BodyTalk v3 male genitals problem

[Perelik]

I've installed BodyTalk v3 with all req. 
zaz skeleton physic files and preset OCBPC and TMT OCBPC preset... etc.
 

Also installed One Patch to rule them all + patch for animations (dont know if they at all mess with meshes)
And have this problem 

 

 

And here is my load order (had to reinstall lot of mods since my AAF didnt worked either but fixed it)

Spoiler

(0 -> 0)    Fallout4.esm
    (1 -> 1)    DLCRobot.esm
    (2 -> 2)    DLCworkshop01.esm
    (3 -> 3)    DLCCoast.esm
    (4 -> 4)    DLCworkshop02.esm
    (5 -> 5)    DLCworkshop03.esm
    (6 -> 6)    DLCNukaWorld.esm
    (7 -> 7)    SpringCleaning.esm
    (8 -> ?  ArmorKeywords.esm
    (9 -> 9)    Loads.esm
    (10 -> 10)    NewCalibers.esp
    (11 -> 11)    SimSettlements.esm
    (12 -> 12)    Homemaker.esm
    (1040384 -> 1040384)    IceStormsHeavySandals.esl
    (13 -> 13)    TrueStormsFO4.esm
    (1040385 -> 1040385)    Bememoth Separated Cart.esl
    (14 -> 14)    AAF.esm
    (1040386 -> 1040386)    AAFThemes.esl
    (15 -> 15)    CBBE.esp
    (1040387 -> 1040387)    FO4HHS_AAF.esp
    (16 -> 16)    [SGO]Sexy Party Outfit.esp
    (17 -> 17)    Homemaker - Streetlights Use Passive Power.esp
    (18 -> 18)    Homemaker - Unlocked Institute Objects.esp
    (19 -> 19)    LooksMenu.esp
    (20 -> 20)    More Power Armour Mods.esp
    (21 -> 21)    More Power Armour Mods - Automatron.esp
    (22 -> 22)    LongerPowerLines3x.esp
    (23 -> 23)    LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
    (24 -> 24)    SC_ExpandedScrapList.esp
    (25 -> 25)    HidePipboy.esp
    (26 -> 26)    ESPExplorerFO4.esp
    (27 -> 27)    DarkerNightsDetection.esp
    (28 -> 28)    AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
    (29 -> 29)    Loads of Ammo - Leveled Lists.esp
    (30 -> 30)    LooksMirror.esp
    (31 -> 31)    KSHairdos.esp
    (32 -> 32)    Armorsmith Extended.esp
    (33 -> 33)    Armorsmith-LegendaryClothes-Compat.esp
    (34 -> 34)    W.A.T.Minutemen.esp
    (35 -> 35)    JackgasNightclubOfTheCommonwealth.esp
    (36 -> 36)    CheatTerminal.esp
    (37 -> 37)    2pacSkimpy.esp
    (38 -> 38)    VtawWardrobe4.esp
    (39 -> 39)    VtawWardrobe1.esp
    (40 -> 40)    VtawUtilityPack1.esp
    (41 -> 41)    VtawWardrobe5.esp
    (42 -> 42)    KSHairdos_oel.esp
    (43 -> 43)    LMBTOverlays.esp
    (44 -> 44)    tao_catsuit.esp
    (45 -> 45)    tao_catsuit_awkcr.esp
    (46 -> 46)    BikerGirlOutfitsConversion.esp
    (47 -> 47)    DlxClothesPack.esp
    (48 -> 48)    BattleRifle.esp
    (49 -> 49)    DD_bleu_Ump_Extreme_Lore_friendly_edition.esp
    (50 -> 50)    Extended weapon mods.esp
    (51 -> 51)    mjp_PTRS41ATR.esp
    (52 -> 52)    MWM4.esp
    (53 -> 53)    3dscopes-replacer.esp
    (54 -> 54)    3dscopes-replacer-farharbor.esp
    (55 -> 55)    3dscopes-replacer-nukaworld.esp
    (56 -> 56)    M14.esp
    (57 -> 57)    M2216.esp
    (58 -> 58)    D.E.C.A.Y.esp
    (59 -> 59)    sniperwave.esp
    (60 -> 60)    ResidentEvilClaie3.esp
    (61 -> 61)    Xavier's Bethesda outfit.esp
    (62 -> 62)    HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
    (63 -> 63)    RutahTattooPack_FO4.esp
    (1040388 -> 1040388)    AlysrazaOverlays.esp
    (64 -> 64)    DOOMMerged.esp
    (65 -> 65)    F4NVServiceRifleRedux.esp
    (66 -> 66)    mk14.esp
    (67 -> 67)    RU556.esp
    (68 -> 68)    FCOM.esp
    (69 -> 69)    Glock19x.esp
    (70 -> 70)    Nora's Secret.esp
    (71 -> 71)    TrueStormsFO4-FarHarbor.esp
    (72 -> 72)    TrueStormsFO4-NukaWorld-FH-Compat.esp
    (73 -> 73)    DarkerNights.esp
    (74 -> 74)    Crafting Mastery - Patch Sim Settlements.esp
    (75 -> 75)    Pip-Boy Flashlight.esp
    (76 -> 76)    walkers.esp
    (77 -> 77)    EFF.esp
    (78 -> 78)    StartMeUp.esp
    (79 -> 79)    Deathclaw_nude.esp
    (80 -> 80)    BodyTalk3-LooksMenu.esp
    (81 -> 81)    Mutated Lust.esp
    (82 -> 82)    RealHandcuffs.esp
    (1040389 -> 1040389)    RealHandcuffs_AWKCR_Compatibility.esp
    (83 -> 83)    FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
    (84 -> 84)    Farelle_Animations.esp
    (85 -> 85)    AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
    (86 -> 86)    AAF_CreaturePack02DLC.esp
    (87 -> 87)    SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
    (88 -> 88)    Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
    (89 -> 89)    rxl_bp70_animations.esp
    (90 -> 90)    AAF_Violate.esp
    (1040390 -> 1040390)    AAF_Violate_DLC_Patch.esp
    (1040391 -> 1040391)    AAF_Violate_FCOM_Patch.esp
    (1040392 -> 1040392)    AAF_Violate_Feral_Animations.esp
    (91 -> 91)    AAF_SEU.esp

 

[TheBottomhoodofSteel]

Join the "I didn't install the Extended skeleton" club. 

Install the Skeleton, make sure it's loaded dead last and nothing overrides or modifies it.

[Lorphe]

My character also have the penis issue... It's not the same bug as above though.

I have the requirement listed here, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/34208?tab=posts
 

I doubt there is any instalation order to keep but here what I did :
Install Bodytalkv3

Install ZeX Skeleton
Install ZCPB
Install AAF One patch to rule them all

The male penis grow in size but keep looking down no matter what I do.
 

[TheLateGreat96]

 

 

this helped me with similar issues

[murf]

the most current guide for AAF, including load order (rules , skeletons etc) for MO2, Vortex and NMM is this guide.

 

[Proje]

Been having that issue too. Didnt bother fixing it because it is so lulzy ?

[mashup47]

On 7/17/2020 at 7:42 PM, Lirph said:

My character also have the penis issue... It's not the same bug as above though.

I have the requirement listed here, https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/34208?tab=posts
 

I doubt there is any instalation order to keep but here what I did :
Install Bodytalkv3

Install ZeX Skeleton
Install ZCPB
Install AAF One patch to rule them all

The male penis grow in size but keep looking down no matter what I do.

You need to remove " The One Patch To Rule Them All " this mod is NOT ment to be used with ANY Mod's on LoversLab.com Reason being it is the cut down version.

to get you animations working correctly please follow this guide : 

@Proje   If you have followed this guide and you still have a floppy/oversized dick then you have forgotten to build your Male body with the erection slider set to ZERO and ticked the morph box. hope this helps

[Proje]

Oh I got it fixed. One of my profiles had the necessary skeleton unchecked. 

[Elmerfudd01]

So I did Zex first then ZCPB and Body Talk 3 last just the Body Talk no other options in it made sure nothing over wrote the Zex and I did not install One Patch, I find it's more trouble than it's worth. Everything worked perfect as it should. I hope that helps anyone having problems.

[JUSSME]

having that issue.

Don't understand what is the problem. 

 

Bodytalk is not being overwritten.

Double checked the Physics Preset. I had one that Was MTM  something.

But I disabled it and switched to ZCPB for fusion girl and body talk. Zex fusion girl is not being overwritten

 

Not sure what is wrong.

 The UAP patch was causing it to CTD. I had disabled that

And just for measure i disabled Indarellos Effects patch. So no patches

Edited July 31, 2021 by JUSSME

[Indarello]

10 hours ago, JUSSME said:

having that issue.

Don't understand what is the problem. 

 

Bodytalk is not being overwritten.

Double checked the Physics Preset. I had one that Was MTM  something.

But I disabled it and switched to ZCPB for fusion girl and body talk. Zex fusion girl is not being overwritten

 

Not sure what is wrong.

 The UAP patch was causing it to CTD. I had disabled that

And just for measure i disabled Indarellos Effects patch. So no patches

 

either you forgot to build morphs or your aaf configs setuped to not apply erection

[JUSSME]

5 hours ago, Indarello said:

either you forgot to build morphs or your aaf configs setuped to not apply erection

I build the body talk body in bodyslide. Is that what you're referring to?

On bodyslide I built it in the Zero Preset. It has erection at 0 but its supposed to erect during scenes and the body is at Zero erection normally.

It was working before but I don't know what changed it. It was working before but the females were dry humping. I got that resolved. Then I tried to get the super mutant animations working. But while doing that I noticed regular M/F animations had the penis flacid

[JUSSME]

Ok I got it to work. Don't understand why. Its just Misaligned though

[JUSSME]

Ok I had renabled most of AAF mods before. 

including sex attributes.

The Penis became erected but the animations were misligned.

Redoing UAP patch Fixed the alignment Issue.
I tested this with Beggar Hardship mod

But I also went to check the other Animation Mods for NPC scaling Option. I haven't seen the other animations tested. I'm assuming begger mod only uses Leitos since that what it only lists for requirement I think.

The Modlist is basically the same Except I enabled the UAP patch. to get the Alignment right. The UAP patch wasn't necessary for erections.
Also to note I had a wrong version of looksmenu before. Its probably not the cause of the issue since I disabled it and it still didn't fix any of my issues.

But I downloaded the correct version of Looksmenu anyways from the guide.

for the UAP patch I believe I just put the default stuff it ask for with just tick for the mod organizer file support or something.

But it works now. Maybe this helps someone else. Maybe not. 

But its here for update.

Edited August 1, 2021 by JUSSME

[ultrasonique]

Nah take it easy, it prety much fucks up randomly for no reason. Been playing for about 3 months with no problems whatsoever, didnt installed no new mods as i have all i need and usualy use. Today i launched the game and all males have melted body. Females with straps are fine, just BT3 is all fucked up, didnt happened first time and i bet nor last time. Fixd it by reinstalling entire F4 and applying profile in NMM. Knee fix works, Race customizer too and aSexMod as well, I guess its more like list of suggestions

[Sgt. Marge]

5 hours ago, ultrasonique said:

Nah take it easy, it prety much fucks up randomly for no reason. Been playing for about 3 months with no problems whatsoever, didnt installed no new mods as i have all i need and usualy use. Today i launched the game and all males have melted body. Females with straps are fine, just BT3 is all fucked up, didnt happened first time and i bet nor last time. Fixd it by reinstalling entire F4 and applying profile in NMM. Knee fix works, Race customizer too and aSexMod as well, I guess its more like list of suggestions

 

 

There's usually a reason for things breaking but it may not be readily apparent.  I would gently nudge you towards trying Vortex or even Mod Organizer 2 instead of NMM, as it's easier to manage load order and conflict resolution.  Reinstalling the game is generally not necessary unless there's some fundamental file corruption with the base game or missing DLC.  I am glad you fixed your issue though, it can be quite maddening to suddenly be faced with an issue where everything was previously fine.  Certainly stick with NMM if you'd like, not saying it doesn't work, but something to consider.

 

Cheers

[ultrasonique]

13 hours ago, Marg597 said:

 

 

There's usually a reason for things breaking but it may not be readily apparent.  I would gently nudge you towards trying Vortex or even Mod Organizer 2 instead of NMM, as it's easier to manage load order and conflict resolution.  Reinstalling the game is generally not necessary unless there's some fundamental file corruption with the base game or missing DLC.  I am glad you fixed your issue though, it can be quite maddening to suddenly be faced with an issue where everything was previously fine.  Certainly stick with NMM if you'd like, not saying it doesn't work, but something to consider.

 

Cheers

Well, its more of a "creative engine" problem realy, we all know how bug-less it is now dont we?  
Surprisingly enough my BT3 works with skeleton 3.5, but for some reason doesnt with V5 which fact i find prety strange but w/e
The thing with me using NMM is that all profiles i have are from that manager and iam not realy into installing something else and again digging through entire interwebs what mods are in conflict with what, which ones are supposed to be installed prior to what, load orders and so on and so forth. I have tried to use Vortex with KOTOR but fuck if i know how that thing works, couldnt realy make much of that UI and yes iam using MO2 for games like Dragon Age Origins and some other oldies. If there is some easy peasy way to port my NMM load orders to Vortex or MO2, that would be great thing, but i havent found any.

 

Example first screen is with Zaz skeleton 3.5, second with V5.

Edited December 7, 2021 by ultrasonique

[Sgt. Marge]

4 hours ago, ultrasonique said:

Well, its more of a "creative engine" problem realy, we all know how bug-less it is now dont we?  
Surprisingly enough my BT3 works with skeleton 3.5, but for some reason doesnt with V5 which fact i find prety strange but w/e
The thing with me using NMM is that all profiles i have are from that manager and iam not realy into installing something else and again digging through entire interwebs what mods are in conflict with what, which ones are supposed to be installed prior to what, load orders and so on and so forth. I have tried to use Vortex with KOTOR but fuck if i know how that thing works, couldnt realy make much of that UI and yes iam using MO2 for games like Dragon Age Origins and some other oldies. If there is some easy peasy way to port my NMM load orders to Vortex or MO2, that would be great thing, but i havent found any.

 

Example first screen is with Zaz skeleton 3.5, second with V5.

 

The thing is, that the developer of Bodytalk 3 recommends Zex V5 so it's designed to work together correctly.  Do you maybe have some other skeleton overwriting it?  Something is going on with your install order, which I don't know how to fix in NMM.  My understanding is that with NMM, the order you install the mods is just how they are, and you can't move things around, which makes it very difficult to troubleshoot issues like this.  Unfortunately I'm fairly certain that the mod author doesn't support NMM either, so unless someone else with knowledge of NMM + BodyTalk + Zex sees the thread, I'm afraid I've reached the edge of what I can suggest...  But if you are fine with your work around, I guess there's no worries.

[ultrasonique]

18 minutes ago, Marg597 said:

 

The thing is, that the developer of Bodytalk 3 recommends Zex V5 so it's designed to work together correctly.  Do you maybe have some other skeleton overwriting it?  Something is going on with your install order, which I don't know how to fix in NMM.  My understanding is that with NMM, the order you install the mods is just how they are, and you can't move things around, which makes it very difficult to troubleshoot issues like this.  Unfortunately I'm fairly certain that the mod author doesn't support NMM either, so unless someone else with knowledge of NMM + BodyTalk + Zex sees the thread, I'm afraid I've reached the edge of what I can suggest...  But if you are fine with your work around, I guess there's no worries.

 

Nop nothing that overwrites any skeleton files but the knee fix, but it looks like that whether the fix is installed or not. I dont realy have any kamikaze - hard to navigate in - mod list, prety much just Savren textures for everything, AAF + animations and Fusion City series mods plus some armors here and there by DeseterX, no fancy stuff, but it is what it is. The animations are the newest recommended ones in the guide because i couldnt find any of those i used few years ago (like the sex in a cryo pod or on Powerarmor stand). But it works nevertheless, probably some witchraft.

[randomguy12324]

sorry to revive this but Im having the flacid error but the wierd part is that it used to work and that only the humans a ghouls are suffering from this

[babybladeface]

I'm having the same problem as the original poster BUT there's nothing overriding my skeleton. Would post a load order, but I can't figure out how to export in from mod organizer.

 

Nevermind, Zex just put out an update that solved the problem.

Edited July 13, 2024 by babybladeface

[rjrc]

i have been playing FO4 for years and installing or removing a lot of mods.

Everytime i had an issue with BT penis it was solved by :

 

- ZEX - re install the mod, even if nothing seems to overwrite it, Once i had missing or flacid penis and after hours i solved it by overwritting Zex

- In BT make sure that the file AAF_MorphSetData.xml is the one from BT3, not replaced by another mod (like UAP). I don't know why i can't use the Ulfberth's UAP file but when i do i have misaligned or non erect penis with some animations.

- build BT body in bodyslide with all penis sliders set to 0 and use Build Morphs option

 

UAP is very good but you need to read carefully the install instructions and use the right options and the right animation version : 

 

I'm using SAM, bodytalk for females, BT3, CBBE, UAP,Vio Strapon and nearly all AFF animations. Everything is working fine (touch wood!)

Edited August 18, 2024 by rjrc

[deff.]

9 hours ago, rjrc said:

i have been playing FO4 for years and installing or removing a lot of mods.

Everytime i had an issue with BT penis it was solved by :

 

 

- In BT make sure that the file AAF_MorphSetData.xml is the one from BT3, not replaced by another mod (like UAP). I don't know why i can't use the Ulfberth's UAP file but when i do i have misaligned or non erect penis with some animations.

 

 

How do you solve this conflict when AAF_MorphSetData.xml in BT3 is replaced from UAP?

[rjrc]

5 hours ago, deff_lv said:

 

How do you solve this conflict when AAF_MorphSetData.xml in BT3 is replaced from UAP?

 

You can use your mod manager to manage file conflicts (vortex or MO2), or you can take the file AAF_MorphSetData.xml fron the BT3 mod and copy it manually to \Fallout 4\Data\AAF

[deff.]

On 8/19/2024 at 2:58 PM, rjrc said:

 

You can use your mod manager to manage file conflicts (vortex or MO2), or you can take the file AAF_MorphSetData.xml fron the BT3 mod and copy it manually to \Fallout 4\Data\AAF

 

I wanted to clarify. UAP is overwriting BT 3 morph_set_data.  I need to copy AAF_MorphSetData.xml from the BT3 and paste it where? Because I don't have Fallout 4\Data\AAF. I have main FO4 folder under Steam and there is no AAF folder. AAF folder is in another directory where are MO2 creating mod folders after installing...