rivergiant Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 So I've narrowed down the reason of my random CTD's and it only happens after I install the group of Lovers Lab mods I have, if someone could tell me if any conflict or maybe the install order? Or if they're possibly conflicting with other mods I have I'd be extremely grateful. Here's my mod load order, I should also add I'm running an ENB. 0 0 Skyrim.esm 1 1 Update.esm 2 2 Dawnguard.esm 3 3 HearthFires.esm 4 4 Dragonborn.esm 5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp 6 6 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm 7 7 ApachiiHair.esm 8 8 SexLab.esm 9 9 SexLabAroused.esm 10 a CreatureFramework.esm 11 b SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp 12 c SkyUI_SE.esp 13 d Aequinoctium.esp 14 e Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp 15 f Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp 16 10 RaceMenu.esp 17 11 RaceMenuPlugin.esp 18 12 FNIS.esp 19 13 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp 20 14 SOS - Shop.esp 21 15 FNISspells.esp 22 16 XPMSE.esp 23 17 SOSRaceMenu.esp 24 18 CBBE.esp 25 19 RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp 26 1a SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp 27 1b Improved Eyes Skyrim.esp 28 1c Improved Eyes Skyrim - Vamp.esp 29 1d Improved Eyes Skyrim - Serana.esp 30 1e Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp 31 1f SexLabTools.esp 32 20 SOS - Grower - Extended.esp 33 21 UIExtensions.esp 34 22 SLAnimLoader.esp 35 23 SexLab Eager NPCs.esp 36 24 MoreNastyCritters.esp 37 25 Animal_SOS.esp 38 26 HentaiCreatures.esp 39 27 BDIC.esp 40 28 SexLabDefeat.esp 41 29 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp 42 2a RealisticWaterTwo.esp 43 2b RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp
Plaguetard Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Let me provide you some advice my friend. I've been at this a long time and have learned a lot through failure of modding, so my other suggestion to modding is this. Categorize your mods into groups of what they do. I do environment, gameplay, audio, NPCs, companions, creatures, items, clothing, quests, LL Mods, locations, Body Changes, presents, animations, skins, UI, and utilities, in that order, with my "Overwrite mod" last (I take everything out of Overwrite and make it a mod). I do this for the install order, and then use Loot with a few modifications to the load order. Rarely should you have a mod that affects another mod category, and when they do, I'd really read up on that mod. That being said, in glancing at your load order I see a few of things that I think might be out of order. Did you sort the load order? I find it surprising anything is after LAL. I also find it surprising that you have CBBE after SOS and XPMSE. Maybe try creating a bash patch and see if something is off. Or make sure you are up to date if something updated after the last skyrim update (or didn't update if you didn't update your skyrim). I really think your load order is off, just from glancing at this.
rivergiant Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 53 minutes ago, Plaguetard said: Let me provide you some advice my friend. I've been at this a long time and have learned a lot through failure of modding, so my other suggestion to modding is this. Categorize your mods into groups of what they do. I do environment, gameplay, audio, NPCs, companions, creatures, items, clothing, quests, LL Mods, locations, Body Changes, presents, animations, skins, UI, and utilities, in that order, with my "Overwrite mod" last (I take everything out of Overwrite and make it a mod). I do this for the install order, and then use Loot with a few modifications to the load order. Rarely should you have a mod that affects another mod category, and when they do, I'd really read up on that mod. That being said, in glancing at your load order I see a few of things that I think might be out of order. Did you sort the load order? I find it surprising anything is after LAL. I also find it surprising that you have CBBE after SOS and XPMSE. Maybe try creating a bash patch and see if something is off. Or make sure you are up to date if something updated after the last skyrim update (or didn't update if you didn't update your skyrim). I really think your load order is off, just from glancing at this. This Is the load order from LOOT, and I have the latest version of Skyrim SE, Also I use NMM which auto categorizes mods, I'm a little confused as what you mean by over right mod?
Plaguetard Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 I would abandon NMM. I haven't used Vortex but my understanding is that it is decent. I use Mod Organizer 2. NMM has always been a sub par modding program. I used that when I first started modding, and it just doesn't allow you the understanding of what is installing over what.
rivergiant Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 6 minutes ago, Plaguetard said: I would abandon NMM. I haven't used Vortex but my understanding is that it is decent. I use Mod Organizer 2. NMM has always been a sub par modding program. I used that when I first started modding, and it just doesn't allow you the understanding of what is installing over what. I would switch over but I have like 70 mods already loaded into it
rivergiant Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 29 minutes ago, Plaguetard said: I would abandon NMM. I haven't used Vortex but my understanding is that it is decent. I use Mod Organizer 2. NMM has always been a sub par modding program. I used that when I first started modding, and it just doesn't allow you the understanding of what is installing over what. I know for certain it isn't anything related to SOS or CBBE, Only the sexlabs mods and those affiliated with it, including all the creature ones, because when I disable all Sex lab stuff the CTD's stop
Torikoto Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 16 minutes ago, rivergiant said: I know for certain it isn't anything related to SOS or CBBE, Only the sexlabs mods and those affiliated with it, including all the creature ones, because when I disable all Sex lab stuff the CTD's stop The best option is to disable the SexLab mods one by one to determine their stability and whether or not you can use them during a gameplay. Without doing so, it will be more difficulty to determine what is causing the CTDs.
rivergiant Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 2 minutes ago, JokingHazard123 said: The best option is to disable the SexLab mods one by one to determine their stability and whether or not you can use them during a gameplay. Without doing so, it will be more difficulty to determine what is causing the CTDs. That's what I'm doing now, the annoying part is the CTD's are random, so it requires me to run around in game for like twenty minutes to make sure it's stable
Plaguetard Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 1 hour ago, rivergiant said: I would switch over but I have like 70 mods already loaded into it It's worth the changeover. Keep the download zip/rar/ 7z files and you can just drop those into your downloads folder for MO and it will see them right away. Good luck then. I don't see anything fatal on your load order that I don't have or haven't run before. With NMM, sometimes an uninstalled mod leaves behind a trace. Maybe check for one of those.
rivergiant Posted June 25, 2019 Author Posted June 25, 2019 2 hours ago, Plaguetard said: It's worth the changeover. Keep the download zip/rar/ 7z files and you can just drop those into your downloads folder for MO and it will see them right away. Good luck then. I don't see anything fatal on your load order that I don't have or haven't run before. With NMM, sometimes an uninstalled mod leaves behind a trace. Maybe check for one of those. it's just the creature mods, any Idea what Im doing wrong or maybe different mods to use? I'm trying to get the creatures working with defeat, somehow my creature loadout is crashing the game
thetrudarksoul Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 Same thing is happening to me with my creature mods
Torikoto Posted June 25, 2019 Posted June 25, 2019 3 hours ago, rivergiant said: it's just the creature mods, any Idea what Im doing wrong or maybe different mods to use? I'm trying to get the creatures working with defeat, somehow my creature loadout is crashing the game You're not the only one who has been dealing with CTD's due to creatures mods. Creatures Framework by itself is harmless, till I install a creature mod complimenting it. Like I said in another one of your threads, it may be best to leave out creatures mods from your load list until it is properly acknowledge. 7 hours ago, rivergiant said: I would switch over but I have like 70 mods already loaded into it 5 hours ago, Plaguetard said: It's worth the changeover. Keep the download zip/rar/ 7z files and you can just drop those into your downloads folder for MO and it will see them right away. Good luck then. I don't see anything fatal on your load order that I don't have or haven't run before. With NMM, sometimes an uninstalled mod leaves behind a trace. Maybe check for one of those. I agree, switching over would be worth it and would help with a lot of headaches in the future. So far, 70 mods isn't too much, but once you reach 100+, then switching would be a lot harder.
Plaguetard Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 19 hours ago, Todokoi said: You're not the only one who has been dealing with CTD's due to creatures mods. Creatures Framework by itself is harmless, till I install a creature mod complimenting it. Like I said in another one of your threads, it may be best to leave out creatures mods from your load list until it is properly acknowledge. I agree, switching over would be worth it and would help with a lot of headaches in the future. So far, 70 mods isn't too much, but once you reach 100+, then switching would be a lot harder. Hmm... I'm using creature mods and I don't seem to have any issues at the moment. Here is my Mod Organizer load list (which I know you don't currently have but would be the order they are installed, which is very easy to adjust in Mod Organizer). Spoiler #Mod_Priority,#Mod_Name "0658",".NET Script Framework" "0677","125 Skillcaps and 0.5 Leveling Speed" "0651","3PCO - 3rd Person Camera Overhaul - Smooth Camera Follow" "0312","4K Dragon Priest Masks of Immersion" "0638","A Matter of Time - A HUD clock widget" "0649","Achievements Mods Enabler" "0541","Aesthetic Elves" "0155","Alternative Frost Effect for Wet and Cold" "0554","Alyssa Preset" "0369","aMidianBorn - Content Addon" "0365","aMidianBorn Blades Armor SSE Patch" "0364","aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors" "0367","aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Dragonborn DLC" "0368","aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Unique Items" "0366","aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons" "0378","aMidianBorn Textures For Immersive Armors and Lore-Friendly Armor Pack" "0344","Ancient Falmer Armor HD retext and redone" "0121","Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim" "0561","Animated Clutter" "0580","AnimObjects" "0521","ApachiiSkyHair SSE" "0522","ApachiiSkyHairFemale v 1 5 Optimized" "0523","ApachiiSkyHairMale v 1 2 Optimized" "0164","Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim" "0208","Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch" "0469","Apropos2" "0597","Archery Gameplay Overhaul SE" "0540","Argonian Improvements SSE - Horns" "0336","Armor and Clothing Extension" "0207","Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement" "0324","Artifacts of Skyrim" "0061","Ashbound -- Solstheim Enhanced" "0465","BA SOS Overrides esl" "0587","Babo Creature SE 2019" "0586","Babo Human SE 2019" "0539","Beards" "0306","Bellyaches Animal and Creature Pack" "0307","Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack (SE)" "0642","Better Dialogue Controls" "0060","Better Dynamic Ash SE" "0005","Better Dynamic Snow" "0106","Better Jumping SE" "0641","Better MessageBox Controls" "0139","Better Vampires 8.2 SE" "0039","BetterFalmerCaveCeilingGlow" "0412","Beyond Reach" "0411","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma - Tweaks Enhancements and Patches SSE" "0419","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma Moonpath to Elsweyr Synergy Patch" "0409","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma Overhaul HD" "0407","Beyond Skyrim - Bruma SE" "0408","Beyond Skyrim DLC Integration Patch" "0258","Bijin All in One 2019" "0256","Bijin NPCs SE" "0616","Bijin Skin - CBBE" "0617","Bijin Skin - CBBE 8k" "0255","Bijin Warmaidens SE" "0257","Bijin Wives SE" "0391","BikiniAscendVolume1 SE" "0583","Billyy's SLAL Animations 2.2" "0032","Blended Roads" "0490","Blood and Silver - Cidhna Mine Expanded" "0659","BodySlide and Outfit Studio" "0516","Breezehome" "0518","Breezehome - NavMesh fix" "0410","Bruma Signs SMIM patch - SE" "0528","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Enhancer -CBBE-" "0143","Campfire - Complete Camping System (Supports Skyrim VR)" "0151","Campfire and Frostfall - Unofficial SSE Update" "0144","Campfire Better Dynamic Snow Patch" "0387","CBBE Minidresses Collection SE w Bodyslide" "0530","CBBE Presets Compendium" "0388","CBBE Spice Gear Collection SE w Bodyslide" "0575","CBPC - CBP Physics with Collisions" "0072","CC's Fort Dawnguard Reborn" "0217","Celtic Music in Skyrim - SE" "0219","Celtic Music In Skyrim SE - Combat" "0218","Celtic Music In Skyrim SE - Dungeon" "0220","CelticMusic" "0308","Chappers Demonic Alduin Mashup" "0261","Cicero Female SE" "0595","Cinematic Dragon Soul Absorbtion" "0047","Cinematic Fire Effects 2 HD - SSE" "0630","Classic Sprinting Redone (SKSE64)" "0645","Clean Menu" "0198","College Days - Winterhold SSE" "0073","Convenient Bridges BETA - Special Edition" "0612","coverkhajiits male version" "0462","Creature Framework" "0230","Creepier Daedric Princes" "0317","Cutting Room Floor" "0057","Dark Brotherhood Tenets 16K 8K 4K 2K 1K 512 Redone" "0413","Dark Forest of Skyrim SE - Beyond Reach" "0531","Darling Eye Replacer" "0023","Dawnguard Landscape Overhaul HD" "0478","DDHOTFIX" "0196","Death Alternative - Your Money or Your Life" "0453","Devious Captures" "0443","Devious Devices Assets" "0445","Devious Devices Expansion" "0460","Devious Devices Helpers SSE v1.04.8" "0444","Devious Devices Integration" "0300","Diverse Dragons Collection SE (DDCse)" "0002","DLC: Dawnguard" "0001","DLC: Dragonborn" "0000","DLC: HearthFires" "0576","Double Beds for spooning-SE" "0311","Dragon.Priest.by.Kajuan" "0343","Dragonbone Armor and Weapons HD - Dragonplate Shield Fix" "0342","Dragonbone Armor and Weapons HD by Natterforme" "0328","Draugr Weaponry SE" "0310","Draugr.by.Kajuan" "0548","Dream Angels CBBE SSE BodySlide Preset" "0303","Ducks and Swans for Skyrim SE" "0059","Dust Effects by HHaleyy" "0631","Dynamic Equipment Manager SSE" "0021","Dynamic Immersive Seriously Dark Dungeons - SSE" "0055","EEKs Renthal Flora Collection" "0056","EEKS Renthal Flora Collection Update v1 - v1.2" "0048","Embers HD" "0082","ENB Helper SE" "0104","ENB Light" "0667","Enchantment Reload Fix SE" "0130","Enhanced Blood Textures" "0006","Enhanced Lights and FX" "0034","Enhanced Textures Detail (UV-tweaks)" "0053","Enhanced Vanilla Trees" "0363","Ennead - Shields" "0146","Eremite Camping and Combat for Campfire" "0449","Estrus Chaurus" "0448","EstrusForSkyrimSE_VR" "0065","ETHEREAL CLOUDS - Special Edition" "0067","ETHEREAL COSMOS - Special Edition" "0648","Even Better Quest Objectives SE" "0570","Expressive Facial Animation -Female Edition-" "0571","Expressive Facial Animation -Male Edition-" "0572","Expressive Facial Animation Mouth" "0543","Extra Vanilla Male Hair WIP" "0313","Falmer.by.Kajuan" "0414","Falskaar" "0415","Falskaar - Addons and Patches" "0416","Falskaar Wildlife add-on" "0615","Female Dragonic Argonian Textures 4k - 2k(CBBE and UNP)" "0614","Feminine Khajiit Textures (Grey Cat and Leopard) [CBBE]" "0474","Fertility Mode SE" "0475","Fertility Mode SexLab" "0670","FileAccess Interface for Skyrim SE Scripts - FISSES" "0573","Finally First Person Magic Animation" "0075","Fire and Frost Impact Decals HD" "0195","Fires Hurt SE" "0566","FNIS Behavior SE 7 4 5 XXL" "0564","FNIS Creature Pack SE 7.0" "0574","FNIS Sexy Move SE" "0565","FNIS Spells SE 7.0" "0461","Follow me for Sex SSE" "0150","Food effect for Frostfall" "0084","Footprints" "0563","Fores New Idles in Skyrim SE - FNIS SE" "0434","Forgotten City - Reach and Bruma Patch" "0489","Forgotten Dungeons (SSE)" "0350","Frankly HD Dawnguard Armor and Weapons" "0351","Frankly HD Dawnguard Armor CBBE SE" "0355","Frankly HD Imperial Armor and Weapons" "0356","Frankly HD Imperial Armor And Weapons - Leanwolf Better Shaped Weapons Patch" "0357","Frankly HD Imperial Armor And Weapons - Sleeves and Pants Edition" "0354","Frankly HD Miraak - CBBE SE" "0353","Frankly HD Miraak [SSE]" "0347","Frankly HD Nightingale Armor and Weapons [SSE]" "0349","Frankly HD Nightingale Armor CBBE SE" "0348","Frankly HD Nightingale LeanWolfs Better-Shaped Weapons and Dual Sheath Redux Patch" "0372","Frankly HD Shrouded Armor" "0352","Frankly HD Thieves Guild Armors" "0249","Fresh Faces - SSE" "0286","Fresh Women" "0147","Frostfall - Hypothermia Camping Survival" "0149","Frostfall - Seasons" "0629","Fuz Ro D'oh" "0292","Giant.by.Kajuan" "0030","Glow Be Gone SSE" "0131","GORECAP" "0250","Guard Dialogue Overhaul SE" "0036","HD Lava for Dawnguard" "0052","HD LODs Textures SE" "0297","HD Werewolf Retexture" "0456","HDT Werewolf SSE v2.5 CBPC Moonlight Tales Essentials" "0425","Helgen Reborn" "0463","HentaiCreatures 11 4CSE" "0081","High Poly Project" "0232","Higher pitched female shout voices" "0513","Hold Border Banners" "0074","Holy Wards - a retexture" "0666","Hook Share SSE" "0245","Hott Interesting NPCs" "0158","Hunterborn" "0159","Hunterborn SE MCM" "0442","iLuvLoading SSE" "0375","Immersive Armors" "0377","Immersive Armors NuttyFit UUNP replacer with Bodyslide" "0376","Immersive Armours - SSE CBBE BodySlide" "0519","Immersive College of Winterhold" "0291","Immersive Dragons" "0304","Immersive Horses" "0305","Immersive Horses - Bruma Patch (BETA)" "0636","Immersive HUD - iHUD Special Edition" "0071","Immersive Laundry" "0221","Immersive Music" "0223","Immersive Sounds - Compendium" "0200","Immersive Speechcraft SE" "0321","Immersive Weapons" "0333","Immersive Weapons Patches SE" "0436","Immersive World Encounters SE" "0148","Imperious - Races of Skyrim" "0253","Improved Bards - Special Edition" "0650","Improved Camera Beta 1.01" "0172","Improved Traps" "0154","Improved Wet and Cold Water Drips" "0209","Increase Fall Damage (Player Only)" "0289","INIGO" "0114","Inn Room Costs" "0242","Interesting NPCs SSE" "0229","ISC Enhanced Blood Textures Patch" "0674","JContainers SE" "0491","JK's Skyrim" "0515","JK's Skyrim - Realistic Water Two Patch" "0514","JK's Skyrim and Missives Compatibility Patch" "0493","JK's Skyrim SE Immersive Laundry replacer" "0492","JK's Skyrim SE Thunderchild Patch" "0346","JS Armored Circlets SE" "0210","Keep It Clean - A Bathing mod" "0400","Keo's Skimpy Outfit Replacer - SSE CBBE BodySlide" "0140","Know Your Enemy - Trait-based resistances and weaknesses" "0656","kryptopyr's Patch Hub" "0247","Lamae's Dress - HDT" "0033","Lanterns of Skyrim SE" "0320","LeanWolf's Better-Shaped Weapons - All in One Installer" "0389","Legendary Armors - DeserterX Collection SSE" "0390","Legendary Armors by DeserterX-cp44 - CBBE Bodyslide with Physics" "0562","Lifelike Idle Animations SE" "0676","LL Overwrite" "0647","Loading Screen Smoke Removed" "0171","Lock Overhaul" "0643","Lockpicking Interface Redone" "0199","Loot and Degradation SE" "0568","Lowered Hands" "0205","LPSleep 2 0 4 SSE" "0137","Lupinus - Werewolf Tweaks" "0138","Lupinus Moonlight Tales SE Compatibility Patch" "0295","Lurker - Creature Retex" "0066","Luxor's Sun Textures 4k" "0538","Maevan2's Eye Brows (SE)" "0613","Male Dragonic Argonian Textures 4k - 2k (SOS and Vanilla)" "0508","Man Those Borders SSE" "0287","Masculinized Level Lists" "0553","Megdra - An Orc Preset for Racemenu" "0549","Metalsabers Beautiful BodySlides of Skyrim" "0248","Metalsabers Beautiful Orcs of Skyrim" "0660","Mfg Fix" "0582","MilkySLAL" "0437","Missives" "0135","Moonlight Tales - Werebear Form Bug Fix Patch" "0136","Moonlight Tales MCM" "0134","Moonlight Tales Special Edition - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul" "0417","Moonpath to Elsweyr SSE" "0517","More Bandit Camps SSE" "0628","More Informative Console" "0299","More Saddles SSE" "0464","MoreNastyCritters v11 4CSE" "0611","Muscular Khajiit Textures and Skeleton" "0581","MYSLALPACK v12.0" "0282","Nether's Follower Framework" "0105","NightEyeENBFix" "0567","No Spinning Death Animation" "0238","OBIS Loot SE" "0239","OBIS Loot SE Update and Latest Build" "0236","OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch" "0235","OBIS SE - Organized Bandits In Skyrim Special Edition" "0237","OBIS SE Patrols Addon" "0086","Obsidian Mountain Fogs" "0115","Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim" "0116","Ordinator Beyond Skyrim Patch" "0254","Pandorable's NPCs" "0675","PapyrusUtil SE - Modders Scripting Utility Functions" "0251","People are Strangers" "0031","performance optimized textures for SSE" "0560","Player Eyes Blink Fix" "0509","Point The Way" "0596","Pretty Combat Animations" "0241","Provincial Courier Service" "0392","QUARK - 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Nordic Ruins SE Chests" "0044","Rudy HQ - Nordic Ruins SE Levers" "0042","Rudy HQ - Nordic Ruins SE Pots" "0045","Rudy HQ - Nordic Ruins SE Urns" "0019","Ruins Clutter Improved" "0020","Ruins Clutter Improved - Fixes" "0192","Run For Your Lives" "0371","RUSTIC ARMOR and WEAPONS SE" "0335","RUSTIC CLOTHING - Special Edition" "0294","RUSTIC DAEDRA - Special Edition" "0298","RUSTIC DEATH HOUND and GARGOYLE - Special Edition" "0058","RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Special Edition" "0585","RZ SlalPack009 SSE" "0559","Schlongs of Skyrim SE" "0471","SD362-SSE-main" "0472","SD362-SSE-textures" "0296","Seeker - Creature Retex" "0281","Serana Dialogue Edit - Skyrim Special Edition" "0259","Seranaholic by rxkx22 - Ported to SSE by bchick3 and elrizzo" "0302","Serio's Enhanced Dragons" "0484","SexistGuards" "0480","SexLab Body Search" "0452","SexLab Dialogues" "0467","Sexlab Horrible Harassment Expansion SE" "0476","SexLab JailRape" "0599","Sexlab Light me up" "0447","SexLab Separate Orgasm SE" "0485","SexLab Solutions" "0446","SexLabArousedSSELoose" "0441","SexLabFrameworkSE" "0212","Simply Knock SE" "0068","Simply the Moons (Secunda and Masser) for Sse" "0627","SINful CBPC MCM" "0309","Skeleton.and.Human.Bones.by.Kajuan" "0661","SKSE Data Mod" "0545","SKSE Makeup Configs" "0327","Skyforge Weapons SSE" "0634","SkyHUD" "0024","Skyrim 2018 by Pfuscher" "0085","Skyrim Better Roads" "0083","Skyrim Is Windy" "0029","Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB" "0025","Skyrim Realistic Overhaul Part 1" "0026","Skyrim Realistic Overhaul Part 2" "0027","Skyrim Realistic Overhaul Part 3" "0141","Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul" "0510","Skyrim Sewers 4" "0665","Skyrim Skill Uncapper" "0110","Skyrim Unbound (Alternate Start)" "0028","Skyrim_Realistic_Overhaul_1.8._Update" "0608","SkySight Skins - Ultra HD Male Textures and Real Feet Meshes (4K2K HIGH)" "0314","SkyTEST - Harder Creatures SE" "0315","SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators SE" "0632","SkyUI" "0633","SkyUI SE - Flashing Savegames Fix" "0466","SL Adventures" "0451","SL Defeat SSE" "0579","SLAL Animations by Leito v1.6" "0584","SLAL NibblesAnims 5.4SE" "0578","SLAL SE" "0653","SlaveTats" "0468","Sleep For Credit" "0197","Sleep to Gain Experience" "0450","SLSO Estrus Chaurus+ v4.346" "0206","Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim" "0046","Smoking Torches and Candles" "0070","Smooth Sky mesh - SSE" "0290","Sofia - The Funny Fully Voiced Follower" "0022","Solstheim Landscape Overhaul HD" "0552","Some Random RaceMenu Presets" "0037","Soul Cairn HD" "0234","Sounds of Skyrim Complete SE" "0639","Sovngarde - Mist's Font Replacer" "0038","Sovngarde HD" "0481","Spank That Ass" "0301","Splendor - Dragon Variants SE" "0457","SpousesEnhanced SE 1" "0662","SSE Engine Fixes (skse64 plugin)" "0640","SSIRT v4.1" "0003","Static Mesh Improvement Mod" "0664","Stay At The System Page - Updated" "0360","Stormcloak Armor Revival - HD and 4K textures" "0361","Stormcloak Armor Revival Tartan" "0534","Summer's Custom Eyes" "0318","Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim" "0635","T'Skyrim - SkyHUD Preset" "0323","T'Skyrim - True Weapons" "0145","Tentapalooza for Campfire" "0050","Terrain LOD redone" "0533","The Eyes Of Beauty" "0433","The Forgotten City" "0486","The Mysterious Breeding Room" "0252","The Ordinary Women SSE" "0402","The Paarthurnax Dilemma" "0609","The Veteran Skin - 4K Nude Male Skin with SoS Support" "0610","The Veteran Skin - SOS Smurf and VectorPlexus Retextures" "0128","Thunderchild - Epic Shouts and Immersion" "0231","Thundering Shouts" "0194","TK Dodge SE" "0293","Troll.by.Kajuan" "0191","True Skyrim - Wintersun Patch 1.0" "0010","True Storms - Wet and Cold Compatibility" "0009","True Storms Special Edition - Thunder Rain and Weather Redone" "0644","UIExtensions" "0193","Ultimate Combat SE" "0316","Ultimate Dragons SE" "0040","Underground - a dungeon texture overhaul" "0532","Underworld Awakening - Hybrid Vampire Eyes - SSE" "0637","Undiscovered Means Unknown" "0511","Unique Border Gates SE" "0512","UniqueBorderGates - Beyond Skyrim Bruma - Patch" "0007","Unofficial ELFX SMIM fps performance patch" "0214","Unofficial High Definition Audio Project" "0035","Unofficial Material Fix" "0418","Unofficial Moonpath to Elsweyr Patch" "0669","Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch" "0054","Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover" "0427","Vigilant - NPC Overhaul" "0430","Vigilant HiResPack" "0426","Vigilant SE v130 ESM version" "0429","VIGILANT Voiced - English Addon" "0569","VioLens - A Killmove Mod SE" "0008","Vivid Weathers - Definitive Edition" "0011","Vivid Weathers - TrueStorms Patch" "0215","Voices EN - Part 1" "0216","Voices EN - Part 2" "0080","Volcanic Tundra - Heat Wave Effects" "0049","Voltage" "0167","Wards Functionalities Extended" "0168","Wards Functionalities Extended - Holy Wards Patch" "0079","Water HD" "0671","Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes" "0319","Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes (WACCF) and Summermyst Enchantments Consistency Patch" "0386","Weapons Armor Clothing and Clutter Fixes - CBBE Patch" "0399","Wearable Draugr Rags" "0322","Wearable Lanterns" "0076","WEBS S.E" "0077","WEBS SE lighting mod patch" "0152","Wet and Cold" "0153","Wet and Cold - Fur Hoods Fix" "0620","WetFunction_1.0_CBBE_texture 4K" "0619","WetFunctionRedux" "0646","Wider MCM Menu for SkyUI" "0129","Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim" "0401","Witch of the Wild - CBBE SSE BodySlide" "0069","Wonders of Weather" "0403","Wyrmstooth" "0558","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Special Extended" "0652","Yes Im Sure" "0477","ZAZ 8.0+ CBBE HDT SE Rev2" "0325","Zim's Immersive Artifacts" "0326","Zim's Immersive Artifacts - WACCF Patch" "0398","zzjay's Wardrobe - SSE CBBE BodySlide" Here is my Load Order Spoiler # This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Dawnguard.esm HearthFires.esm Dragonborn.esm UHDAP - en0.esp UHDAP - en1.esp UHDAP - en2.esp UHDAP - en3.esp UHDAP - en4.esp UHDAP - MusicHQ.esp Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm RSkyrimChildren.esm Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp BSAssets.esm BSHeartland.esm BS_DLC_patch.esp FISS.esp ApachiiHair.esm ApachiiHairFemales.esm ApachiiHairMales.esm Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm SleepToGainExperience.esl arnima.esm Campfire.esm CreatureFramework.esm SexLab.esm Devious Devices - Assets.esm RaceCompatibility.esm Falskaar.esm SexLabAroused.esm Devious Devices - Integration.esm Devious Devices - Expansion.esm ZaZAnimationPack.esm Wyrmstooth.esp daymoyl.esm SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp ELFX - Exteriors.esp Laundry.esp TerrainLodRedone.esp Qw_BeyondReach_USSEP Patch.esp Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp Ducks and Swans.esp Qw_DucksAndSwans_USSEP Patch.esp SkyUI_SE.esp Immersive Sounds - Compendium.esp dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp dD-Larger Splatter Size.esp SkyrimIsWindy.esp SRG Enhanced Trees Activator.esp SkyrimIsWindy - EVT patch.esp Veydosebrom - Grasses and Groundcover.esp 3DNPC.esp EnhancedLightsandFX.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp CinematicFireFX.esp ELFX - NoBreezehome.esp Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp EmbersHD.esp BetterQuestObjectives.esp BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp Qw_ISC_CRF Patch.esp Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Qw_WACCF_ISC Patch.esp AmuletsShowOnEverything.esp WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp Vivid WeathersSE.esp TrueStormsSE.esp CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp JBMod - ELFX Hardcore.esp JKs Skyrim.esp SoundsofSkyrimComplete.esp Fresh Women.esp Immersive Weapons.esp Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp Obsidian Mountain Fogs.esp Forgotten DungeonsSSE.esp Ashbound.esp Better Dynamic Snow.esp Better Dynamic Ash.esp BlendedRoads.esp DustEffectsSSE.esp Footprints.esp RUSTIC SOULGEMS - Unsorted.esp FNIS.esp Smoking Torches And Candles.esp WondersofWeather.esp AMatterOfTime.esp CWIELnFXSEPatch.esp Dark_Forests_Arnima.esp Helgen Reborn.esp Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp SexLab_Solutions.esp MoreBanditCamps.esp Eli_Breezehome.esp OBIS SE.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Particle Patch for ENB SSE.esp Man Those Borders!.esp Thunderchild - Epic Shout Package.esp SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp T'Skyrim - True Weapons.esp Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp moonpath.esp JRMoonpathtoElsweyrPatch.esp Skyrim Unbound.esp Point The Way.esp RBB Long Boats.esp ZIA_Complete Pack.esp Immersive Music.esp Convenient Bridges.esp Wintersun - Faiths of Skyrim.esp BetterQuestObjectives - Wintersun Patch.esp iHUD.esp Qw_ACE_BSHeartland Patch.esp Qw_RusticSoulgemsUnsorted_ISC Patch.esp Qw_WACCF_arnima Patch.esp RSChildren.esp Qw_WACCF_RSChildren Patch.esp RaceMenu.esp RaceMenuPlugin.esp SINful CBPC MCM.esp UIExtensions.esp Beards.esp CBBE.esp Ragnar.esp SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp SOSRaceMenu.esp SummerCustomeEyes.esp XPMSE.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp AnimObjects.esp dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp FNISSexyMove.esp NibblesAnimObjects.esp SLAL_AnimationByBakaFactory.esp SLAnimLoader.esp VioLens SE.esp JBMod.esp Tentapalooza.esp MasculinizedLevelLists.esp sanguinesDebauchery.esp Immersive Encounters.esp Keep It Clean.esp SkyrimSewers.esp Skyrim Better Roads - All In One - Merged.esp Run For Your Lives.esp Hunterborn.esp CWIBDSPatch.esp abotFiresHurt.esp Andromeda - Unique Standing Stones of Skyrim.esp Better Vampires.esp Smilodon - Combat of Skyrim.esp Artifacts.esp RBB Large Boats.esp MoreNastyCritters.esp Serana Dialogue Edit.esp SkyTEST-HarderCreatures.esp Inigo.esp UniqueBorderGates-All.esp Immersive Horses.esp UniqueBorderGates - No Pale Pass Gate.esp RBB Row Boats.esp Frostfall.esp SofiaFollower.esp Missives.esp Missives - JK Skyrim.esp TentaCave.esp Provincial Courier Service.esp SexLab_Dialogues.esp Serio's Enhanced Dragons.esp CollegeDaysWinterhold.esp Lupinus.esp Bijin_AIO 2018.esp RND_BSHeartland.esp BSHeartland - Unofficial Patch.esp RBB - Wyrmstooth.esp Vigilant.esp LADX_SSE.esp ForgottenCity.esp SpousesEnhancedSE.esp MF_RadiantProstitution.esp The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp Schlongs of Skyrim.esp Skysan_ELFX_SMIM_Fix.esp Qw_SofiaFollower_USSEP Patch.esp nwsFollowerFramework.esp FNISspells.esp RohZima_AnimObjects.esp Ars Metallica.esp Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp Quest Conflict Fixes.esp Campfire BDS Patch.esp CWICRFSEPatch.esp HoldBorderBanners.esp dD-Increase Fall Damage Player Only.esp EremiteCamping.esp RNAD_FF_Patch.esp FoodforFrostfall.esp Frostfall_Seasonal_Temps_patch.esp Hunterborn - Soups and Stews.esp Immersive Speechcraft.esp Improved Traps.esp InnRoomCosts.esp InnRoomCosts - BS Bruma Patch.esp know_your_enemy.esp LootandDegradation.esp LPSleep.esp Moonlight Tales Special Edition.esp Moonlight Tales - Werebear Form Bug Fix Patch.esp MoonlightTalesMCM.esp MTSE_Lupinus_Patch.esp Realistic Capacity.esp TKDodge.esp True Skyrim - Wintersun Patch.esp WardsFunctionalitiesExtended.esp CelticMusicMerge.esp ISC Enhanced Blood Patch.esp Vivid_TS_Patch_Ominous_WaterFix.esp Vivid_TS_Patch_Ominous.esp WetandCold.esp Wet&Cold - WaterFix - Addon.esp WetandCold - Fur Hoods Fix.esp Vivid_TS_SoS_Patch.esp SoS_VividWeathers_Patch.esp SoS_TrueStorms_Patch.esp BikiniAscendVolume1.esp BA_SOS_Overrides_esl.esp BodySearch.esp Falskaar - SkyTEST and Bruma Patch.esp Falskaar - SkyTEST Patch.esp Falskaar - Bruma Patch.esp Bruma - SkyTEST Patch.esp BS_Campfire.esp Hunterborn - Campfire Patch.esp BSHeartland - Arnima Patch.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp USSEP-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp CiceroFemaleSE.esp DD_Helpers_SSE.esp DiverseDragonsCollectionSE.esp EstrusChaurus.esp Falskaar Wildlife.esp Falskaar - Bug Fixes.esp Fertility Mode.esp OBIS Loot SE.esp OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp Follow me for Sex.esp JKs Skyrim_Thunderchild_Patch.esp Forgotten City - Reach and Bruma Patch.esp TheEyesOfBeauty.esp FranklyHDImperialArmorsAndWeapons.esp HentaiCreatures.esp hothtrooper44_ArmorPatch.esp Hott Interesting NPCs.esp iLuvLoading.esp Immersive Horses - BS Bruma Patch.esp OBIS SE - Immersive Weapons Patch.esp IW_SRCEO_Patch.esp JailRape.esp JRMoonpathBrumaPatch.esp JS Armored Circlets SE.esp ogSplendorDragons.esp PeopleAreStrangers.esp RaceMenuHH.esp Realistic-Voice.esp RSChildren Patch - BS Bruma.esp Serana.esp SexLabHorribleHarassment.esp SexlabLightMeUp.esp skyforgedWeapons.esp SLAdventures.esp Sleep for Credit.esp SLSO.esp Smilodon-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp SMIM-Bruma-Patch.esp Spank That Ass.esp Tiwa44_SGMD_CBBE_1_4.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_CBBE.esp Tiwa44_Minidresses_Dragonborn_CBBE.esp Vigilant Voiced.esp Wearable Draugr Rags.esp Witch Of The Wild.esp ZIA_WACCF_Patch.esp zzArmormashups.esp zzEstrus.esp 3PCOFull.esp MasculinizedLevelListsDB.esp MasculinizedLevelListsDG.esp More_Saddles.esp RSC 3DNPC Patch.esp RSC CRF Patch.esp RSC Falskaar Patch.esp RSC Forgotten City Patch.esp Qw_SofiaFollower_GDO Patch.esp SexistGuards.esp SexLabDefeat.esp mslDeviousCaptures.esp SlaveTats.esp Keep It Clean - Bruma patch.esp Keep It Clean - Falskaar patch.esp Keep it Clean - Hunterborn Soaps Patch.esp Cinematic Dragon Soul Absorbtion.esp DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp UltimateDragons.esp Apropos2.esp SLAdv_GoldWeight.esp UltimateCombat.esp RealisticSwimming.esp Vivid Weathers SE - Classic.esp WetFunction.esp Vivid_TS_Wet&Cold_Patch.esp ENB Light.esp Immersive Encounters - RS Children Patch.esp NightEyeENBFix.esp RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp Imperious - Races of Skyrim.esp Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp Ordinator_WACCF_Patch.esp CWIOrdinatorPatchSSE.esp Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim.esp Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp Lock_Overhaul.esp Ordinator - Beyond Skyrim Bruma Patch.esp ELFXEnhancer.esp SoS_ELFX+Enhancer_Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Reach.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Beyond Skyrim Bruma.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves.esp RealisticWaterTwo - FlowingLakes.esp RealisticWaterTwo WaterColor - Keep It Clean.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Needs Mod Patch.esp RNAD_RWT_Patch.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Watercolor.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp RBB - Realistic Water Two.esp JKs Skyrim_RWT_Patch.esp WACCF_BashedPatchLvlListFix.esp Sum_WACCF_Patch.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp I guess you could try to compare it... but again, I still think you should convert now to a better mod manager. If you plan to mod frequently, we Mod enthusiast use Mod Organizer 2 (well, I'm sure some use other programs but that's what I use and most people I know.) Sorry I can't help more than that.
thetrudarksoul Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 So thanks to a person from another thread i found out which creature mods are "safe" its creature framework aroused creatures and MNC. Hentai creatures might be whats causing trouble, or animal SOS
Torikoto Posted June 26, 2019 Posted June 26, 2019 1 hour ago, thetrudarksoul said: So thanks to a person from another thread i found out which creature mods are "safe" its creature framework aroused creatures and MNC. Hentai creatures might be whats causing trouble, or animal SOS Huh I see, that's interesting. I'll check it out again and see if it's hentai creatures causing the issues.
Torikoto Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 So I had time to test whether it was Hentai Creatures causing the CTDs, but it was not. Rather it was the horse skeleton mesh from MNC that was causing the crashes. You can download the patch here and see for yourself if that fixes the problems.
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