Persisting last exception - please help

[aloeisland]

I've been pouring over my mods for 3 days and I'm still getting the same last exception in groups of 3 every time my character goes to a public/populated location. Please help me im desperate at this point. I have a mac and over 4,000 mods, i've been trying to 50% method for days now to no avail. 

lastException.txt

[smjm81]

50/50 method is a good way to help identify an issue, but the problem with that is you have to be sure when you take out 1 mod that another mod doesn't depend on it to work right. Otherwise you will just add more errors. 

 

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RuntimeError: ('Sim {} failed to find carry posture aop for carry target {}.', <sim '' 0xf30979a96914dc>, object_musicGuitarGEN_01(0x00f30986b56705a0))

This looks like a EA bug but I cannot say for sure. Is your sim using a music career mod?

[aloeisland]

nope, i uninstalled and reinstalled the game so I'll see if that helps at all. 

[smjm81]

Another thing to consider. Was it raining at the time? If so, it probably was the same "umbrella" EA error. Sims trying to play guitar but also wants to open a umbrella because it's raining. Jus ta thought is all.

 

[aloeisland]

11 minutes ago, smjm81 said:

Another thing to consider. Was it raining at the time? If so, it probably was the same "umbrella" EA error. Sims trying to play guitar but also wants to open a umbrella because it's raining. Jus ta thought is all.

 

i think it was, i have an umbrella mod or two installed so i'll get rid of those to try to avoid another conflict. 

[aloeisland]

15 minutes ago, smjm81 said:

Another thing to consider. Was it raining at the time? If so, it probably was the same "umbrella" EA error. Sims trying to play guitar but also wants to open a umbrella because it's raining. Jus ta thought is all.

 

Shit, it must have been the umbrella auto open mod i installed that fucked it all up. thank u for mentioning that i never would have realized. the festival performer was trying to play guitar and open an umbrella at the same time

[smjm81]

15 minutes ago, aloeisland said:

Shit, it must have been the umbrella auto open mod i installed that fucked it all up. thank u for mentioning that i never would have realized. the festival performer was trying to play guitar and open an umbrella at the same time

Yep, that'll do it. They were supposed to fix this in the last 2 updates but of course they didn't ?. Lets hope they did with the next patch release next week.

[aloeisland]

1 hour ago, smjm81 said:

Yep, that'll do it. They were supposed to fix this in the last 2 updates but of course they didn't ?. Lets hope they did with the next patch release next week.

I deleted the save and reloaded the character from my library in a new save and got the same error but with a violin this time  I have no idea what's going on.  There wasn't an issue until I booted up the script mods so it's definitely something that's clashing with wickedwhims but god help me if i know what it is

lastException.txt

[smjm81]

@aloeisland I see you updated wickedwhims since your last LE.

 

Just so we're clear, when you reloaded the character into a new saved game, was it also raining while the sim was performing in the same "world" as they were first time? This would cause the same issue. I would also be sure this is not a path issue -- meaning the sim cannot reach where it wants to go.

Try this first, to help avoid any confusion. Move all mods to your desktop EXCEPT MCC and WW. Then delete localthumbcache.package file in \The Sims 4 folder. Load the game, make a backup save, use MC to reset the sim while they are playing a instrument and travel to another world and then go back. 

To reset a sim, click on the performer (or whoever is playing a instrument)>>select MC command>>MC Cheats>>Reset sim

[aloeisland]

24 minutes ago, smjm81 said:

@aloeisland I see you updated wickedwhims since your last LE.

 

Just so we're clear, when you reloaded the character into a new saved game, was it also raining while the sim was performing in the same "world" as they were first time? This would cause the same issue. I would also be sure this is not a path issue -- meaning the sim cannot reach where it wants to go.

Try this first, to help avoid any confusion. Move all mods to your desktop EXCEPT MCC and WW. Then delete localthumbcache.package file in \The Sims 4 folder. Load the game, make a backup save, use MC to reset the sim while they are playing a instrument and travel to another world and then go back. 

To reset a sim, click on the performer (or whoever is playing a instrument)>>select MC command>>MC Cheats>>Reset sim

My sim wasn't playing the instrument, it was an NPC townie who was performing at a festival while it was raining. It started crashing before I was able to see who the performing sim was. I deleted the entire save bc other characters in the same world had the same issue popping up, but I reloaded the character I was playing with from the library save I have. I loaded her while it was sunny and took her to the starlight lounge, also sunny, and the issue still showed. I'm gonna test the game how u suggested and see what happens. 

[smjm81]

@aloeisland Yeah I took it as it was an NPC playing the instrument and I would still try what I suggested. I have to get to bed now but let me know how it turns out and I'll check back in the morning. Still thinking it's a EA bug but if you're still having issues we'll go from there and try to figure it out. GL.  

[aloeisland]

i started a new character in a new game and took her to the starlight lounge and got this error. i'm gonna try to see if i can find the mod/s that are causing this issue but i'm not optimistic 

lastException.txt

[smjm81]

@aloeisland Looks like most of the issues went away but this is the same error I saw in the first one -- related to a sim trying to make a drink at a bar.

If you use any custom food/drink mod, try taking them out, delete the LE and localthumbcache.package and see if you still get this error.

Did you redesign the starlight lounge using move objects or using a save file from someone else who did? If so, try rearranging the stuff around the bar area.

[aloeisland]

2 hours ago, smjm81 said:

@aloeisland Looks like most of the issues went away but this is the same error I saw in the first one -- related to a sim trying to make a drink at a bar.

If you use any custom food/drink mod, try taking them out, delete the LE and localthumbcache.package and see if you still get this error.

Did you redesign the starlight lounge using move objects or using a save file from someone else who did? If so, try rearranging the stuff around the bar area.

Nope, the starlight is completely base game. I'll give that a try. 

[aloeisland]

4 hours ago, smjm81 said:

@aloeisland Looks like most of the issues went away but this is the same error I saw in the first one -- related to a sim trying to make a drink at a bar.

If you use any custom food/drink mod, try taking them out, delete the LE and localthumbcache.package and see if you still get this error.

Did you redesign the starlight lounge using move objects or using a save file from someone else who did? If so, try rearranging the stuff around the bar area.

i got rid of a bunch of game modifer mods (including some custom cook books) and it looks like it solved the problem. i'm still getting a last exception but all that's on it is: 

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<?xml version="1.0" ?><root>
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not sure what to do about it besides go thru all of them in tiny batches but i just wanna play the game at this point and it doesn't seem like its affecting my game in any way. 

 

thank u for all of ur help!!!!! 

[smjm81]

50 minutes ago, aloeisland said:

i got rid of a bunch of game modifer mods (including some custom cook books) and it looks like it solved the problem. i'm still getting a last exception but all that's on it is: 

not sure what to do about it besides go thru all of them in tiny batches but i just wanna play the game at this point and it doesn't seem like its affecting my game in any way. 

 

thank u for all of ur help!!!!! 

You're welcome. Yeah unfortunatly blank LE's are tough becuase they can mean several different things; mods in wrong order, incompatible mods, mods installed for a expansion or stuff pack you don't have, MC detecting so many errors it cannot read them all, etc. 

 

If it's not affecting your gameplay then you can go ahead and play it but beware that there is still something wrong and it can eventually corrupt your save file. 

If you want, I can take a look at your mod folder when I get done with work and let you know if I see anything? I would just need to know which expansions, etc you have.

Post a screenshot of your Sims 4 folder, NOT in Documents but in C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 4. Open The Sims 4 folder and take a SS where it has EP01, EP02, etc.

 

Then do this so I can see all the mods installed and folder structure.

 

Create a list of the Mods directory (very easy). See this GIF for reference>>

https://imgur.com/a/h1YE1bM

 

1) Go to \Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods

2) Click on any EMPTY spot in the address bar at the top

3) Type cmd and press enter

4) Type the command below and press enter 

dir /s > mod.txt 

5) You should now see a txt file in your Mods folder called "mod". Upload this file.

[aloeisland]

30 minutes ago, smjm81 said:

You're welcome. Yeah unfortunatly blank LE's are tough becuase they can mean several different things; mods in wrong order, incompatible mods, mods installed for a expansion or stuff pack you don't have, MC detecting so many errors it cannot read them all, etc. 

 

If it's not affecting your gameplay then you can go ahead and play it but beware that there is still something wrong and it can eventually corrupt your save file. 

If you want, I can take a look at your mod folder when I get done with work and let you know if I see anything? I would just need to know which expansions, etc you have.

Post a screenshot of your Sims 4 folder, NOT in Documents but in C:\Program Files (x86)\Origin Games\The Sims 4. Open The Sims 4 folder and take a SS where it has EP01, EP02, etc.

 

Then do this so I can see all the mods installed and folder structure.

 

Create a list of the Mods directory (very easy). See this GIF for reference>>

https://imgur.com/a/h1YE1bM

 

1) Go to \Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4\Mods

2) Click on any EMPTY spot in the address bar at the top

3) Type cmd and press enter

4) Type the command below and press enter 

dir /s > mod.txt 

5) You should now see a txt file in your Mods folder called "mod". Upload this file.

is there a way to do this on a mac? i cant find the game files folder but i can tell u i have all the expansions, game packs, etc installed

[smjm81]

3 hours ago, aloeisland said:

is there a way to do this on a mac? i cant find the game files folder but i can tell u i have all the expansions, game packs, etc installed

The LEs show you're using a PC? Ok, I'm officially confused lol....

 

Anyhow, yes you can do this with a mac using the terminal.

I would, however, suggest going into keyboard options and check the box that says something like (going of memory) "Terminal at tab" and setting a hotkey for it. This is so you don't have to type in the full path to your Mods folder

 

**Again, going off memory -- I do not own a Mac but I work on them all of the time so bare with me**

1) Preference >>Keyboard>>shortcuts>>service>>"Terminal at tab">>Set a hotkey

 

2) Go to \Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 and select "Mods" (DO NOT OPEN just select)

 

3) Press hotkey to open terminal in Mods folder

 

4) Type in the command below

ls -R  > mods.txt

 

5) You should now see a txt file in your Mods folder called "mod". Upload this file.

[aloeisland]

29 minutes ago, smjm81 said:

The LEs show you're using a PC? Ok, I'm officially confused lol....

 

Anyhow, yes you can do this with a mac using the terminal.

I would, however, suggest going into keyboard options and check the box that says something like (going of memory) "Terminal at tab" and setting a hotkey for it. This is so you don't have to type in the full path to your Mods folder

 

**Again, going off memory -- I do not own a Mac but I work on them all of the time so bare with me**

1) Preference >>Keyboard>>shortcuts>>service>>"Terminal at tab">>Set a hotkey

 

2) Go to \Documents\Electronic Arts\The Sims 4 and select "Mods" (DO NOT OPEN just select)

 

3) Press hotkey to open terminal in Mods folder

 

4) Type in the command below

ls -R  > mods.txt

 

5) You should now see a txt file in your Mods folder called "mod". Upload this file.

i warn u, it's not a short list

mods.txt

[smjm81]

Lol. It's cool. I'm used to it. I have 20gb of crap in mod folder. I'll check it out and let you know.

[aloeisland]

50 minutes ago, smjm81 said:

Lol. It's cool. I'm used to it. I have 20gb of crap in mod folder. I'll check it out and let you know.

thank u!!!!! ?

[aloeisland]

my sim was petting her cat and i got a last exception ?im sure its obvious to ppl who know this stuff but i just cant parse it for the life of me

lastException.txt

[smjm81]

6 hours ago, aloeisland said:

my sim was petting her cat and i got a last exception ?im sure its obvious to ppl who know this stuff but i just cant parse it for the life of me

lastException.txt 1.51 kB · 1 download

Looks like it's just a routing error...don't worry about it. Delete the LE and if it keeps happening in the same room try moving some stuff around. Still looking at your mod folder I'll have more time today.

[winfrey987]

Hello, I'm getting a lot of these exceptions notifications and I got so frustrated I was about to disable it but I really wanna fix it somehow. I've been searching through my mods, but I can't tell which mod I should delete. The sims got an update and it said it is directed to the Wicked whims.

WickedWhims_v174d_Exception.txt

Edited March 16, 2023 by winfrey987

[SAFMeiko]

19 minutes ago, winfrey987 said:

Hello, I'm getting a lot of these exceptions notifications and I got so frustrated I was about to disable it but I really wanna fix it somehow. I've been searching through my mods, but I can't tell which mod I should delete. The sims got an update and it said it is directed to the Wicked whims.

WickedWhims_v174d_Exception.txt 52.89 kB · 0 downloads

You can't do this. WW is not up to date with the latest updates. Unless you can program code like a turbo driver (like CN).

So all I can say now is that deleting WW is the fastest way to avoid errors.

Edited March 16, 2023 by Super anal fucker meiko