metame Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 So I get these random freezes when just walking around Cyrodiil, no CTD or anything. The music keeps playing on the background but everything on screen stays completely still. They seem to occur when the game is loading new areas, however loading screens/fast travelling doesn't seem to have this problem. 10 hours in game time, everything has been working perfectly fine up until this point. A few hours of game time ago I started noticing that saving takes 2-3 seconds longer than usual. Vilja is currently pregnant due to tamago, don't know if that is relevant but IIRC the slow saving started to get slow after/shortly before I found out she's preggers. The freezing seems to happen only when traversing the Tamriel Worldspace, Hasn't happened in any town or interior cells. Will do further testing and update if that changes. EDIT: I'm suspecting that OOO could be the culprit. Earlier in a dungeon my fps dropped to something along the lines of 2 due to a marauder wielding a certain weapon (Fine Iron Glaive or something along those lines) and when I equipped it on myself the fps dropped to 0.5 so the animation on that thing is borked. Maybe some OOO creature's animations have gone wrong and cause the freezes? Here's my load order: Active Mod Files: 00 Oblivion.esm 01 Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm 02 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.33] 03 x117race.esm 04 Lovers with PK.esm 05 TamagoClub.esm 06 HiyokoClub.esm 07 LoversCreature.esm 08 Chanpon.esm 09 DLCShiveringIsles.esp 0A Living Economy.esp 0B Living Economy - Items.esp 0C Cutthroat Merchants.esp ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp 0D Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.33] 0E Knights.esp 0F Alternative Start by Robert Evrae.esp 10 TamagoPlayerHUDkil.esp 11 TamagoBreak.esp 12 TamagoNews.esp 13 TamagoShop.esp 14 TamagoTopic.esp 15 TamagoConfide.esp 16 LoversTamagoClub.esp 17 LoversHiyokoShooter.esp 18 LoversEncounter.esp 19 HiyokoGenerator.esp 1A HiyokoGeneratorCreature.esp 1B LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp 1C LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp 1D LoversRaperS.esp 1E LoversJoburg.esp 1F LoversBed.esp 20 LoversPayBandit.esp 21 Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96] 22 LoversCreature.esp 23 LoversStopCombatEx.esp 24 LoversSpermSplashEx.esp 25 LoversAdultYield.esp 26 LoversHideMenus.esp 27 LoversPower.esp 28 LoversBackup2.esp 29 SetBody.esp 2A AutoSetBody.esp 2B DLCHorseArmor.esp 2C DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp ** Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp ++ x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp 2D Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp ++ Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp 2E x117race.esp ++ x117Race ENG Race.esp 2F Lop-ears Elf_mini.esp ** TNR ALL RACES FINAL.esp ** TNR - ShiveringIsles no helms.esp 30 Harvest [Flora].esp [Version 3.0.0] ++ Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp [Version 3.0.0] 31 Bashed Patch, 0.esp 32 LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp ----> Delinquent MASTER: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 33 LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp 34 MassA.I-50.esp 35 Willow Hut.esp 36 Better Benirus Manor.esp [Version 4.72-SI] 37 Arren.esp 38 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] 39 HentaiLovelyHouse.esp 3A Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
Ark of Truth Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Nope it's not OOO. 1. Your load order is a mess. You will need to fix that first. 2. Does it do it if you disable all of your mods?
GrimReaperCalls Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 How large are your save files? (\Users\You\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves) Could be save file-bloating, has only happened a few times to me but I know some people have had problems with it in the past. One such time, Lovers Joburg was the culprit, try disabling that and other Lovers-mods one at a time. You can also try the Process Monitor (procmon) program (google it) and filter it to the Oblivion directory to see if it's loading any large meshes/textures when it freezes.
metame Posted April 5, 2013 Author Posted April 5, 2013 Nope it's not OOO. 1. Your load order is a mess. You will need to fix that first. 2. Does it do it if you disable all of your mods? I'll see to fixing my load order. I did mine according to the one found on the first post of this: http://www.loverslab.com/topic/23-quick-installation-guide/ Any tips on what I should change? Disabling all mods sounds a bit extreme, wouldn't it more likely just cause more problems in the long run? How large are your save files? (\Users\You\Documents\My Games\Oblivion\Saves) Could be save file-bloating, has only happened a few times to me but I know some people have had problems with it in the past. One such time, Lovers Joburg was the culprit, try disabling that and other Lovers-mods one at a time. You can also try the Process Monitor (procmon) program (google it) and filter it to the Oblivion directory to see if it's loading any large meshes/textures when it freezes. The .ess save files are around 3000kb The .obse save files are around 1900kb The .pluggy save files are arond 950kb procmon shows quite a few buffer overflows with the Oblivion folder path. It also tries to find textures and meshes (mostly tree and dungeon textures) from the Data files folder and comes up with a "NO SUCH FILE" or "PATH NOT FOUND" Result. Shouldn't the files it's looking for be in the bsa archives? Why would it look for them in the Data Files folder.
Guest ThatOne Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 The ess file looks fine, but both the pluggy and obse files look bloated to me. Try using Wrye's remove bloat function. The game looks for the files in your data folder, then if it does not find them there it searches the BSAs. Disabling mods is used to reset them (disable the mod, save your game without it, re-enable it). If your game has major problems, you can use this method to detect if it's the save file or your mods conflicting, overloading your system or are broken in some way.
metame Posted April 5, 2013 Author Posted April 5, 2013 Okay, I disabled every other mod but MBP and OOO and the same freeze happens. The save file must've gotten corrupted, time to start anew and see if I start seeing the same kind of problems. Any tips on improving my load order would be appreciated nevertheless
Ark of Truth Posted April 5, 2013 Posted April 5, 2013 Disable ALL MODS and check. It could be your main game which has got corrupted meaning a complete reinstall.
metame Posted April 5, 2013 Author Posted April 5, 2013 Disable ALL MODS and check. It could be your main game which has got corrupted meaning a complete reinstall. Disabled everything but Oblivion.esm yet problem continues. Might as well just do a full reinstall now just to be sure, I'd rather not lose another char to this problem. I think that's a wrap for this thread then. Thank you for your help everyone!
varenne Posted May 12, 2013 Posted May 12, 2013 ... Any tips on improving my load order would be appreciated nevertheless Yes. You can for all intents and purposes unmerge, disable and remove ++ MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp. Just install the meshes and textures from it. Learned this one recently from gregathit. The later part of you LO has me confused. Why is LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp before LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp? And what is Delinquent MASTER: LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp? And I believe 38 1em_Vilja.esp [Version 4.04] can be above your bashed patch. and definately 3A Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp can go way higher up. My process is to start with the latest BOSS master list, and then follow the LO as setup in the link you have and tweak and adjust for oddball MODs, but for Lovers MODS especially. I also recommend reading up on creating a BOSS userlist too. That helps to place those that are either not list on the BOSS master list, or are wrong in BOSS. (Nothing is ever 100% perfect.) It's very rare to need to put anything under or between LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp and LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp. And again I look to the BOSS master list first for guidance on that too. My 2 cents worth, after taxes...
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