question Adult content and AAA game dev/publisher

[Darkpig]

6 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said:

Puritanical moral grandstanding. But everything that goes mainstream does have diminished quality. Music, movies, video games, you name it. I know "normie" is a really cringey word now but this applies here, the vanilla people will always have it against more niche stuff until it becomes bigger and gets incorporated into normie sphere of more blandness. I'm not saying be a hipster or some other shit, but going full on mainstream means making it a product of mass appeal, and mass appeal comes at the cost of dumbing down. It's simply a matter of demographics and according marketing.

Risks are rare in mainstream as is the case with all resource demanding endeavors but when society finally gets their act together and accepts sex as a part of life big companies are sure to notice and will go through the steps necessary to give an audience what they want. Of course we will always have that weirdo that spends a ton of money on niche stuff.

 

The best part of all this is that I would find something else to ramble on about like cannibalism being mainstream but that won't happen for several millennia or at least until we know how to turn ourselves into sentient gasses. or maybe not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21LjWFlGvo

 

Fun to think about no?

 

[Mr. Otaku]

53 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

Risks are rare in mainstream as is the case with all resource demanding endeavors but when society finally gets their act together and accepts sex as a part of life big companies are sure to notice and will go through the steps necessary to give an audience what they want. Of course we will always have that weirdo that spends a ton of money on niche stuff.

 

The best part of all this is that I would find something else to ramble on about like cannibalism being mainstream but that won't happen for several millennia or at least until we know how to turn ourselves into sentient gasses. or maybe not. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D21LjWFlGvo

 

Fun to think about no?

 

Risks are rare in mainstream because playing safe translates to more money. Why do you think big corporations always go for PG-13 or All Ages ratings? And i have a feeling that you're vastly overestimating humanity's adaptability in this regard. Puritanical beliefs come from tribe/herd mentality which happens to be a constant dominant force in "normal" people. It's how we have "sins", it's how we have "righteousness" and chauvinism, it's what created religion. I'm, not saying there's no flexibility and nothing changes over time at all but there's a limit to how far you can expect them to see. Also some cultures are not expected to make any real progress ever, because of the way they are.

 

It's good to be optimistic but you gotta have an anchor planted too. Also cannibalism, what the fuck? I've never understood that one. It's one of those fetishes that makes no sense to me and i've got some pretty extreme fetishes myself. That's a BIG OOF.

 

[Darkpig]

21 minutes ago, Mr.Otaku said:

Risks are rare in mainstream because playing safe translates to more money. Why do you think big corporations always go for PG-13 or All Ages ratings? And i have a feeling that you're vastly overestimating humanity's adaptability in this regard. Puritanical beliefs come from tribe/herd mentality which happens to be a constant dominant force in "normal" people. It's how we have "sins", it's how we have "righteousness" and chauvinism, it's what created religion. I'm, not saying there's no flexibility and nothing changes over time at all but there's a limit to how far you can expect them to see. Also some cultures are not expected to make any real progress ever, because of the way they are.

 

It's good to be optimistic but you gotta have an anchor planted too. Also cannibalism, what the fuck? I've never understood that one. It's one of those fetishes that makes no sense to me and i've got some pretty extreme fetishes myself. That's a BIG OOF.

Cannibalism was kind of a joke. I know how far humanity can go and if you are saying that humanity uses an anchor then they set it at the wrong port. I heard the nipple ban in certain states in the U.S. have recently been lifted for women. 90% of all cases of ew can be summed up to exaggerated stupidity or a matter of taste. Your distaste towards cannibalism is completely justified in that it is not your taste. It can be hard to get right when it comes to realistic instances of it. Human meat is known to cause diseases and make you look like a killer in the eyes of the public so no wonder why people find it so repulsive. However if that disease can be cured and human meat can be harvested non-lethally then cannibalism has a bit more of a spotlight.

Why am I justifying cannibalism? I must be tired. I'm hitting the sack. We'll have to resume this fun conversation tomorrow.

[Mr. Otaku]

3 hours ago, Darkpig said:

Cannibalism was kind of a joke.

I'm aware, i was just saying anyway since some people genuinely get turned on by that, and reports of cannibalism can be found throughout history as well.

 

3 hours ago, Darkpig said:

if you are saying that humanity uses an anchor then they set it at the wrong port.

That's not what i was saying, i was saying that getting carried away in your optimism is often not a good thing so anchoring yourself with your vision of humanity and future is preferable.

 

3 hours ago, Darkpig said:

I heard the nipple ban in certain states in the U.S. have recently been lifted for women. 90% of all cases of ew can be summed up to exaggerated stupidity or a matter of taste. Your distaste towards cannibalism is completely justified in that it is not your taste. It can be hard to get right when it comes to realistic instances of it. Human meat is known to cause diseases and make you look like a killer in the eyes of the public so no wonder why people find it so repulsive. However if that disease can be cured and human meat can be harvested non-lethally then cannibalism has a bit more of a spotlight.

Yes, but a lot of harmless things are also shunned by many. I didn't say nothing ever changes with time but you can't expect most people comprehend things the way you're doing. The average person doesn't think that way. The average person will change their opinion on a dime if it meant keeping their equally vapid/square friends and "social life". Nothing niche that goes mainstream has ever retained all of it's original qualities and quirks and most of the time it's always for the worse. You're overestimating the "normal people" and their cognitive dissonance. You give them liberty and over time they always start trading it for security until the fight starts again with a new cycle.

 

3 hours ago, Darkpig said:

Why am I justifying cannibalism? I must be tired. I'm hitting the sack. We'll have to resume this fun conversation tomorrow.

Lol fair enough.

[KoolHndLuke]

Yeah, not gonna happen. But, what would be cool is if many more game devs opened their games to modding! Then the community could add as much panda porn as it wants. 

[Wolfstorm321]

The market is not as big as you believe. Its a niche, and AAA studios wont aim for niches.

 

Also, children are more vulnerable to loot boxes, and with the censorship, these studios would lose the opportunity for making more money.

[Darkpig]

12 hours ago, Mr.Otaku said:

That's not what i was saying, i was saying that getting carried away in your optimism is often not a good thing so anchoring yourself with your vision of humanity and future is preferable.

 

Yes, but a lot of harmless things are also shunned by many. I didn't say nothing ever changes with time but you can't expect most people comprehend things the way you're doing. The average person doesn't think that way. The average person will change their opinion on a dime if it meant keeping their equally vapid/square friends and "social life". Nothing niche that goes mainstream has ever retained all of it's original qualities and quirks and most of the time it's always for the worse. You're overestimating the "normal people" and their cognitive dissonance. You give them liberty and over time they always start trading it for security until the fight starts again with a new cycle.

I never really considered myself optimistic. Everybody is gonna die! Is that better? Probably not. nobody likes edge lords. That is why I use a hammer bitch!

 

*cough cough* what was I saying? Ah yes the normies. "Normal" people will just have to get over it because, "Those trading security for liberty are total shitbags."- Benjamin Franklin

Actually I made a few tweaks to that quote but it gets the message across. "Normal" people that trade one for the other deserve a spanking like the shits they are. Yes I will admit that security is a form of liberty. Still if humanity actually acts like adults for once then this wouldn't be a problem. Take vore for example. It is not only unrealistic but also completely unethical. Well neither does superhero movies that are popular these days. One example is Batman's Dark Knight who is responsible for destruction of property, unlawful use of physical violence, and invasion of privacy. Here is a link to a lawyer picking it apart. If people think this is okay but thinks a fictional erotic where you eat your own lover is inappropriate then they are the strange ones.

 

MAKE L❤️VE NOT VIOLENCE.

 

But who am I kidding I'd rather beat up mentally ill people cause I'm Batman.

[Mr. Otaku]

2 hours ago, Darkpig said:

I never really considered myself optimistic. Everybody is gonna die! Is that better? Probably not. nobody likes edge lords. That is why I use a hammer bitch!

 

*cough cough* what was I saying? Ah yes the normies. "Normal" people will just have to get over it because, "Those trading security for liberty are total shitbags."- Benjamin Franklin

Actually I made a few tweaks to that quote but it gets the message across. "Normal" people that trade one for the other deserve a spanking like the shits they are. Yes I will admit that security is a form of liberty. Still if humanity actually acts like adults for once then this wouldn't be a problem. Take vore for example. It is not only unrealistic but also completely unethical. Well neither does superhero movies that are popular these days. One example is Batman's Dark Knight who is responsible for destruction of property, unlawful use of physical violence, and invasion of privacy. Here is a link to a lawyer picking it apart. If people think this is okay but thinks a fictional erotic where you eat your own lover is inappropriate then they are the strange ones.

 

MAKE L❤️VE NOT VIOLENCE.

 

But who am I kidding I'd rather beat up mentally ill people cause I'm Batman.

Lmfao i guess. There's that balance there between optimism and pessimism, realism, that's the sweet spot. An anchor just fastens you to the spot.

 

The constant problem is that normal people don't always get over it. Oermehgard lemme link all my devices and then to apps all day so i can stay cunnectaid!! < There are tons of people that think that way, more than you'd think. Top it off with absolutely incompetent political structures basically asking to get taken over by authoritarian off shoring shitheads and you have a steady death of liberty and increased glorified monitoring in the form of security. Like shit that looks like chocolate. Even the tree of liberty gets tired of this bullshit, why must it always bathe in blood of the people that didn't want anything to do with soy lattes huh? Fuck this shit.

 

Speaking of fucking shit, yeah, Batman is kind of a moron if you think about it. Even all that you said aside, the fact that he leaves all the dangerous and very cunning criminals alive and only just beats them up is retarded. Like, the fuck do you think these people are? You think beating up sex trafficking drugheads in a bat costume and taser guns is gonna stop them on their evil ways? They know the shit they're doing is bad, they do it anyway. They'll keep doing this shit over and over again cause they don't give a shit. In real life Wayne would've been doxxed after the first 4 stunt nights. Ah yes, nothing says terrifying vigilante like a dude in a bat spandex costume with no kills under the belt. Perfect.

 

Thug A after getting a Batwhoopin: Dude i feel like shit bruv that batman got me and my bois good.

Thug B after getting a Batwhoopin: Woaaah dude for real? He got me and my bois too, look at my black eyes man damn.

Thug A: Woaaaah we've got matching black eyes broo. I've got a broken arm too.

Thug B: Lelelelelelel same. So you got any intel on this bastard or what?

 

And all of a sudden, Wayne manor ransacked by mafia coalition and Wayne kidnapped in his sleep while Alfred is taking a piss in his sleep cause he's too old for sleepy gas. Perfect hero. Plot armor thicker than a neutron star.

[Darkpig]

1 hour ago, Mr.Otaku said:

The constant problem is that normal people don't always get over it. Oermehgard lemme link all my devices and then to apps all day so i can stay cunnectaid!! < There are tons of people that think that way, more than you'd think. Top it off with absolutely incompetent political structures basically asking to get taken over by authoritarian off shoring shitheads and you have a steady death of liberty and increased glorified monitoring in the form of security. Like shit that looks like chocolate. Even the tree of liberty gets tired of this bullshit, why must it always bathe in blood of the people that didn't want anything to do with soy lattes huh? Fuck this shit.

That is why we gotta keep fighting if we want to keep the whatchamacallem SJW idiots from taking over and believe me there are a ton of them out there and they reproduce too. I can't say much more than that without riling up a certain lemming.

[Mr. Otaku]

27 minutes ago, Darkpig said:

That is why we gotta keep fighting if we want to keep the whatchamacallem SJW idiots from taking over and believe me there are a ton of them out there and they reproduce too. I can't say much more than that without riling up a certain lemming.

Time has all the answers, i think the trick is just to reach it before the crazy ones do.

[nb8]

The AAA class porn game is impossible, because the entire elite of power in the United States belongs to the Moron or Puritan sects, according to which the worst crime is sex. Look at Skyrim for example. There is chopping off of limbs and heads, there is cannibalism, but there is no sex, because according to the faith of the Americans this crime is worse than dismemberment and cannibalism.

[wokking56]

On 10/9/2019 at 4:13 PM, Ethereal Fox said:

I'm having a hard time believing that the market is not that big.  Sex sells and it sells a lot, much of the internet bandwidth is porn.

While it is true that a sizable chuck of bandwidth is devoted to porn it is actually only about 30% of all actual usage. Of that 30% probably only a bit over half are actually paying for it so somewhere in the 18 to 20% mark. So while sex does indeed sell it is not as prolific as you seem to think. Also as was already stated a AAA game is likened to a blockbuster movie which have budgets in the hundreds of millions to the occasional rare billions of dollars, whereas a porn film has an average budget of $30,000 or less. It's simple economics; returns verses expenditures. No one in their right mind would spend $1,000,000 on something that will only return a couple hundred thousand dollars.

Games are no different why spend boatloads of cash on a small niche market that will only give you a minor return. Sure as you mentioned the majority of gamers are old enough to purchase these kinds of games but the number that might actually do it is much smaller than would make it financially possible to recoup expenditures.

Then when we take into account the prevalent puritanical mindset in the U.S. especially (as noted by NB8) this will never happen.

[wokking56]

Hell last night I forgot to mention the fact that any major publisher that would make an AO rated game would find it near impossible to market and sell. Think of any game released in the past 10 to 15 years and the months of advertising and hype before that release. Just how and where would they be able to advertise an AO title? Then we have the actual sales of said title. Now while I understand that physical copies are a fading fast they still make up a large part of sales and an AO title would not be offered at nearly all brick and mortar stores, thereby cutting out a huge sales sector. Hell some online retailers wont touch it either. Then we enter into the fact that there are places that said game would be outright banned.

 

Now the lack of advertising would save a boatload of money it would also stunt sales as half of everyone would be unaware of the game (causing a 70% sales drop right there). Then when you look at the lack of sales opportunities because of bans or companies not wishing to handle it that's an easy 65% loss of sales on top of the previous loss. Meanig they would only reach 8 to 10% of their prospective buyers.