plutocene Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 Hi all, Im struggling to get my SkyrimSE stable. Using the following mods: Spoiler Loading plugin list: (0 -> 0) Skyrim.esm (1 -> 1) Update.esm (2 -> 2) Dawnguard.esm (3 -> 3) HearthFires.esm (4 -> 4) Dragonborn.esm (5 -> 5) RSkyrimChildren.esm (6 -> 6) Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp (1040384 -> 1040384) Landscape and Water Fixes.esp (1040385 -> 1040385) RealisticWaterTwo - Resources.esm (7 -> 7) ClimatesOfTamriel.esm (8 -> ? SexLab.esm (9 -> 9) Devious Devices - Assets.esm (10 -> 10) SexLabAroused.esm (11 -> 11) Devious Devices - Integration.esm (12 -> 12) Devious Devices - Expansion.esm (13 -> 13) Devious Devices - Contraptions.esm (14 -> 14) Fertility Mode.esm (15 -> 15) CreatureFramework.esm (16 -> 16) RaceCompatibility.esm (17 -> 17) Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm (18 -> 18) GenderBender.esm (19 -> 19) ApachiiHairMales.esm (20 -> 20) ApachiiHairFemales.esm (21 -> 21) ApachiiHair.esm (22 -> 22) ZaZAnimationPack.esm (23 -> 23) Amputator.esm (24 -> 24) High Poly Head.esm (25 -> 25) BadDogSchlongCore.esm (26 -> 26) SexLab - Sexual Fame [SLSF].esm (27 -> 27) SkyUI_SE.esp (28 -> 28) SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp (29 -> 29) ELFX - Exteriors.esp (30 -> 30) Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp (31 -> 31) Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp (1040386 -> 1040386) AOS_ISC_Integration.esp (32 -> 32) TrueStormsSE.esp (33 -> 33) WetandCold.esp (34 -> 34) TrueStorms_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp (35 -> 35) dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp (36 -> 36) EnhancedLightsandFX.esp (37 -> 37) Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp (38 -> 38) Shadows.esp (39 -> 39) JKs Skyrim.esp (40 -> 40) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dungeons-Hardcore.esp (41 -> 41) SD Cages.esp (42 -> 42) Folkvangr - Grass and Landscape Overhaul.esp (43 -> 43) Cutting Room Floor.esp (1040387 -> 1040387) ELFX Fixes.esp (44 -> 44) JK's Blue Palace.esp (45 -> 45) S3DLandscapes NextGenerationForests.esp (46 -> 46) Immersive Encounters.esp (47 -> 47) COR_AllRace.esp (48 -> 48) DungeonsRevisited.esp (49 -> 49) Better Dynamic Snow SE.esp (50 -> 50) Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp (1040388 -> 1040388) JK's Palace of the Kings.esp (51 -> 51) SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp (52 -> 52) MoreNastyCritters.esp (53 -> 53) hearthfireextended.esp (54 -> 54) Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp (55 -> 55) Immersive Weapons.esp (1040389 -> 1040389) Immersive Weapons_WACCF_Patch.esp (56 -> 56) Audio Overhaul Skyrim - True Storms Patch.esp (57 -> 57) Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp (58 -> 58) RSChildren.esp (59 -> 59) RSC CRF Patch.esp (1040390 -> 1040390) WS-JK's Blue Palace.esp (1040391 -> 1040391) JKs Blue Palace - ELFX Patch.esp (1040392 -> 1040392) JKs Palace of the Kings - USSEP Patch.esp (1040393 -> 1040393) JK's Dragonsreach.esp (60 -> 60) SeranaDialogAddon.esp (61 -> 61) Stendarr Rising.esp (1040394 -> 1040394) JK's Elgrims Elixirs.esp (1040395 -> 1040395) JKs Elgrims Elixirs - ELFX Patch.esp (1040396 -> 1040396) JKs Elgrims Elixirs - CRF Patch.esp (62 -> 62) sanguinesDebauchery.esp (63 -> 63) SkyrimSewers.esp (64 -> 64) BaboInteractiveDia.esp (1040397 -> 1040397) JK's Warmaiden's.esp (1040398 -> 1040398) JKs Warmaiden's Harvestable Statics.esp (1040399 -> 1040399) JK's Warmaiden's ELFX patch.esp (1040400 -> 1040400) JKs Blue Palace - USSEP Patch.esp (1040401 -> 1040401) Daughters of Dimitrescu.esp (1040402 -> 1040402) Landscape and Water Fixes - Patch - ELFX.esp (65 -> 65) Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp (1040403 -> 1040403) JK's Radiant Raiment.esp (66 -> 66) Ars Metallica.esp (67 -> 67) icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp (68 -> 68) AncientDraugr.esp (69 -> 69) KS Hairdo's.esp (70 -> 70) TKDodge.esp (71 -> 71) Serana.esp (72 -> 72) Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp (73 -> 73) Bijin Wives.esp (74 -> 74) Footprints.esp (1040404 -> 1040404) KSHairdosSMP.esp (75 -> 75) Unique Uniques.esp (1040405 -> 1040405) Unique Uniques_WACCF_Patch.esp (76 -> 76) Bijin Warmaidens.esp (77 -> 77) MatureSkinComplexions.esp (78 -> 78) MassMatchMakerSE.esp (79 -> 79) ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Warm.esp (80 -> 80) ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-L1.esp (81 -> 81) PsycheAnimationObjects.esp (82 -> 82) DogmaAnimSLAL.esp (83 -> 83) LordAnimObjC.esp (84 -> 84) LordAnimObjH.esp (85 -> 85) SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp (86 -> 86) SLAL_K4Anims.esp (87 -> 87) TheEyesOfBeauty.esp (88 -> 88) AnubAnimObj.esp (89 -> 89) SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp (90 -> 90) NCK30Obj.esp (91 -> 91) SexLab sslAnimationSlots 2000.esp (92 -> 92) SLACS.esp (93 -> 93) Martina.esp (1040406 -> 1040406) COR_TheEyesOfBeauty_Compability Patch.esp (1040407 -> 1040407) WS-JK's The Winking Skeever.esp (1040408 -> 1040408) JK's Bee and Barb.esp (1040409 -> 1040409) JK's White Phial.esp (1040410 -> 1040410) JK's Angelines Aromatics.esp (1040411 -> 1040411) WS-JK's Angeline's Aromatics.esp (1040412 -> 1040412) JK's AngeAroma_ELFX_Patch.esp (1040413 -> 1040413) JKs Angelines Aromatics - USSEP Patch.esp (1040414 -> 1040414) JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp (1040415 -> 1040415) JKs Belethors General Goods - ELFX Patch.esp (1040416 -> 1040416) WS-JK's Belethor's General Goods.esp (1040417 -> 1040417) JK's Candlehearth Hall.esp (1040418 -> 1040418) JK's The Bannered Mare.esp (1040419 -> 1040419) JK's The Ragged Flagon.esp (1040420 -> 1040420) JKs Ragged Flagon - ELFX Patch.esp (1040421 -> 1040421) JK's White Phial_ELFX Patch.esp (94 -> 94) Run For Your Lives.esp (95 -> 95) Cloaks.esp (1040422 -> 1040422) JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub.esp (1040423 -> 1040423) JK's New Gnisis Cornerclub - ELFX Patch.esp (1040424 -> 1040424) JKs Palace of the Kings - ELFX Patch.esp (1040425 -> 1040425) WS-JK's Radiant Raiment.esp (1040426 -> 1040426) Headhunter - Bounties Redone.esp (96 -> 96) SimpleSlavery.esp (1040427 -> 1040427) JK's Bits and Pieces.esp (1040428 -> 1040428) WS-JK's Bits and Pieces.esp (1040429 -> 1040429) JKs Bits and Pieces - ELFX Patch.esp (1040430 -> 1040430) JKs Bits and Pieces - USSEP Patch.esp (1040431 -> 1040431) JK's Arcadia's Cauldron.esp (1040432 -> 1040432) JKs Arcadias Cauldron - ELFX Patch.esp (1040433 -> 1040433) JKs Arcadias Cauldron - USSEP Patch.esp (1040434 -> 1040434) JK's RadReim_ELFX_Patch.esp (1040435 -> 1040435) JKs Radiant Raiment - USSEP Patch.esp (1040436 -> 1040436) JKs Radiant Raiment - Cloaks Patch.esp (1040437 -> 1040437) JK's Sadris Used Wares.esp (1040438 -> 1040438) JK's Sadris Used Wares_ELFX patch.esp (97 -> 97) Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp (98 -> 98) Cloaks - USSEP Patch.esp (99 -> 99) SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp (100 -> 100) HentaiCreatures.esp (101 -> 101) SkyrimBumpRide.esp (102 -> 102) CC'sEnhancedOreVeinsSSE-HearthfirePatch.esp (103 -> 103) FalmerSlaves.esp (1040439 -> 1040439) SexlabLightMeUp.esp (104 -> 104) SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp (105 -> 105) Devious Devices For Him.esp (1040440 -> 1040440) Devious Devices SE patch.esp (106 -> 106) LewdMarks.esp (107 -> 107) Fertility Mode - RSChildren.esp (108 -> 108) Animal_SOS.esp (109 -> 109) EstrusChaurus.esp (110 -> 110) zzEstrus.esp (111 -> 111) FNIS.esp (1040441 -> 1040441) 3BBB.esp (1040442 -> 1040442) 3BBB-RaceMenuMorphs.esp (112 -> 112) TDF Aroused Sexy Idles.esp (113 -> 113) Royal Light Armor BB&B.esp (114 -> 114) Blush When Aroused.esp (115 -> 115) SOS - ERF - Horse Penis Redux Addon.esp (116 -> 116) BDHoodieSchlong.esp (117 -> 117) Schlongs of Skyrim.esp (118 -> 118) BDLoincloth.esp (119 -> 119) MMGSchlong.esp (1040443 -> 1040443) 3BBB-RacenamePatch.esp (120 -> 120) SexLab_Dialogues.esp (1040444 -> 1040444) JKs Dragonsreach - ELFX Patch.esp (121 -> 121) Immersive Patrols II.esp (1040445 -> 1040445) JK's Bee and Barb - ELFX Patch.esp (1040446 -> 1040446) WS-JK's Candlehearth Hall.esp (1040447 -> 1040447) JK's Candlehearth Hall - ELFX Patch.esp (122 -> 122) SpousesEnhancedSE.esp (123 -> 123) MF_RadiantProstitution.esp (1040448 -> 1040448) JKs The Drunken Huntsman.esp (124 -> 124) Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp (1040449 -> 1040449) PaarthurnaxQuestExpansion.esp (125 -> 125) SexLab Eager NPCs.esp (1040450 -> 1040450) JKs Palace of the Kings - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp (126 -> 126) RohZima_AnimObjects.esp (1040451 -> 1040451) JKs Blue Palace - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp (1040452 -> 1040452) JKs Blue Palace - JKs Skyrim Patch.esp (1040453 -> 1040453) JKs The Drunken Huntsman - ELFX Patch.esp (1040454 -> 1040454) JKs Drunken Huntsman - USSEP Patch.esp (1040455 -> 1040455) JKs Palace of the Kings - Cloaks Patch.esp (1040456 -> 1040456) Stendarr Rising - ELFX Patch.esp (1040457 -> 1040457) Stendarr Rising - CRF Patch.esp (127 -> 127) Arnold Schwarzenegger.esp (1040458 -> 1040458) JKs Elgrims Elixirs - Bee and Barb Patch.esp (1040459 -> 1040459) JKs Ragged Flagon - USSEP Patch.esp (1040460 -> 1040460) JK's The Bannered Mare ELFX patch.esp (1040461 -> 1040461) WS-JK's The Bannered Mare.esp (1040462 -> 1040462) DemoGorgon.esp (128 -> 128) SL_Kidnapped_Redux.esp (129 -> 129) SD Addons.esp (130 -> 130) ASOS Race Patch.esp (1040463 -> 1040463) BakaFactoryABC.esp (131 -> 131) High Poly Head Vampire Fix.esp (1040464 -> 1040464) 3BBB-SL_NoStrip.esp (132 -> 132) RaceMenu.esp (133 -> 133) CBBE.esp (134 -> 134) FNISspells.esp (135 -> 135) RaceMenuPlugin.esp (136 -> 136) RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp (137 -> 137) dse-display-model.esp (138 -> 138) SOS - Female Pubics.esp (139 -> 139) SLDrunkRedux.esp (1040465 -> 1040465) SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp (140 -> 140) SlaveTats.esp (141 -> 141) SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp (142 -> 142) SLAL_SHanimAnimObj.esp (143 -> 143) SLAL_ProxyAnimObjects.esp (144 -> 144) NibblesAnimObjects.esp (145 -> 145) KomAnimObjects.esp (146 -> 146) SexLabDefeat.esp (1040466 -> 1040466) (SDZ21) ZaffiriFollower.esp (147 -> 147) SOS - ERF - Futanari CBBE - Addon.esp (148 -> 148) SLAnimLoader.esp (149 -> 149) Sharifa.esp (150 -> 150) SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp (151 -> 151) UIExtensions.esp (152 -> 152) SOSRaceMenu.esp (153 -> 153) XPMSE.esp (154 -> 154) ENB Light.esp (155 -> 155) Immersive Citizens - AI Overhaul.esp (1040467 -> 1040467) JKs Belethors General Goods - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp (1040468 -> 1040468) JKs Warmaidens - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp (156 -> 156) CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp (1040469 -> 1040469) CWIEnLFXSEPatch.esp (1040470 -> 1040470) WS-Immersive College of Winterhold.esp (1040471 -> 1040471) JK's The Winking Skeever.esp (1040472 -> 1040472) JK's_WinSk_ELFX_Patch.esp (1040473 -> 1040473) JKs Bannered Mare - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp (1040474 -> 1040474) JKs Dragonsreach - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp (1040475 -> 1040475) JKs Drunken Huntsman - Immersive Citizens Patch.esp (1040476 -> 1040476) JKs Winking Skeever - USSEP Patch.esp (1040477 -> 1040477) JKs Winking Skeever - Skyrim Sewers Patch.esp (157 -> 157) Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp (1040478 -> 1040478) JKs_The_Winking_Skeever_AlternateStartMods.esp (158 -> 158) pchsWartimes.esp (159 -> 159) nwsFollowerFramework.esp (160 -> 160) ELFXEnhancer.esp (1040479 -> 1040479) JK's Candlehearth Hall Enhanced.esp (1040480 -> 1040480) JKs Palace of the Kings - ELFX Enhancer Patch.esp (161 -> 161) Immersive Citizens - ELFXEnhancer patch.esp (162 -> 162) WSEnhancer.esp (163 -> 163) RealisticWaterTwo.esp (1040481 -> 1040481) ELFX Fixes Ragged Flagon Fix.esp Tried to install as many patches as I could find using Loot, switching stuff in and out to no avail, the game randomly crashes on loading a new cell or when loading a savegame. I tried to interpret the log but I can not find the problem apart from many errors through the whole file coming from various sources. I'm using animslots expansion and some estruss.dll (zzestrusutil.dll) is reported as incompatible by vortex. But neither seem to cause the problems I think. Plugin list, Log and SKSE log attached. Any insight would be greatly appreaciated. Papyrus.0.log skse64.log
plutocene Posted July 8, 2021 Author Posted July 8, 2021 Forgot to attach the framework.log that actually tells a bit of useful information Crash_2021_7_8_12-54-53.txt
plutocene Posted July 8, 2021 Author Posted July 8, 2021 After a long witchhunt blaming every single mod there is and isnt, it seems that the problem is tied to the female character. A male character save will load, a female wont. I reinstalled the skeletons for both male and female sos skeleton with hdt support and the latest xp32 from the nexus for the ladies. They overwrite everything they conflict with. What could be the problem then??? CBPC ? The body mesh? Some clothing?? Any suggestions on how to nail that down? Thanks Crash_2021_7_8_19-56-31.txt
PragmaticPoon Posted July 8, 2021 Posted July 8, 2021 I cant tell by looking at your modlist. I'm not an expert. But I can try to help. I have modded skyrim from scratch a couple of times after deleting and reinstalling. I now have a stable game 60 hours in with 400 mods. In the past, I had problems with both JK's Skyrim and Immersive College of Winterhold. Do you have the patch installed for JK skyrim and College of Winterhold compatibility? Another thing to check is that you haven't accidentally downloaded any mods for plain old skryim or skyrim le. I have accidentally done this before and it will surely crash your game. Also check you haven't accidentally missed any requirements for any mods you have installed. I found mod organizer 2 much easier and better than vortex in almost every respect fwiw. It tells you directly if you're missing requisite mods and loot is built into it which also helps. I also just saw you have apachi hair. I had problems with that mod as well in the past. I use KS hairdos SE. The only other thing is trial and error. This is how I have fixed most problems. Find every mod you have related to the female player character (since thats your problem) and then test them in batches until you resolve the issue. It's best to test this in a new game rather than reloading a save. Disable groups of five - ten mods, whatever you feel comfortable with, and then start a new game and see if you get the issue. When you have a batch that restore the issue, you can start doing it one by one until you find the problem. Sorry I couldn't be more directly helpful but I do hope this helps in some way. Good luck. EDIT: one last thing. I personally chose to pass on sexlab aroused, despite it being required for so many mods, just because it was so bad for performance. I get 60 fps stable, installed just that mod, and was getting frame drops down to about 15-20 fps. It even says and has an option to disable it in large fights but I think it definitely taxes performance.
plutocene Posted July 9, 2021 Author Posted July 9, 2021 Thanks for the reply. I did try to disable said mods and other things to no avail. I then realized that I had at least 2 versions of 3bbb installed and I think that may have been the culprit, some sort of weird version mismatch I was unable to find or fix. I went for the tabula rasa approach and wiped the whole skyrim folder and I havent been able to crash the game so far.
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