medic975 Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 I'm having a perplexing issue with my Skyrim game. I did a clean install of the game, used TES5edit to clean every single plugin. Ran Boss. Made a Merge and then made a bash patch. I'm also using the base ENB config.(Have tried this with and without ENB and have the same issue, so don't think the problem is there.) When playing the game I'm having a beautiful stable experience. Everything looks great, haven't run into any issues as of yet. I can start a new game and play to my hearts content. Until I have to save. The save process goes fine, but when I want to play again I have CTD's after selecting continue or loading from the the main menu. Here's my Mod list and a Copy of my INI file. Perhaps one of you can point me to an area I may have overlooked. Mod List • 00 Skyrim.esm • 01 Update.esm • 02 Dawnguard.esm • 03 HearthFires.esm • 04 Dragonborn.esm • 05 ApachiiHair.esm • 06 RaceCompatibility.esm • 07 ClimatesOfTamriel.esm • 08 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm • 09 Monli.esm • 0A moonpath.esm • 0B Pretty Followers.esm • 0C SexiS.esm • 0D SPIKE.esm • 0E hdtHighHeel.esm • 0F ZaZAnimationPack.esm • 10 HighResTexturePack01.esp • 11 HighResTexturePack02.esp • 12 HighResTexturePack03.esp • 13 Brawl Bugs CE.esp • 14 Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp • 15 Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp • 16 Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp • 17 Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp • 18 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp • 19 AdrianneAvenicci.esp • 1A Ysolda.esp • 1B RevampedExteriorFog.esp • 1C better_torches_brighter_torchlight.esp • 1D fantasy music overhaul.esp • 1E fantasy music overhaul - no vanilla music.esp • 1F fantasy music overhaul - unique town music.esp • 20 StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp • 21 StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp • 22 Cat_mount.esp • 23 ktxcompleteskyforge.esp • 24 Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - 2x Brighter.esp • 25 Legionettes.esp • 26 PerkPointPotion.esp • 27 sextoys-calyps-2.esp • 28 SkyUI.esp • 29 Blade and Soul Qipao.esp • 2A Blindfolds_of_Skyrim.esp • 2B BnS Red Bird Outfit.esp • 2C BnS Scorpion Set.esp • 2D BnS White Bird Outfit.esp • 2E Cloaks.esp • 2F Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp • 30 1nivWICCloaks.esp • 31 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp • 32 CraftableHoods.esp • 33 Daedric Extra Armor.esp • 34 DAO Morrigan's Robes.esp • 35 selobl_DarkLillith.esp • 36 Dovahkiin Mercenary Armor and Weapons CBBE.esp • 37 elegantvampirearmor.esp • 38 Infinity Blade Hero Set.esp • 39 LadyKdCirclets.esp • 3A KURESE Gloria conversion.esp • 3B LayerBikini.esp • 3C LustmordVampireArmor.esp • 3D MaskofBlades.esp • 3E Nouserhere Ears.esp • 3F Onechanbara Kagura Set.esp • 40 Osare Underwear.esp • 41 Schwertleite Set.esp • 42 Silverlight Armor.esp • 43 Sovngarde Steel Armor and Weapons.esp • 44 StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp • 45 The Well Dressed Mage.esp • 46 UNP Leather Clothes.esp • 47 UNP Boots 02.esp • 48 UNPB Barbarian Armor.esp • 49 Werehide.esp • 4A Witch Elf Armour.esp • 4B zz_GDRAHoods.esp • 4C CraftableODPM.esp • 4D moonpath_questdata.esp • 4E My Home Is Your Home.esp • 4F The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp • 50 Tundra Defense.esp • 51 BR_HoodCirclets.esp • 52 Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp • 53 orc-female-idle-fix.esp • 54 unreadbooksglow.esp • 55 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp • 56 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp • 57 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp • 58 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp • 59 Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Minor Cities and Town Interiors.esp • 5A ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-1.esp • 5B ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp • 5C Better Vampires.esp • 5D ToL_SKSE_by_Brevi.esp • 5E FNISspells.esp • 5F NiruinsBusinessPlan.esp • 60 SexiSCupid.esp • 61 _NewHair.esp • 62 N_43 Hair Pack.esp • 63 Monli.esp • 64 3DNPC.esp • 65 UFO - Dawnguard AddOn.esp • 66 UFO - Heartfire AddOn.esp • 67 UFO - AllwaysDrawWeapons.esp • 68 BrelynaMaryon.esp • 69 Esmeralda.esp • 6A HousecarlRiften.esp • 6B HousecarlSolitude.esp • 6C HousecarlWindhelm.esp • 6D MonliFollowers.esp • 6E Pretty Followers.esp • 6F Sneaky_Serana.esp • 70 Uthgerd.esp • 71 Saadia.esp • 72 SMSkyrim.esp • 73 Eurydice.esp • 74 DudestiaMultiMarriages.esp • 75 EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp • 76 Spousetocustomhome.esp • 77 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp • 78 ethereal_elven_overhaul.esp • 79 barenziahquestmarkers.esp • 7A jaxonzsksetester.esp • 7B Blade and Soul Negligee.esp • 7C BeadsBikini-MTM.esp • 7D BarbarianExplorer.esp • 7E dibella_priestessesHF.esp • 7F DA2 Bethany Robes.esp • 80 Hvergelmir's Redesigned Housecarls - HRH.esp • 81 Huntress.esp • 82 Hooves.esp • 83 zzTravellerHoods.esp • 84 zzAharaPOTWHood-Hair.esp • 85 Ivy Valentine Armor.esp • 86 FemaleCityGuardsAndSoldiers.esp • 87 Aela-DefaultHair.esp • 88 AthenaHairFixed.esp • 89 Calista Summerstar.esp • 8A zzFeathers.esp • 8B DungeonExplorer.esp • 8C ErynielElfV2.esp • 8D forsworn-trouble.esp • 8E dunDarklightIllia.esp • 8F hdtHighHeelMCM.esp • 90 zzEEOFollowers.esp • 91 _zzCCCHairs.esp • 92 ZaZAnimationPackConfig.esp • 93 wjunlady.esp • 94 helf16l.esp • 95 Tera Val Tirkai - UNPB BBP.esp • 96 Skull Armor.esp • 97 rosarmor.esp • 98 SUNMagicArmor.esp • 99 Armor_Hero_SBear.esp • 9A SexAddict.esp • 9B sx3 - core.esp • 9C MaritalBliss.esp • 9D fantasy music overhaul - tropical edition.esp • 9E Mergtastic.esp • 9F Bashed Patch, 0.esp Ini list [General] sLanguage=ENGLISH uExterior Cell Buffer=64 uGridsToLoad=7 bBorderRegionsEnabled=1 iLargeIntRefCount=999999 [Display] iBlurDeferredShadowMask=0 fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000 fShadowDistance=8000.0000 fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0 fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0 fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0 iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048 iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=4096 bTreesReceiveShadows=1 bDrawLandShadows=1 bAllowScreenshot=1 fSunUpdateThreshold=0.2000 fSunShadowUpdateTime=0.0000 iTexMipMapSkip=0 [Audio] fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0 fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0 fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0 fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0 [Grass] bAllowCreateGrass=1 bAllowLoadGrass=0 iMinGrassSize=80 bShadowsOnGrass=1 [GeneralWarnings] SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information. [Archive] sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa [Combat] fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0 fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0 f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7 f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7 [Papyrus] fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0 bEnableLogging=0 bEnableTrace=0 bLoadDebugInformation=0 [Water] bReflectLODObjects=1 bReflectLODLand=1 bReflectSky=1 bReflectLODTrees=1 iWaterReflectWidth=512 iWaterReflectHeight=512 [Actor] fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000 [Particles] iMaxDesired=750 any help would be greatly appreciated.
Todd420 Posted March 27, 2013 Posted March 27, 2013 open a previous save. that one's screwed. how good are you with a hex editor?
shedidwhat Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 I am running 11 less active items than you, ( using have 6 gigs memory 1 gig video memory ) I too CTD when starting saved game ( but usually only when I have updated a mod that uses SkyUI's MCM ) tring to restart that same saved game a 2nd time works 99% of the time. I have gotten into the habbit of saving while I am only in 1st person and looking at 1 object like a wall ( never a npc ) and indoors if possable to try to lessen the amount of meshes and textures having to be loaded at startup. I defrag the harddrive that skyrim is on about every 2 days ( I do alot of mod swaping, testing and editing ) and rebuild the bashed patch after every ESM or ESP edit I have not needed to make a merged patch yet... --if you can start the game and run it just fine, only thing I can think of would be have you tried with the highres texture packs disabled ? or with the Tes5Edits merged patch disabled what does your SKSE.log and Papyrus.log look like ? is SKSE up to date, version 1.6.13 and starting the game with SKSE and not default skyrim icon or steam ? and whats the size of your save file ? ( any bloating ) for reference : at 2 hours of game play my save game is at 7.2 megs only other thing.. does it also happen if you force a save ? open console and type save yourcharactersnamehere
medic975 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 open a previous save. that one's screwed. how good are you with a hex editor? I'm totally inexperienced with a hex editor. I haven't tried it with anything disabled yet but I will try all those suggestions and see what happens. Here's my papyrus log. well the last 14 lines of it anyhow there were a lot of warnings and errors in it. [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1PlayerTurnedVampire on script DudestiaSpouseScript attached to alias Spouse on quest DudestiaMultiMarriages (74000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] Error: Property Alias_Innkeeper on script ffHBusiness attached to ffHooker5 (5F03BD33) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (8) on <NULL quest> (5F03BD33) is not the right type [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] Error: Property Alias_strapon on script ffHBusiness attached to ffHooker5 (5F03BD33) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (6) on <NULL quest> (5F03BD33) is not the right type [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] Error: Property Alias_underwear on script ffHBusiness attached to ffHooker5 (5F03BD33) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (4) on <NULL quest> (5F03BD33) is not the right type [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] Error: Property Alias_Bed on script ffHBusiness attached to ffHooker5 (5F03BD33) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (5) on <NULL quest> (5F03BD33) is not the right type [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] Error: Property Alias_Follower on script ffHBusiness attached to ffHooker5 (5F03BD33) cannot be bound because <NULL alias> (3) on <NULL quest> (5F03BD33) is not the right type [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1WerewolfMaxPerks on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property ActorTypeNPC on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1GorgingDurationSeconds on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1SavageFeedingPerk on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1GorgingPerk on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1AnimalVigor on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1WerewolfTotalPerksEarned on script playerwerewolfchangescript attached to PlayerWerewolfQuest (0002BA16) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property [03/27/2013 - 08:47:54PM] warning: Property DLC1PlayerTurnedVampire on script DudestiaSpouseScript attached to alias Spouse094 on quest DudestiaMultiMarriages (74000D62) cannot be initialized because the script no longer contains that property SKSE is up to date and I'm using the SKSE launcher to start the game have the SKSE Tester installed and it says it's running fine at start up. I'm not sure where to find the SKSE log though. Biggest save file is 6179 kb which was about an hour or so of gameplay Off to try it with merge disabled along with the other things mentioned. I appreciate the help.
polluxval Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 im not sure, but i think the music overhaul is the culprit. try disabling it and deleting (just for test) the music folder, make a new game and after a couple of minutes and exploration, save and try. let us know the results.
medic975 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 Okay. If I disable the mod I CTD before the load screen finishes. If I disable the mod and delete the music folder I also CTD before the load screen finishes. All of them installed and folder in place can load a new game just fine. Ran around for a minute faced a smelter until it filled the screen and saved. CTD when trying to load it.
aljustineg Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 have you tried to load your save game without mods
medic975 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 Save loads with only the skyrim.esm, update.esm, and the three dlc esm's. However the screen flickers between the wall I am facing and black back and forth and I am unable to do anything but open the console. Just tried it with the High res textures disabled and no dice there either same ctd behavior.
polluxval Posted March 28, 2013 Posted March 28, 2013 try this: reactivate all mods. delete (make bakcup copies): skyrim.ini skyrimprefs.ini run skyrim launcher atleast once. try again.
medic975 Posted March 28, 2013 Author Posted March 28, 2013 No dice. Same effect. I do have a copy of my data folder before I loaded the game and added the bash and merge patches. I may drop it in there and see if I can remove the replacer files. I'm attaching the full papyrus log in case it might be helpful in some way. I have to crash for the evening. But I appreciate the pointers and help from you all. Just a shame it's bugging out like this as the game looks amazing while I'm playing it. Papyrus.0.zip
medic975 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Posted March 31, 2013 I tried it earlier, but no dice. I ended up just reinstalling fresh. Scrubed everything and went to the step wiki and followed their instructions to the letter and added the extra mods I wanted. I ended up killing off Niriun's business plan, Fantasy Music Overhaul, and a few of the NPC mods from my install list. I can play and save now. Thank you for all for all the assitance.
TomahawkChop Posted March 31, 2013 Posted March 31, 2013 Did you tried loading your oldest working save file then load ur recent file? try it when it happened again
medic975 Posted March 31, 2013 Author Posted March 31, 2013 I did try it. But honestly the fresh install, for the umpteenth time, seemed the easier option. I got it to work for awhile. Game ran fine. Until just now when I got back from dinner and got an error code 51 from ole steam when I try to launch it from SKSE or the Vanilla launcher. I'm seriously about 2 steps away from kicking steam in the balls. Got it working. Sheesh. You know I love this game when I'm willing to do all this to make a few pixels prettier.
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