zerozaki Posted April 14, 2020 Posted April 14, 2020 I got CTD everytime when I opened perk chart after the AAF initialization. The funny thing is as the AAF initialization not finished, I open the perk chart as fast as I can after loading a save, It won't crash the game.And then I reopened the perk chart so the crashes had begun. I tyied disable AAF MOD one by one, trying to figure out which AAF mod causes CTD. But I find out there is only way to avoid crash that is disable all AAF mods. Seems they are conflicting with each other. And here is my load order. All the AAF mods has been bolded. Is there any one has the same situation? Or any clue of it? Thanks in Advanced! 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Indarello Posted April 14, 2020 Posted April 14, 2020 2 hours ago, zerozaki said: I got CTD everytime when I opened perk chart after the AAF initialization. The funny thing is as the AAF initialization not finished, I open the perk chart as fast as I can after loading a save, It won't crash the game.And then I reopened the perk chart so the crashes had begun. I tyied disable AAF MOD one by one, trying to figure out which AAF mod causes CTD. But I find out there is only way to avoid crash that is disable all AAF mods. Seems they are conflicting with each other. And here is my load order. All the AAF mods has been bolded. Is there any one has the same situation? Or any clue of it? Thanks in Advanced! 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mashup47 Posted April 14, 2020 Posted April 14, 2020 5 hours ago, zerozaki said: I got CTD everytime when I opened perk chart after the AAF initialization. The funny thing is as the AAF initialization not finished, I open the perk chart as fast as I can after loading a save, It won't crash the game.And then I reopened the perk chart so the crashes had begun. I tyied disable AAF MOD one by one, trying to figure out which AAF mod causes CTD. But I find out there is only way to avoid crash that is disable all AAF mods. Seems they are conflicting with each other. And here is my load order. All the AAF mods has been bolded. Is there any one has the same situation? Or any clue of it? Thanks in Advanced! Just on the off chance did you install AAF erection fix V1.2 if so uninstall it and check in game to see if that fixed the issue. If it dose then download this fix .
zerozaki Posted April 15, 2020 Author Posted April 15, 2020 12 hours ago, mashup47 said: Just on the off chance did you install AAF erection fix V1.2 if so uninstall it and check in game to see if that fixed the issue. If it dose then download this fix Thank you so much! This one and "Patch for animations" fix the crash perfectly!! Oh god, you're my savior!!
dagobaking Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 I'm not sure how that would fix a CTD issue? Sounds more like the DEF_UI issue.
mashup47 Posted April 15, 2020 Posted April 15, 2020 1 hour ago, dagobaking said: I'm not sure how that would fix a CTD issue? Sounds more like the DEF_UI issue. I had this issue a few time's were the game would CDT and found it to be this. Reading @zerozaki post reminded me of it. But I think it is repeatable with a basic setup and the one patch.
zerozaki Posted April 16, 2020 Author Posted April 16, 2020 21 hours ago, dagobaking said: I'm not sure how that would fix a CTD issue? Sounds more like the DEF_UI issue. I was also thought of it would be a DEF UI issue before I figure out it only crashes after AAF initialization. It should have crashed whenever I open the perk chart if it's a DEF UI issue. But still thks for your replying.
weeza11 Posted December 8, 2020 Posted December 8, 2020 On 4/15/2020 at 7:48 AM, zerozaki said: Thank you so much! This one and "Patch for animations" fix the crash perfectly!! Oh god, you're my savior!! can you please clarify what patch for animation you used?
hamletsdead Posted December 27, 2020 Posted December 27, 2020 The patch is called Patch for Animations (SquirtCum Effects, cum overlays, stages, fixes) 9.1 if anyone is wondering. It's on LL.
SrDanny Posted March 13, 2021 Posted March 13, 2021 This thread says "solved" but it still seems pretty vague. I myself find myself with this problem but I've found work arounds so to anyone else in the future who also get this in the google results or through searching somewhere else. I found that the combination of Sim Settlements, Magno Cum and Inventory management mods like DEF_UI and Ivan's item manager all stack essentially making your game overload when doing or viewing certain ammount of displays on your screen. I found that by disabling the icons in the pip boy (and for me only the pip boy icons, not necessarily disabling it from everywhere else like the menus when buying or managing a lot) plus, installing the alternative perk system mod which doesn't open the S.P.E.C.I.A.L. shart but instead a UI about it (idk, apparently the shark is heavier in resources, Don't know) Helped. But I still have to fear going to my settlements and opening inventories or buying in them because of the ammount of displays Sim Settlements 2 pulls in. I just recently messed up my load order by updating the game and seeing until hours later that the quest had dissapeared, was due to the "SS2" Plugin in Vortex had not been enabled. Apparently plugins where self disabling themselves. I just restarted it (luckily I wasn't very ahead in the quest. Had just started it) but I'll await to see if there's any more problems. In the meantime I'll try to disable all interfaces as possible from that mod alone (given that when it was disabled without my knowledge, all CTD's related to this issue where gone. But I can't just uninstall Sim Settlements. Got no idea how to clean rogue scripts from a save file. if anyone knows, please let me know. I hope this helps ?
Tmancom03 Posted August 27, 2021 Posted August 27, 2021 I just wanted to add to this and let people know a separate possible cause I found for this has to do with an incompatibility with Windows "Readyboost". Another step you can take if the above does not work for you (others reading this) is see if you have any drives set up with ready boost and remove them. When i did that it actually stopped this exact crashing problem as well.
CAMERON751 Posted November 30, 2021 Posted November 30, 2021 Im not sure if anyone is still having this issue but ive figured out another possible cause. If you have the plugin preloader it can cause this as well. Dont know if maybe i just installed it wrong or something but when i uninstalled it everything worked perfectly.
ulosus Posted January 2, 2022 Posted January 2, 2022 On 11/30/2021 at 11:08 AM, CAMERON751 said: Im not sure if anyone is still having this issue but ive figured out another possible cause. If you have the plugin preloader it can cause this as well. Dont know if maybe i just installed it wrong or something but when i uninstalled it everything worked perfectly. That's right, preload loads too much and then crashes.
Heppai Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 This happened to me and its still a problem. I installed the mod and the patch but I still somewhat crash when entering in the perk tree. I crash about 50% of the time now, whereas before it was 100%. .....If anyone has an idea how to overcome the rest of this 50% I would greatly appreciate your efforts.
jcbsoares Posted February 16, 2022 Posted February 16, 2022 I am having 100% of crashes when opening Perk Chart! LoL I am still investigating!!!!
Heppai Posted February 17, 2022 Posted February 17, 2022 11 hours ago, jcbsoares said: I am having 100% of crashes when opening Perk Chart! LoL I am still investigating!!!! I figured it out man. It has everything to do with your AAF install and how your mods are installed. Just follow the below link very carefully and youll figure it out. I had to delete a lot of things and sort it all. Took less than an hour and Im pretty slow at this stuff.
WDNMD 9817 Posted March 6, 2022 Posted March 6, 2022 The problem is solved for me! It might be the problem of the Buffout 4 installation. Remember to change the XML file as the guiding file told above! Hope this answer helps someone who has the same problem
thepit Posted March 24, 2022 Posted March 24, 2022 On 12/27/2020 at 3:58 PM, hamletsdead said: The patch is called Patch for Animations (SquirtCum Effects, cum overlays, stages, fixes) 9.1 if anyone is wondering. It's on LL. You sir, have given me the answer to 30 hours of mod troubleshooting hell.
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