Nidhugg Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 I've got the BBB texture stretch thingy but I can't find the cause of it, I've got the Universal Skeleton (Controllable). I've tried using the skeleton that came with LAPF. I've tried disabling NoMaans BBB animations. Stretching occurs on both clothing and body (and my body replacer doesn't seem to register, but SetBody works). Got any ideas? OBSE plugins are: Spoiler MenuQue Blockhead Elys_USV EngineBugFixes FastExit2 Pluggy sr_Oblivion Stutter Removal Trifle Load order Spoiler Oblivion.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm Better Cities Resources.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm CM Partners.esm Knights - Revelation.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp Better Cities .esp Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp MOBS SI.esp MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp More Effective Enchantments.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp More Effective Enchantments Francescos.esp Knights - Revelation.esp LoversSituations.esp Servant of the Dawn.esp CurseOfHircine.esp LoversBitch.esp Growlfs Animated Hair.esp Fransfemale.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversHorseRider2.esp CM Partners.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp MidasSpells.esp Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp RMDailyIncomeV2.esp FuroGeneratorTrap.esp LoversChorus.esp LoversSetScale.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversBed.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversCreature.esp SetBody.esp LoversJoystick.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversLight.esp BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp Unequip Broken Armor.esp Mass Decay.esp LoversMagic - Born To It.esp xlds.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp Better Cities - MOBS.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp UOPversionVoicesForFemaleDremora.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp LINK.esp Ultimate Leveling.esp CM Spiderling Vae Victis.esp DMRA BBB Crusader Armor - Revelation.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Armors.esp LoversPrimaBooks1.esp LoversPrimaBooks2.esp LoversTentacleFuta.esp LSTaddonInH.esp LVSSP_Creatures.esp xldsFuro.esp GBRsRAMpurge.esp OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp EVE_KhajiitFix.esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp Stav_ImperialDragon.esp VanillaRealArmorReplacer.esp Unique Landscapes.esp Better Cities Full.esp xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp ULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp Better Imperial City.esp Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp DLC_MOBS.esp kuerteeCleanUp.esp Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp Using Mod Organizer 2 too
fejeena Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 Sort your mods, your load order is a mess. last Lovers mods ( and last mods in your load order ) LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp Lovers Mods below the two may not work properly. Sort manually and use the BOSS loadorder txt file with notepad++ Or run BOSS and then sort the unsorted Mods manually. And Lovers Mods see my example load order. https://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbb-load-order-sorting-espesm-cleaning-cs-cse-body-stretching/ ---------------- Skeleton: you play Lovers/LAPF so you need the LAPF skeleton, no other skeleton will work. If you use LAPF ( you must use the LAPF Skeleton) data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 95KB data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif must be 58KB Check if you have the archive invalidate entry in your Oblivion ini. Without archive invalidate the game will always use the original game skeleton ( packed in the bsa ) You can also use the OBSE plugin SkyBSA And it is possible that OBSE and archive invalidate don't work if you have your game in C : / program files ! ! See the Link i posted above . Scroll down to 2. Problems during gameplay. and Penis/Breast stretching ( BBB Mods and/or LAPF) ------------------------ But why do you rhave the breast stretching now after you have installed about 100 Mod? Didn't you notice after installing Body Replacer and BBB animations? Normally you test the game after installing 1 to 3 new Mods ! Then you know if an error occurs one of the last installed mods was to blame. But if you want to mess up your game and install everything again you can ignore game tests after installing new Mods.
gregathit Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 You need to go back and read about how the FCOM load order needs to be setup and then manually fix your load order to match their recommended items. Then you will need to look at the Lover's with PK tech support pinned thread and match our load order on the plugins. Finally, install the LAPF skeleton in your override folder (in addition to it being installed in the LAPF folder). This will make sure that the LAPF skeleton has priority over all other skeletons. Make sure the format for folder structure is followed. The MO override folder is your "data" folder, so go from there to mimic the folder structure from there. Again, I'm assuming you know how to use MO. If you don't, then that is where you need to start: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/20492-mod-organizer/ There are a ton of video's out there for support. Mods that are not part of FCOM or Lovers should be up above those to groups of mods. So ESM's, then other mods, then FCOM then lovers.
Nidhugg Posted July 26, 2020 Author Posted July 26, 2020 3 hours ago, fejeena said: Sort manually and use the BOSS loadorder txt file with notepad++ Or run BOSS and then sort the unsorted Mods manually. I used LOOT before, sorted with BOSS and moved unrecognized mods around, resulting in: Spoiler Oblivion.esm Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm Francesco's Optional New Creatures Add-On.esm Better Cities Resources.esm Lovers with PK.esm LoversCreature.esm CM Partners.esm Knights - Revelation.esm Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp UOP Vampire Aging & Face Fix.esp Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp DLCShiveringIsles.esp Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp MOBS SI.esp MOBS SI Optional Combat Settings.esp Better Cities .esp Francesco's Creatures and Items Resources.esp WindowLightingSystem.esp More Effective Enchantments.esp kuerteeCleanUp.esp DLCHorseArmor.esp DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCOrrery.esp DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCVileLair.esp DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCMehrunesRazor.esp DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCSpellTomes.esp DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp EVE_StockEquipmentReplacer.esp MaleBodyReplacerV5.esp Growlfs Animated Hair.esp DLCThievesDen.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp Francesco's More Wilderness Life.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Loot.esp Francesco's Optional Dungeon Chest Locks.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp Francesco's Optional House Chest Loot.esp Francesco's Optional New Adventurers.esp Francesco's Optional Vendor Tweaks.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Quests.esp Francesco's Optional Leveled Arena.esp More Effective Enchantments Francescos.esp Ultimate Leveling.esp CurseOfHircine.esp CoH Werewolves Mixed.esp Fransfemale.esp Kvatch Rebuilt.esp Servant of the Dawn.esp Apachii_Goddess_Store.esp DLCBattlehornCastle.esp DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp DLCFrostcrag.esp DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights.esp Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp Knights - Revelation.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp EVE_KnightsoftheNine.esp More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp DLC_MOBS.esp Unique Landscapes.esp LINK.esp Enemy Weapons dont drop.esp EVE_ShiveringIslesEasterEggs.esp VanillaRealArmorReplacer.esp Kyoma's Journal Mod.esp RMDailyIncomeV2.esp FuroGeneratorTrap.esp LoversChorus.esp LoversSetScale.esp LoversProstitute.esp LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp LoversRaperS.esp LoversSituations.esp LoversBed.esp LoversHorseRider2.esp LoversPayBandit.esp Lovers with PK.esp LoversBitch.esp LoversCreature.esp LoversJoystick.esp LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp LoversBackup2.esp LoversSpermSplashEx.esp LoversRapeSlave.esp LoversMB2.esp LoversLight.esp LoversSlaveTrader.esp LSTBravilUnderground.esp LoversMagic - Born To It.esp xlds.esp LoversPrimaBooks1.esp LoversPrimaBooks2.esp LoversTentacleFuta.esp LVSSP_Creatures.esp xldsFuro.esp LSTaddonInH.esp Stav_ImperialDragon.esp DMRA BBB Crusader Armor - Revelation.esp DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Armors.esp BudongsNarcolepsySpell.esp SetBody.esp MidasSpells.esp No psychic guards v1.2.esp Enhanced Grabbing.esp Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp Unequip Broken Armor.esp Mass Decay.esp CM Partners.esp CM Partners Special NPCs.esp CM Partners NPC.esp CM Partners More NPCs.esp CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp CM Spiderling Vae Victis.esp EVE_KhajiitFix.esp GBRsRAMpurge.esp Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp OCO_KvatchRebuilt_Patch.esp OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp Better Cities Full.esp Better Cities - IC Imperial Isle.esp Better Imperial City.esp xulChorrolHinterland-BC6.esp Better Cities Chorrol - Knights of the Nine.esp Better Cities - MOBS.esp ULM BetterCities-UniqueLandscapes merged patch.esp Better Imperial City FPS Patch.esp Better Cities - Leyawiin Flooded.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp UOPversionVoicesForFemaleDremora.esp Maskar's Oblivion Overhaul.esp LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp 3 hours ago, fejeena said: Skeleton: you play Lovers/LAPF so you need the LAPF skeleton, no other skeleton will work. If you use LAPF ( you must use the LAPF Skeleton) data\meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif must be 95KB data\meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif must be 58KB Check if you have the archive invalidate entry in your Oblivion ini. Without archive invalidate the game will always use the original game skeleton ( packed in the bsa ) You can also use the OBSE plugin SkyBSA I am now using the LAPF skeleton. I don't know what the invalidate setting in the ini looks like but I installed SkyBSA which seems to have done the trick as I now crash on load/new game. 3 hours ago, fejeena said: But why do you rhave the breast stretching now after you have installed about 100 Mod? Didn't you notice after installing Body Replacer and BBB animations? Normally you test the game after installing 1 to 3 new Mods ! Then you know if an error occurs one of the last installed mods was to blame. But if you want to mess up your game and install everything again you can ignore game tests after installing new Mods. I am stupid, please forgive me 2 hours ago, gregathit said: You need to go back and read about how the FCOM load order needs to be setup and then manually fix your load order to match their recommended items. I'm only using Francesco's though
gregathit Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 Running multiple overhauls is going to require some careful load order manipulation as well as patches. A quick google search shows this patch and load order: https://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/47473 I'd also recommend that you check to see if you are supposed to have both of these enabled or just one: Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer.esp Duke Patricks - BASIC Script Effect Silencer NIF REMOVED.esp Get rid of all CM partners mods. CM partners stuff is script heavy and buggy. You have way too many mods to run CM stuff. If you need a partners mod, get a low impact one like this: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/1569-mad-companionship-spells-mcs-extension-humantouchnpc/ If you need NPC's to use as companions you can use these: https://www.loverslab.com/topic/1565-from2ch-lives/
fejeena Posted July 26, 2020 Posted July 26, 2020 NEVER LOOT with Oblivion ! ----------------- I posted my Link. There you could read everything about archive invalidate. How to check the entry and what the entry should look like. In both sections "archive invalidate: or SkyBSA " and "Penis/Breast stretching ( BBB Mods and/or LAPF) " I explain how to do it and how it should look.. But with SkyBSA you don't need it. ---------- Yes CM partner is bad. You can use the companions esp and delete all CM stuff in the esp and the CM esm masterfile . Then you have only the NPC and can use MCS to recruit the NPC. --------------------------------------------- The companion Mod. I use only Mad Companionship Spells and MCS Extension . Not HumanTouchNPC . Idon't need any option from that addon. And some people had problems with Lovers. Mad Companionship Spells and MCS Extension works with lovers. The latest version of MCS Extension is in post 286 ! ----------------- I don't use Francesco's , can't help. But running multiple overhauls is always bad.... or a lot of work until everything works.
Nidhugg Posted July 26, 2020 Author Posted July 26, 2020 Hmm, I think I'll just reinstall everything properly and far more carefully. Maybe skip the overhauls. I'll make sure to follow Fejeena's guide. I'll tell you if it works, just gonna sleep first.
Nidhugg Posted July 27, 2020 Author Posted July 27, 2020 Alright, BBB is working properly now. I just need to install all other mods but the reason for this thread is fixed at least. Thanks for the great help!
fejeena Posted July 28, 2020 Posted July 28, 2020 Be careful that you don't overwrite the BBB skeleton ! You play Lovers , you need the LAPF skeleton. Many BBB armor-clothes Mods have skeletons ! Old BBB skeletons that don't work with LAPF ! Also some animations Mods can have skeletons. Never allow a Mod during the installation to overwrite your skeletons ! Or unpack Mods in a empty folder. Check if there is a \meshes\characters\_male\ skeleton.nif and skeletonbeast.nif . And a meshes\characters\_1stPerson\skeleton.nif . If yes, delete the skeletons, then install the Mod.
Nidhugg Posted July 30, 2020 Author Posted July 30, 2020 Oh that won't be a problem, I'm using Mod Organizer so I can make sure I use the LAPF skeleton
gregathit Posted July 30, 2020 Posted July 30, 2020 If all else fails, you can put the LAPF skeleton in the override folder. Only do that if you have a problem with BBB or the LAPF. That is the nice thing about MO. :}
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