BBB stretch?

[Nidhugg]

I've got the BBB texture stretch thingy but I can't find the cause of it, I've got the Universal Skeleton (Controllable). I've tried using the skeleton that came with LAPF. I've tried disabling NoMaans BBB animations. Stretching occurs on both clothing and body (and my body replacer doesn't seem to register, but SetBody works). Got any ideas?

 

OBSE plugins are:

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MenuQue

Blockhead

Elys_USV

EngineBugFixes

FastExit2

Pluggy

sr_Oblivion Stutter Removal

Trifle

 

 

Load order

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Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
CM Partners.esm
Knights - Revelation.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
Better Cities .esp
Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
MOBS SI.esp
MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
More Effective Enchantments.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp
Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp
OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp
Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp
More Effective Enchantments Francescos.esp
Knights - Revelation.esp
LoversSituations.esp
Servant of the Dawn.esp
CurseOfHircine.esp
LoversBitch.esp
Growlfs Animated Hair.esp
Fransfemale.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversHorseRider2.esp
CM Partners.esp
LoversProstitute.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
MidasSpells.esp
Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp
Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp
Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp
RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
FuroGeneratorTrap.esp
LoversChorus.esp
LoversSetScale.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversBed.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversCreature.esp
SetBody.esp
LoversJoystick.esp
LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversBackup2.esp
LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversLight.esp
BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
No psychic guards v1.2.esp
Unequip Broken Armor.esp
Mass Decay.esp
LoversMagic - Born To It.esp
xlds.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp
Better Cities - MOBS.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp
UOPversionVoicesForFemaleDremora.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
LINK.esp
Ultimate Leveling.esp
CM Spiderling Vae Victis.esp
DMRA BBB Crusader Armor - Revelation.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Armors.esp
LoversPrimaBooks1.esp
LoversPrimaBooks2.esp
LoversTentacleFuta.esp
LSTaddonInH.esp
LVSSP_Creatures.esp
xldsFuro.esp
GBRsRAMpurge.esp
OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
Stav_ImperialDragon.esp
VanillaRealArmorReplacer.esp
Unique Landscapes.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp
ULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp
Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp
Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
DLC_MOBS.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp

 

Using Mod Organizer 2 too

[fejeena]

Sort your mods, your load order is a mess.

 

last Lovers mods ( and last mods in your load order )

LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

Lovers Mods below the two may not work properly.

 

Sort manually and use the BOSS loadorder txt file with notepad++

Or run BOSS  and then sort the unsorted Mods manually.

 

And Lovers Mods see my example load order.

https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/

 

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Skeleton: you play Lovers/LAPF so you need the LAPF skeleton, no other skeleton will work.

If you use LAPF ( you must use the LAPF Skeleton)
data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 95KB

data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif  must be 58KB

 

Check if you have the archive invalidate entry in your Oblivion ini.

Without archive invalidate the game will always use the original game skeleton ( packed in the bsa )

 

You can also use the OBSE plugin SkyBSA

 

And it is possible that OBSE and archive invalidate don't work if you have your game in  C : / program files  ! !

 

See the Link i posted above . Scroll down to 2.  Problems during gameplay.  and  Penis/Breast stretching  ( BBB Mods and/or LAPF)

 

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But why do you rhave the breast stretching now after you have installed about 100 Mod?

Didn't you notice after installing Body Replacer and BBB animations?

Normally you test the game after installing 1 to 3 new Mods !   Then you know if an error occurs one of the last installed mods was to blame.

But if you want to mess up your game and install everything again you can ignore game tests after installing new Mods.

[gregathit]

You need to go back and read about how the FCOM load order needs to be setup and then manually fix your load order to match their recommended items.  

Then you will need to look at the Lover's with PK tech support pinned thread and match our load order on the plugins.

Finally, install the LAPF skeleton in your override folder (in addition to it being installed in the LAPF folder).  This will make sure that the LAPF skeleton has priority over all other skeletons.  Make sure the format for folder structure is followed.  The MO override folder is your "data" folder, so go from there to mimic the folder structure from there.

 

Again, I'm assuming you know how to use MO.  If you don't, then that is where you need to start:  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/20492-mod-organizer/

There are a ton of video's out there for support.  Mods that are not part of FCOM or Lovers should be up above those to groups of mods.  So ESM's, then other mods, then FCOM then lovers.

[Nidhugg]

3 hours ago, fejeena said:

Sort manually and use the BOSS loadorder txt file with notepad++

Or run BOSS  and then sort the unsorted Mods manually.

I used LOOT before, sorted with BOSS and moved unrecognized mods around, resulting in:

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Oblivion.esm
Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm
Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm
Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm
Better Cities Resources.esm
Lovers with PK.esm
LoversCreature.esm
CM Partners.esm
Knights - Revelation.esm
Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp
UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp
Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
DLCShiveringIsles.esp
Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp
MOBS SI.esp
MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp
Better Cities .esp
Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp
WindowLightingSystem.esp
More Effective Enchantments.esp
kuerteeCleanUp.esp
DLCHorseArmor.esp
DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCOrrery.esp
DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCVileLair.esp
DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCSpellTomes.esp
DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp
EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp
MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp
Growlfs Animated Hair.esp
DLCThievesDen.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp
Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp
Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp
Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp
Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp
Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp
Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp
Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp
Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp
More Effective Enchantments Francescos.esp
Ultimate Leveling.esp
CurseOfHircine.esp
CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp
Fransfemale.esp
Kvatch Rebuilt.esp
Servant of the Dawn.esp
Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp
DLCFrostcrag.esp
DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights.esp
Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp
Knights - Revelation.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp
More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp
DLC_MOBS.esp
Unique Landscapes.esp
LINK.esp
Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp
EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp
VanillaRealArmorReplacer.esp
Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp
RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
FuroGeneratorTrap.esp
LoversChorus.esp
LoversSetScale.esp
LoversProstitute.esp
LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
LoversRaperS.esp
LoversSituations.esp
LoversBed.esp
LoversHorseRider2.esp
LoversPayBandit.esp
Lovers with PK.esp
LoversBitch.esp
LoversCreature.esp
LoversJoystick.esp
LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
LoversBackup2.esp
LoversSpermSplashEx.esp
LoversRapeSlave.esp
LoversMB2.esp
LoversLight.esp
LoversSlaveTrader.esp
LSTBravilUnderground.esp
LoversMagic - Born To It.esp
xlds.esp
LoversPrimaBooks1.esp
LoversPrimaBooks2.esp
LoversTentacleFuta.esp
LVSSP_Creatures.esp
xldsFuro.esp
LSTaddonInH.esp
Stav_ImperialDragon.esp
DMRA BBB Crusader Armor - Revelation.esp
DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Armors.esp
BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp
SetBody.esp
MidasSpells.esp
No psychic guards v1.2.esp
Enhanced Grabbing.esp
Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp
Unequip Broken Armor.esp
Mass Decay.esp
CM Partners.esp
CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
CM Partners NPC.esp
CM Partners More NPCs.esp
CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
CM Spiderling Vae Victis.esp
EVE_KhajiitFix.esp
GBRsRAMpurge.esp
Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp
OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
Better Cities Full.esp
Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp
Better Imperial City.esp
xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp
Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp
Better Cities - MOBS.esp
ULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp
Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp
Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp
UOPversionVoicesForFemaleDremora.esp
Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp

 

3 hours ago, fejeena said:

 

Skeleton: you play Lovers/LAPF so you need the LAPF skeleton, no other skeleton will work.

If you use LAPF ( you must use the LAPF Skeleton)
data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 95KB

data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif  must be 58KB

 

Check if you have the archive invalidate entry in your Oblivion ini.

Without archive invalidate the game will always use the original game skeleton ( packed in the bsa )

 

You can also use the OBSE plugin SkyBSA

I am now using the LAPF skeleton. I don't know what the invalidate setting in the ini looks like but I installed SkyBSA which seems to have done the trick as I now crash on load/new game.

 

3 hours ago, fejeena said:

 

But why do you rhave the breast stretching now after you have installed about 100 Mod?

Didn't you notice after installing Body Replacer and BBB animations?

Normally you test the game after installing 1 to 3 new Mods !   Then you know if an error occurs one of the last installed mods was to blame.

But if you want to mess up your game and install everything again you can ignore game tests after installing new Mods.

I am stupid, please forgive me

 

2 hours ago, gregathit said:

You need to go back and read about how the FCOM load order needs to be setup and then manually fix your load order to match their recommended items.  

I'm only using Francesco's though

[gregathit]

Running multiple overhauls is going to require some careful load order manipulation as well as patches.  A quick google search shows this patch and load order:  https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47473

 

I'd also recommend that you check to see if you are supposed to have both of these enabled or just one:

Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp
Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp

 

Get rid of all CM partners mods.  CM partners stuff is script heavy and buggy.  You have way too many mods to run CM stuff.

If you need a partners mod, get a low impact one like this:  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/1569-mad-companionship-spells-mcs-extension-humantouchnpc/

If you need NPC's to use as companions you can use these:  https://www.loverslab.com/topic/1565-from2ch-lives/

 

[fejeena]

NEVER LOOT with Oblivion !

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I posted  my Link.  There you could read everything about archive invalidate.

How to check the entry and what the entry should look like.

In both sections  "archive invalidate: or SkyBSA "  and   "Penis/Breast stretching  ( BBB Mods and/or LAPF) "   I explain how to do it and how it should look..

 

But with SkyBSA you don't need it.

 

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Yes CM partner is bad.

 

You can use the companions esp  and delete all CM stuff in the esp and the CM esm  masterfile . Then you have only the NPC and can use MCS to recruit the NPC.

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The companion Mod.

I use only Mad Companionship Spells and MCS Extension .  Not HumanTouchNPC . Idon't need any option from that addon. And some people had problems with Lovers.

Mad Companionship Spells and MCS Extension works with lovers.

The latest version of MCS Extension is in post 286 !

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I don't use Francesco's , can't help.

But running multiple overhauls is always bad.... or a lot of work until everything works.

 

 

[Nidhugg]

Hmm, I think I'll just reinstall everything properly and far more carefully. Maybe skip the overhauls. I'll make sure to follow Fejeena's guide. I'll tell you if it works, just gonna sleep first.

[Nidhugg]

Alright, BBB is working properly now. I just need to install all other mods but the reason for this thread is fixed at least. Thanks for the great help!

[fejeena]

Be careful that you don't overwrite the  BBB skeleton !

 You play Lovers , you need the LAPF skeleton.

 

Many  BBB armor-clothes Mods have skeletons ! Old BBB skeletons that don't work with LAPF !

Also some animations Mods can have skeletons.

 

Never allow a Mod during the installation to overwrite your skeletons !

 

Or unpack Mods in a empty folder.  Check if there is a  \meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif    .  And a meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif  .

If yes, delete the  skeletons, then install the Mod.

[Nidhugg]

Oh that won't be a problem, I'm using Mod Organizer so I can make sure I use the LAPF skeleton

[gregathit]

If all else fails, you can put the LAPF skeleton in the override folder.  Only do that if you have a problem with BBB or the LAPF.

That is the nice thing about MO.  :}