Mailamea Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 So i recently acquired my new laptop. It can run Skyrim as well as Fallout and Oblivion and Ultra settings. I have updated all of its drivers from sony's website, have double checked if i missed a driver and all is installed. But when i open Oblivion's settings I can't turn on Shadow Filter , so i changed the shadow slider to max, still no shadows are appearing. I tried changing bdrawshadow = 1 in Oblivion.ini tried fshadowfiltering = 10 in Oblivion.ini and tried every shadow settings in the ini to = 1 or = 2048 for the size. But i still can't get shadow to appear. Main point is shadow is not working. Take note that i can't enable shadow filtering in the options. Help -------------------------------------------------- EDIT : Also anyone knows whats causing this error?[spoiler=Image] My Load Order : [spoiler=List]00 Oblivion.esm01 Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm [Version 4.5b]02 Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm [Version 4.5b]03 Cobl Main.esm [Version 1.72]04 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm [Version 1.34]05 Mart's Monster Mod.esm [Version 3.7b3p3]06 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esm07 TamrielTravellers.esm [Version 1.39c]08 FCOM_Convergence.esm [Version 0.9.9a7]09 HorseCombatMaster.esm0A Hair Style Master.esm0B Lovers with PK.esm0C LoversCreature.esm0D DLCShiveringIsles.esp0E Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp0F Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp10 Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp11 Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp++ FCOM_Francescos.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp [Version 0.9.9]12 FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp [Version 0.9.9]13 Fran Armor Add-on.esp14 Fran_Lv30Item_Maltz.esp15 Living Economy.esp16 Living Economy - Items.esp17 Cutthroat Merchants.esp18 KDCircletsOOOOptimized - NPC Equip.esp [Version 1.2]++ FCOM_KDCircletsOOOOptimizedNPCEquip.esp [Version 0.9.9]19 ExnemRuneskulls.esp++ FCOM_ExnemRuneskulls.esp [Version 0.9.9]1A Slof's Oblivion Robe Trader.esp1B Cobl Glue.esp [Version 1.72]1C OOO 1.32-Cobl.esp [Version 1.72]++ FCOM_Cobl.esp [Version 0.9.9]1D Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp1E FCOM_BobsArmory.esp [Version 0.9.9]1F Loth's Blunt Weapons for Npcs.esp++ FCOM_LothsBluntWeapons.esp [Version 0.9.9]20 Oblivion WarCry EV.esp [Version 1.08a]21 FCOM_WarCry.esp [Version 0.9.9]22 Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp [Version 1.34]++ OOO-Water_Weeds.esp [Version 1.33]23 FCOM_Convergence.esp [Version 0.9.9]24 FCOM_RealSwords.esp [Version 0.9.9]25 Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]26 Mart's Monster Mod - Extra Wounding.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]27 Mart's Monster Mod - Dungeons of MMM.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]28 Mart's Monster Mod - Gems & Gem Dust.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]29 Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]2A Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]2B Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Slof Horses Complete.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Runeskulls Loot G&GD.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ TamrielTravellerAdvScript.esp [Version 1.39c]2C TamrielTravellers4OOO.esp [Version 1.39c]++ TamrielTravellersItemsNPC.esp [Version 1.39c]2D TamrielTravellersItemsCobl.esp [Version 1.39c]++ FCOM_TamrielTravelers.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_DiverseGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_BobsGuardUnity.esp [Version 0.9.9]** FCOM_Archery.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_ArcheryRealSwords.esp [Version 2]** FCOM_ArcheryHunting&Crafting.esp [Version 1]** FCOM_FriendlierFactions.esp [Version 0.9.9]2E FCOM_MoreRandomSpawns.esp [Version 0.9.9]2F FCOM_MoreRandomItems.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ OOOLivingEconomyWornRebalance.esp30 OOO-WaterFish.esp [Version 1.34]++ MMM-Cobl.esp [Version 1.69]31 Mighty Umbra.esp32 MannimarcoRevisited.esp33 MannimarcoRevisitedOOO.esp [Version 0.1]34 Mart's Monster Mod - City Defences.esp [Version 3.7b3p3]++ FCOM_MightyUmbra.esp [Version 0.9.9]++ FCOM_SlofsRobeTrader.esp [Version 0.9.9]35 Enhanced Daedric Invasion.esp++ FCOM_EnhancedDaedricInvasion.esp [Version 0.9.9]36 xuldarkforest.esp [Version 1.0.4]37 xulStendarrValley.esp [Version 1.2.2]38 xulTheHeath.esp39 MMMMWL-TheHeath patch.esp3A XulEntiusGorge.esp3B xulFallenleafEverglade.esp [Version 1.3.1]3C xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp [Version 1.2.1]3D xulChorrolHinterland.esp [Version 1.2.2]3E xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp [Version 1.6.4]3F xulBravilBarrowfields.esp [Version 1.3.2]40 xulLushWoodlands.esp [Version 1.3]41 xulAncientYews.esp [Version 1.4.2]42 xulAncientRedwoods.esp [Version 1.6]43 xulCloudtopMountains.esp [Version 1.0.3]44 xulArriusCreek.esp [Version 1.1.3]45 xulPatch_AY_AC.esp [Version 1.1]46 xulRollingHills_EV.esp [Version 1.3.2]47 MMMMWL-RollingHills patch.esp48 xulPantherRiver.esp49 xulRiverEthe.esp [Version 1.0.2]4A xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp [Version 1.0.2]4B xulImperialIsle.esp [Version 1.6.3]4C xulBlackwoodForest.esp4D xulCheydinhalFalls.esp [Version 1.0.1]4E xulAspenWood.esp [Version 1.0.1]4F xulSkingradOutskirts.esp++ FCOM_UnofficialFranArmorAddon.esp [Version 0.9.9]50 Bashed Patch, 0.esp51 FOV Modifier.esp52 Alternative Beginnings.esp [Version 1.4.1]53 DropLitTorchOBSE.esp [Version 2.4]54 SP1stPLegs.esp55 Mounted_Spellcasting_Deadly_Reflex_Compatible.esp56 Deadly Reflex 6 - Timed block and 150% damage.esp57 DeadlyReflex 6 - Combat Moves.esp58 Deadly Reflex 6 - HeX NifSE Patch.esp59 BountyHunter.esp5A Specialanims.esp5B AutoSetBody.esp5C SetBody.esp5D SetbodyBB.esp5E Moonshadow Elves - Sc.esp5F DMRA Stock Armor Skimpy.esp60 DMRA Skimpy Armor Expanded.esp61 DMRA Stock Robe Skimpy Replacer.esp62 DMRA Stock Clothing Skimpy.esp63 CTAddPose_osr1.esp64 CTAddPose_osr2.esp65 CTAddPose_osr3.esp66 Chain it!.esp67 LoversChorus.esp68 LoversRaperS.esp69 LoversCreature.esp6A Lovers with PK.esp [Version 96]6B PlayerSlaveEncounters_V0.63.esp6C LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp6D LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp6E LoversMotionsNT.esp I tried with LoversMotionsNT disabled still the same error
myuhinny Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 I have no clue but it might be a good idea to to tell the name of the laptop OS drivers and components that the laptop has like video card how much ram and so forth. It would give people a better idea what you have and what needs to be done to fix it.
Mailamea Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 So here is what i meant. As you see no shadows are casted in the picture, not even tree shadows are working. Finally set up my Oblivion fully modded, and working smoothly the only problem is the shadow. ------- My New character : Mia Scarlet She woke up in the middle of nowhere only to find out that her belongings are missing and also her memory. (Struggling to get back up)
Mailamea Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Laptop Specs : Sony VPCEG1VFX 6GB Memory DDR3 Windows 8 Pro 64bit DirectX11 IntelHDGraphics 3000 2048Mb (1366x768) Driver version 2.2828 2013 ............ Dunno the problem is but i can run crysis2,DMC5 and other games with settings to high, but my oblivion detects i cant turn on shadow filtering. Like i said the shadow slider works but nothing happens
Mailamea Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Have you turned on self-shadow in options? lol did you even read what i've said? Yes everything related to shadow in the Oblivion.ini i have turned on.
Ark of Truth Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Let me go check something. Seems like though you don't a GPU chipset which supports shadow shading. Don't think that is the case though if Skyrim has shadows working. Let me move from my phone to my PC.
Ark of Truth Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 The lover's error is due to the Lovers resource pack being install incorrectly.
Mailamea Posted March 18, 2013 Author Posted March 18, 2013 Let me go check something. Seems like though you don't a GPU chipset which supports shadow shading. Don't think that is the case though if Skyrim has shadows working. Let me move from my phone to my PC. im 100% sure that is not the problem. I can render shadows with skyrim. dmc5. and crysis2 just fine. heres my .ini http://www.mediafire.com/view/?hctt5857op2ofxd
Ark of Truth Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 Let me go check something. Seems like though you don't a GPU chipset which supports shadow shading. Don't think that is the case though if Skyrim has shadows working. Let me move from my phone to my PC. im 100% sure that is not the problem. I can render shadows with skyrim. dmc5. and crysis2 just fine. heres my .ini http://www.mediafire.com/view/?hctt5857op2ofxd You could of just attached the file to a post or PMed me it Mediafire may slap you on the wrist. Looking at your load order you have installed everything using batch. Personally I would of installed everything using drag and drop and sorted using Oblivion Mod Manager. Can you double check the model of your computer is correct by using the sticker on the bottom of the computer, if you haven't alreayd? I can't find that model at all on the Sony website. If you can provide the site which you brought it off as well that would be great Should look something like this Before we sorted out anything else make sure that Gamers OSD is not installed on your laptop as that will cause Oblivion to lose shadows. Also make sure you are using the most up to date drivers for your graphics. After doing that go into the game and open the console, when the console is open type in the following command. SetWeather 38EEE 1 Sure the game's wait function to advanced time forward 1 hour, this will cause the game to update the weather. The code will make the game weather sunny and that "1" at the end will make the weather permanent. We can disable this later when the issue is fixed. By doing this the game will be constantly sunny which inturn should be forcing the game to render shadows whenever you are outside. But looking at your picture you can see shadows.....At least I think you can on one of the pillars by your feet. I'll just sit here and do some testing
Ark of Truth Posted March 18, 2013 Posted March 18, 2013 OK, I copied your ini shadow settings into my game. I can say that it's not your shadow settings which are causing the issue. Going to copy the entire ini in there now. Will most likely kill my game though but what the heck. Desperate times call for desperate measures EDIT: THAT WAS EXTREMELY STUPID OF ME TO DO!!! XD Game no longer loads, good thing I backed my ini up before doing it.
Mailamea Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 OK, I copied your ini shadow settings into my game. I can say that it's not your shadow settings which are causing the issue. Going to copy the entire ini in there now. Will most likely kill my game though but what the heck. Desperate times call for desperate measures EDIT: THAT WAS EXTREMELY STUPID OF ME TO DO!!! XD Game no longer loads, good thing I backed my ini up before doing it. Heres my laptop : Link Gamers OSD? is that the graphic driver like catalyst or nvdia control panel? cuz i have installed the latest graphic driver and don't have a gamer osd. The shadow from the pillar is not really a shadow thats a Lightning its darker there since the sun goes around the pillar. I have no shadows, even self shadows isn't working. On top of that shadow filtering isn't turnable on the settings its blacked out. Which is weird cause my gfx is pixelshader 5 supported and can run Skyrim(checked),Crysis2(checked),DMC5(Checked) on high settings with shadows working fine. I don't even bet its in the ini, some freaking hex curse is happening lol
Ark of Truth Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 Right leave it with me and I'll "sacrifice" my game for this. We will get this working even if it takes a week and a headache later
Mailamea Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 Right leave it with me and I'll "sacrifice" my game for this. We will get this working even if it takes a week and a headache later look i can run skyrim fine. [spoiler=Image]
Mailamea Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 Try disabling all mods and check. Already done that
RitualClarity Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 It is possible that the game isn't recognizing the video card as having valid support for the shadows. Some might work but other won't. The newer game engines could have addition/changes that allow for the proper playing of HD. Intel intergrated graphic after all isn't what is expected. I have ran into this issue with various graphic/processor combinations at work and personally. One function or another just dosn't work correclty. Currently Mass Effect 1 when half way through going to the research facility. The characters black out. Not available. No fixing at all can be done. I hope this isn't the case for you. Perhaps you might be able to "fake" or trick the game into thinking you have a video card with the correct capabilities.
Mailamea Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 It is possible that the game isn't recognizing the video card as having valid support for the shadows. Some might work but other won't. The newer game engines could have addition/changes that allow for the proper playing of HD. Intel intergrated graphic after all isn't what is expected. I have ran into this issue with various graphic/processor combinations at work and personally. One function or another just dosn't work correclty. Currently Mass Effect 1 when half way through going to the research facility. The characters black out. Not available. No fixing at all can be done. I hope this isn't the case for you. Perhaps you might be able to "fake" or trick the game into thinking you have a video card with the correct capabilities. The video card obviously has the correct capabilities since Skyrim can run ultra high with shadows. The case here i think based on what ive been googling all freaking morning to fix this issue is the game not detecting properly what gfx card i have. Really annoying, i hope there can be a fix for this. BTW mass effect 3 runs fine here with no errors
RitualClarity Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 It is possible that the game isn't recognizing the video card as having valid support for the shadows. Some might work but other won't. The newer game engines could have addition/changes that allow for the proper playing of HD. Intel intergrated graphic after all isn't what is expected. I have ran into this issue with various graphic/processor combinations at work and personally. One function or another just dosn't work correclty. Currently Mass Effect 1 when half way through going to the research facility. The characters black out. Not available. No fixing at all can be done. I hope this isn't the case for you. Perhaps you might be able to "fake" or trick the game into thinking you have a video card with the correct capabilities. The video card obviously has the correct capabilities since Skyrim can run ultra high with shadows. The case here i think based on what ive been googling all freaking morning to fix this issue is the game not detecting properly what gfx card i have. Really annoying, i hope there can be a fix for this. BTW mass effect 3 runs fine here with no errors Exactly. It should be able to play it. It just isn't "seeing" the graphic card correctly. Because of this it isn't working correctly even though it should and can. Sorry if I confused you with the post. Unlike my fix "faking" the settings it has been advised by About.com not to do it for Oblivion. That idea is out as a bad idea.
RitualClarity Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 What graphic card is shown in the Oblivion:Options? Is it actually the Intel HD3000 Graphic Card that you have or something else. If it is showing the correct graphic card there it is likely recognizing the card correctly.
Mailamea Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 What graphic card is shown in the Oblivion:Options? Is it actually the Intel HD3000 Graphic Card that you have or something else. If it is showing the correct graphic card there it is likely recognizing the card correctly. its displaying correctly i hope i can fix this. Any idea how to trick oblivion with another gfx card? its really annoying
Ark of Truth Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 I have a solution I'll stand behind you and cast shadows on your screen OK, on a more seroius note I did manage to make some progress yesterday and have found what might be the cause. Sadly I ended up falling asleep before I could finish finding out if it was the cause.But what do you expect when you stay on the computer from 11am until 2am the next morning trying to fix a issue Make sure that the game is closed and open the Windows Command Console. Type in the following exactly tlb Load Oblivion again and see if shadows load. If they do great!, If everything has gone really bright simplying close the game, go back to the console and enter the command again to stop that from happening. Also when you start Oblivion make sure that you go into options and select the following. Graphics level: High HDR: Enabled
Ark of Truth Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 As for being able to run Skyrim, DMC5 and Crysis 2 with shadows that doesn't really mean anything as each game uses a different engine for rendering shadows. Oblivon: Gamebyro New Vegas: Gamebyro Skyrim: Creation Engine Crysis 2: CryEngine3 DmC 5; Unreal Engine 3 Only do this next bit if the above solution has not worked. If you can try installing New Vegas. NV uses the same game engine for graphics which means it renders shadows the same way as Oblivion. If it doesn't show shadows it's a conflict with the engine and the chipset. If it does display shadows then Oblivion is derping.If you are using the Steam version try verifying the cache to make sure the shadow resources were downloaded. As far as I can remember you had Windows 8 on your odd computer. Did you ever play Oblivion with Windows 8 and were shadows working back then?
RitualClarity Posted March 19, 2013 Posted March 19, 2013 What graphic card is shown in the Oblivion:Options? Is it actually the Intel HD3000 Graphic Card that you have or something else. If it is showing the correct graphic card there it is likely recognizing the card correctly. its displaying correctly i hope i can fix this. Any idea how to trick oblivion with another gfx card? its really annoying If you look at nexus there is a fix for fallout Nv. However trying to find the fix or trick for Oblivion I found one really knowlegable site that says trying this with Oblivion gives Dx errors. Oblivion dosn't like people messing or tricking it. It is left for the very last step when all else fails. It might also cause issus with other things although unlikely. Maybe if your lucky there might be some .ini config for graphic other than shadows? Like the config options in FO3 for processor priority. I believe The Ark of Truth is on the correct path for diag this problem. However I believe that FNV even though using the same engine. It has been changed a bit from Oblivion to FNV. These changes might/might not affect how the shadows on the game. You have done everything correct. You have the skill for config, driver and Oblivion setup. You know what is needed. When The Ark of Truth finishes testing I believe it will come down to the fact that HD3000 and Oblivion just don't like each other. You may find this effect with other games in the future. I work closely with people who sell, fix and support computers and they all would say that this graphic choice isn't the best one for gaming.
Mailamea Posted March 19, 2013 Author Posted March 19, 2013 Ark toggle light bright isn't working tried it already last day. Also if you review my .ini that i sent well, you can clearly see HDR and graphics are already set to high. This is really bugging me since the world looks very bright without shadows, also on other note i found out that trees cast shadows, but only TREES. ------------------- RitualClarity thanks for the info, also ill go try and test my NV and Fo3 if they cast shadows. I really hope HD3000 doesnt have an issue with Oblivion. Dang also i found something too, Oblivion at ultra high 40fps, skyrim at ultra high 50-65 FPS, is that because CreationEngine(Gamebyro3) is more stable and optimized?
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