Dark Mirror Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 Just asking for opinions on a concept. Playing with PSQ which is already a transformation mod. Also Slaverun which adds a quest to be a succubus more immersively than a simple MCM But then there are the vanilla quests that allow vampire lord/werewolf transformation Isn't it a bit reduntant/overpowered to be more than one kind of supernatural being? And it just feels kind of wrong, if you're a succubus, why would you also be a werewolf or a vampire lord? Slaverun adds a daughter of coldharbour questline after the succubus to be both things, but it shouldn't be a next step, it should be a choice. Alternatively, another idea would be to make hybrid transformations special for a succubus, like a "weresuccubus" being some kind of seductive beast instead of a regular werewolf, or a vampire lord not being ugly Any thoughts? How does people in this place play their succubi regarding supernatural creature quests?
Adviser69 Posted January 14, 2020 Posted January 14, 2020 Well, considering from a lore standpoint that succubi were creations of Molag Bal and thus are technically Daughters of Coldharbour, the Slaverun quest does make sense. Though I get where you are coming from. I think that since vampires are also descendant of Molag Bal, succubi should be allowed to become vampires with little to none of the debuffs that it comes with, as they are already denizens of Coldharbour. Blending with werewolf attributes however would be more of a challenge, as all zoolanthropic types are under the creative control of Hircine. Hircine and Molag Bal have never seen eye to eye, as Hircine believes in fair play, whereas Bal believes in total domination and subjugation above all. This is reflected in there creations. As such, one would think that the traits of a were-creature would clash with those of succubi, unless there was some Divine or Daedric tinkering involved.
Dark Mirror Posted January 14, 2020 Author Posted January 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Adviser69 said: succubi were creations of Molag Bal and thus are technically Daughters of Coldharbour, So ideally and lore-friendily, a vampire hybrid should be either higher ranking vampire lord, say, an "elite" class that also has succubi treats and possibly a non-ugly alter form, or not a vampire lord at all since succubi are a completely separate class Were-creatures however should perhaps be mutations? I dunno, I 've never seen a single model that is a "sexy werewolf" or something that made sense while being a succu. Saw a mod that allowed custom werewolf models though, but none that felt right for this.
Adviser69 Posted January 15, 2020 Posted January 15, 2020 2 hours ago, Dark Mirror said: So ideally and lore-friendily, a vampire hybrid should be either higher ranking vampire lord, say, an "elite" class that also has succubi treats and possibly a non-ugly alter form, or not a vampire lord at all since succubi are a completely separate class Were-creatures however should perhaps be mutations? I dunno, I 've never seen a single model that is a "sexy werewolf" or something that made sense while being a succu. Saw a mod that allowed custom werewolf models though, but none that felt right for this. Ideally, a succubus wouldn't change much when taking on the traits of a vampire, as she is already one of Molag Bal's elite creations. After all, succubi already feed on the life force of their victims through seductive and sexual means, so they are already a form of vampire. Adding vampirism, or at least the Sanguinare Vampiris strain that is prevalent in Skyrim, merely adds another more physical option to feed. So in essence, an succubus afflicted with vampirism is a more effective vampire lord then the actual vampire lords. As for the were-creature conundrum, I literally mean creatures. While werewolves and werebears are most common in Skyrim, there is also on record weresharks, weredeer, weregators, wererats, and even weretigers, though the last one is conjecture and could have been mistaken identity with a Khajiit. But for a majority of these, one would be hard pressed to make them look sexy, at least by man/mer standards.
Dark Mirror Posted January 16, 2020 Author Posted January 16, 2020 On 1/14/2020 at 11:49 PM, Adviser69 said: But for a majority of these, one would be hard pressed to make them look sexy, at least by man/mer standards. I'm not much of a furry, but I guess this is one thing such a thing would come in handy, but I was thinking more like a special kind of creature, some kind of demonic naked thing, I know a trick or two about modding to see if such a thing would be possible, but I dont think a proper model exists does it? Searched the entire mihail creatures collection and only thing that comes close is maybe one of these, like "succubus horror aspect". or perhaps something like this, emphasizing the goat legs demonic thing. For vampire lords there's already some human transformation replacers I guess.
Adviser69 Posted January 16, 2020 Posted January 16, 2020 What about this? There is a werewolf hybrid in this mod.
Inhuman-Immortal Posted March 4, 2023 Posted March 4, 2023 On 1/16/2020 at 10:43 AM, Adviser69 said: What about this? There is a werewolf hybrid in this mod. Sorry to just appear with this comment out of nowhere, but, I think they want for the character to look human that changes into a succubus at night, or vice versa the Succubus doesn't feed there fore reverting to a weaker state. does this make sense?
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