampas Set.espesp
• 60.*Real Flying.espesp
• 61.*RutahTattooPack SE.espesp
• 62.*Shino Bikini Pack SSE.espesp
• 63.*SFO_SkinFeatureOverlays.espesp
• 64.*CarryweightExtended.espesp
• 65.*TheEyesOfBeauty.espesp
• 66.*HentaiVoidArmor.espesp
• 67.*VampireLeatherArmorSet.espesp
• 68.*VtawWardrobe5.espesp
• 69.*VtawWardrobe4 [SE].espesp
• 70.*E_AtronachArmor.espesp
• 71.*[COCO]Bikini Collection.espesp
• 72.*Maevan2EyeBrows.espesp
• 73.*TW3Eyes.espesp
• 74.*Daily-Wear.espesp
• 75.*[COCO]Asuka Suit.espesp
• 76.*ORomance.espesp
• 77.*OVirginity.espesp
• 78.*SexLab Enchantress.espesp
• 79.*Devious Devices - BRRF.espesp
• 80.*SexLabDefeat.espesp
• 81.*SLALAnimObjBillyy.espesp
• 82.*SexLab Aroused Creatures.espesp
• 83.*NiOverridePoseAdjustments.espesp
• 84.*SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.espesp
• 85.*SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.espesp
• 86.*Sotteta Necromancer Outfit - JoP Patch.espesp
• 87.*RaceMenu.espesp
• 88.*RaceMenuPlugin.espesp
• 89.TAWoBA - JOP Patch.espesp
• 90.*SOSRaceMenu.espesp
• 91.*XPMSE.espesp
• 92.*KSHairdosSMP.espesp
• 93.*KSWigsSMP.espesp
• 94.*DeadlyAssassin.espesp
• 95.*EnhancedLightsandFX.espesp
• 96.JS Armored Circlets SE - JoP Patch.espesp
• 97.customEbonyValkryie1_1 - JoP Patch.espesp
• 98.customEbonyValkyrie1_1 - JS Circlets SE Patch - JoP Patch.espesp
• 99.Daedric Reaper Armor - JoP Patch.espesp
• 100.*AnotherVampireLeatherArmor.espesp
• 101.*AnotherVampireLeatherArmor - JoP Patch.espesp
• 102.*calyps-bosmer.espesp
• 103.*calyps-bosmer - JoP Patch.espesp
• 104.*Sovereign's Slayer Armor SE.espesp
• 105.*TeraSuccubusArmor (CBBE) - JoP Patch.espesp
• 106.*VampireLeatherArmorSet- JoP Patch.espesp
• 107.*HentaiVoidArmor - JoP Patch.espesp
• 108.SkinTight Dragon Wear - JoP Patch.espesp
• 109.*UIExtensions.espesp
• 110.*AddItemMenuSE.espesp
• 111.*ELFX - Exteriors.espesp
• 112.*Tabiah.espesp
• 113.*AmazingFollowerTweaks.espesp
• 114.*SL Deadly Drain.espesp
• 115.*BFCB_Beauti-Full_Clothing_Bodypaints.espesp
• 116.*[COCO]mermaid.espesp
• 117.*Forgotten Wenches.espesp
• 118.*Daedric Chainmail Rework - CBBE 3BBB Bodyslide.espesp
• 119.*dD - Enhanced Blood Main.espesp
• 120.*dD-Larger Splatter Size.espesp
• 121.*KS Hairdo's.espesp
• 122.*The Stranger - Outfit and Cosplay.espesp
• 123.*Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.espesp
• 124.*Wolfpaint_Face.espesp
• 125.*AI Overhaul.espesp
• 126.*Cutting Room Floor.espesp
• 127.*Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.espesp
• 128.*EBT - IC PATCH.espesp
• 129.*Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.espesp
• 130.*ELFX Fixes.espesp
• 131.*Helgen Reborn.espesp
• 132.*DemonicCreatures.espesp
• 133.*SexLab-Stories.espesp
• 134.*SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.espesp
• 135.*MoreNastyCritters.espesp
• 136.*EstrusChaurus.espesp
• 137.*surreal lighting.espesp
• 138.*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_JoP_Patch.espesp
• 139.*SL Survival.espesp
• 140.*ELFX - Weathers.espesp
• 141.*SkyrimImmersionPatch.espesp
• 142.*SexLab-Parasites.espesp
• 143.*Holidays.espesp
• 144.Open Cities Skyrim - Holidays.espesp
• 145.*YurianaWench.espesp
• 146.*SexLab-StoriesDevious.espesp
• 147.*sanguinesDebauchery.espesp
• 148.*DemonicMCM.espesp
• 149.*Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.espesp
• 150.*Deviously Cursed Loot.espesp
• 151.*SexLabSkoomaWhore.espesp
• 152.*DemonicMCMF.espesp
• 153.*SexLab_Dialogues.espesp
• 154.*FNISFlyer.espesp
• 155.*FNISspells.espesp
• 156.*SuccubusRaceLite.espesp
• 157.*SuccubusRaceRealFlyingPatch.espesp
• 158.*OneWithNature.espesp
• 159.*HornyCreatures.espesp
• 160.*Immersive Patrols II.espesp
• 161.*SexLab-AmorousAdventures.espesp
• 162.*TentaCave.espesp
• 163.*Hateful Wenches.espesp
• 164.*Skyrim Flora Overhaul.espesp
• 165.*BooksOfDibella.espesp
• 166.*Demon Armor.espesp
• 167.*JoP - Demon Armor - CBBE.espesp
• 168.*JoP - Demon Armor - TBD.espesp
• 169.*JoP - Demon Armor - UNP.espesp
• 170.*HiveEnemyPack.espesp
• 171.Tera Armor Level List.espesp
• 172.*TeraArmorsSSE Leveled Lists Rare.espesp
• 173.*TeraArmorsSSE RARE USSEP Patch.espesp
• 174.*SkoomaBusiness.espesp
• 175.*adcSexlife.espesp
• 176.*Luxurious Seduction.espesp
• 177.*Bijin AIO.espesp
• 178.PriestsOfTERA.espesp
• 179.Bijin NPCs.espesp
• 180.Bijin Warmaidens.espesp
• 181.*ralfetas-deze-armor.espesp
• 182.Bijin Wives.espesp
• 183.*Joy of Perspective.espesp
• 184.*BD Armor and clothes replacer.espesp
• 185.*FemaleOutfitReplacer.espesp
• 186.*FemaleFeetReplacer.espesp
• 187.*Schlongs of Skyrim.espesp
• 188.*Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.espesp
• 189.*yps-ImmersivePiercing.espesp
• 190.*PuppetMaster.espesp
• 191.*High Poly Head Vampire Fix.espesp
• 192.*FlowerGirls SE - Adventures.espesp
• 193.*Agent of Hermaeus Mora.espesp
• 194.*LADX_SSE.espesp
• 195.*SexLab_Hormones.espesp
• 196.*HentaiCreatures.espesp
• 197.*LADX_SSE - JoP Patch.espesp
• 198.*Destiny2ArmorPack.espesp
• 199.*FAAC.espesp
• 200.*HoldBorderBanners.espesp
• 201.*SexLab_MindControl.espesp
• 202.*Natureborn Body Paints.espesp
• 203.*Ars Metallica.espesp
• 204.*SkyrimReputation_SSE.espesp
• 205.*SkyrimReputation_SSE_Wintersun.espesp
• 206.*Wintersun - USSEP Patch.espesp
• 207.*zDarkArena.espesp
• 208.*Wintersun - SIC Patch.espesp
• 209.*LupineMatriarchArmor.espesp
• 210.*_GSPoses.espesp
• 211.*BVLT - Human.espesp
• 212.*Serana.espesp
• 213.*Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.espesp
• 214.*SucubussSummon.espesp
• 215.*SD Addons.espesp
• 216.*LustmordVampireArmor.espesp
• 217.*[Newmiller] Elven Summoner.espesp
• 218.*Dark Envoy.espesp
• 219.*LustmordVampireArmor - JoP Patch.espesp
• 220.*Dark Envoy - JoP Patch.espesp
• 221.*Neo's Selene.espesp
• 222.*Neo's Selene - JoP Patch.espesp
• 223.*Armored Skirt.espesp
• 224.*SucubussLayerFarms.espesp
• 225.*icepenguinworldmapclassic.espesp
• 226.*ELFX Revised Weather.espesp
• 227.*Immersive Wenches -Enslaved Wenches patch-.espesp
• 228.*Immersive Wenches -KS hairs- Patch.espesp
• 229.*[Melodic] Olga Discordia.espesp
• 230.*Witches.espesp
• 231.*zzEstrus.espesp
• 232.*RaceMenuHH.espesp
• 233.*CommunityOverlays1_0T30.espesp
• 234.*CommunityOverlays2_31T50.espesp
• 235.*CommunityOverlays3.espesp
• 236.*TESL-LoadingScreens.espesp
• 237.*ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.espesp
• 238.*FlowerGirls SE - Wintersun.espesp
• 239.*FlowerGirls SE - IW Patch.espesp
• 240.*LycHairstyler.espesp
• 241.*LycHairstylerFG.espesp
• 242.*[Ryan Reos] Dark Elf Blader.espesp
• 243.*RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.espesp
• 244.*CBBE.espesp
• 245.*RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.espesp
• 246.*Black Thief.espesp
• 247.*SLAL_GSAnimObjects.espesp
• 248.*Better Vampires.espesp
• 249.*Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.espesp
• 250.*Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.espesp
• 251.*RDO - AFT v1.66 Patch.espesp
• 252.*RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.espesp
• 253.*RDO - USSEP Patch.espesp
• 254.Immersive Citizens - OCS patch.espesp
• 255.*Alternate Start - Live Another Life.espesp
• 256.*Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.espesp
• 257.*ELFXEnhancer.espesp
• 258.*elfx enhancer tweaks brighter.espesp
• 259.*RealisticWaterTwo.espesp
• 260.*ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.espesp

[Dorabella]

9 minutes ago, KodderTru said:

-And I just uninstalled and reinstalled everything again today to try to get it to work again. SKSE launched Skyrim properly, so I installed everything new (Didn't work)

you probably have some disturbing and / or malfunctioning and / or incompatible mods

 

Are you sure you have installed the mods correctly?

 

Test:
Disable everything except Skyrim, Update, DLC, if installed, Alternative Start

in game, open the console and type coc qasmoke  or coc_qasmoke . This will throw you into a test room . If the game starts at you, activate the mods a little at a time

 

The Load Order Optimisation Tool  You should optimize the load order and, almost certainly, clean up the Masters SSEEdit

FNIS, does it report errors? Have the various FIX been installed?

[anjenthedog]

is that your mod list or load list. If load list, it looks like you might have exceeded the 255 plugin limit (or 252 depending on who you talk to) 

 

secondly, have you tried using SKSE 2.0.17?  I'm unable to run 2.0.19 in my setup, presumably due to some old SKSE version-dependent mod in my list. I'm not saying it *is* the case for you, but it is a possibility.

[monsta88]

6 hours ago, anjenthedog said:

If load list, it looks like you might have exceeded the 255 plugin limit (or 252 depending on who you talk to)

 

There are probably a few esl flagged esps in there. You can break the 255 limit with those.

[pinky6225]

What version of SKSE are you using and have you tried running skyrim from within vortex by setting SKSE as a primary

 

 

As it should then tell you after the crash what the incompatible plugin / SKSE issue is

 

If you were making it to the beth logo and then crashing it would probably be a missing master file but crashing before reaching that is normally a SKSE incompatibility from my experience (never tried going over the plugin limit myself so might also cause it like the others have mentioned)

 

If vortex doesn't want to play ball and report anything then you could try checking the SKSE logs which are normally \Documents\my games\Skyrim Special Edition\SKSE

 

 

skse64 is the main one although the _loader will have version details

Edited September 10, 2021 by pinky6225

[KodderTru]

13 hours ago, Lestat1627 said:

you probably have some disturbing and / or malfunctioning and / or incompatible mods

 

Are you sure you have installed the mods correctly?

 

Test:
Disable everything except Skyrim, Update, DLC, if installed, Alternative Start

in game, open the console and type coc qasmoke  or coc_qasmoke . This will throw you into a test room . If the game starts at you, activate the mods a little at a time

 

The Load Order Optimisation Tool  You should optimize the load order and, almost certainly, clean up the Masters SSEEdit

FNIS, does it report errors? Have the various FIX been installed?

I installed the mods the same as I always have, and there have been no major problems before.

I disabled everything as you said, the game still would not start up. I have no idea why. Verified the game file integrity as well beforehand.

I cleaned everything with LOOT and SSEEdit, FNIS reported no errors. Still not starting.

I'm probably just going to reinstall everything and test everything one at a time. It probably has something to do with the mods. Thanks for the suggestions though.

[KodderTru]

14 hours ago, anjenthedog said:

is that your mod list or load list. If load list, it looks like you might have exceeded the 255 plugin limit (or 252 depending on who you talk to) 

 

secondly, have you tried using SKSE 2.0.17?  I'm unable to run 2.0.19 in my setup, presumably due to some old SKSE version-dependent mod in my list. I'm not saying it *is* the case for you, but it is a possibility.

I tried using an older version of SKSE. Didn't work. The plugin limit is not exceeded, that is a mod list. I am at 219 plugins.

[anjenthedog]

37 minutes ago, KodderTru said:

I tried using an older version of SKSE. Didn't work. The plugin limit is not exceeded, that is a mod list. I am at 219 plugins.

Ah well, it was worth a try. 

 

best wishes. If I think of anything else I'll post again. 

 

One tip. If it's already broken, adding more mods probably isn't going to help things. 

 

thoughts: I'm not sure how you added your mods. Did you do it in a bulk install operation, or did you check for stable game play inbetween mod installations?  The former method is a recipe for issues. The latter method is a near guarantor that the game will work (even if it has minor hiccups, since you can catch any problematic mods when they are first installed. and uninstall them (and revert to a previous save) before they become deeply embedded error sources.

[KodderTru]

1 hour ago, anjenthedog said:

Ah well, it was worth a try. 

 

best wishes. If I think of anything else I'll post again. 

 

One tip. If it's already broken, adding more mods probably isn't going to help things. 

 

thoughts: I'm not sure how you added your mods. Did you do it in a bulk install operation, or did you check for stable game play inbetween mod installations?  The former method is a recipe for issues. The latter method is a near guarantor that the game will work (even if it has minor hiccups, since you can catch any problematic mods when they are first installed. and uninstall them (and revert to a previous save) before they become deeply embedded error sources.

I bulk installed a handful of them. I'm doing a fresh install of everything anyways, and I'm doing it like you described, so I think it should hopefully work out this time. (hopefully)

[anjenthedog]

Take your time. It's admittedly tedious, but you will avoid many problems by being "plodding" about it.