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After roughly 300 hours in my current playthrough, my game will often crash while trying to save. Initially, my game will only crash while saving in or near cities, then it progressively gets worse to the point where i can't save indoors, or even load saves. When my game does crash, it's not only my most recent save that's broken, but several of my more recent saves before, which had previously worked fine. I've often had to revert all the way back to a save that i had made several hours ago just to play again.

 

Up until this point, my game was fairly stable aside from the occasional FPS drops (mostly due to HDT) and script lag. If i create a new game with my current mod setup, i can also save without any issues. I haven't been installing or uninstalling many mods mid playthrough, or made large changes to my load order either.

 

As for troubleshooting, so far I've tried:

 

  • Typing "player.kill" in the console
  • Loading a working save, saving, then loading more recent saves
  • Cleaning my save with ReSaver
  • Have SSE Engine fixes is installed
  • Turning off auto-saves and only saving manually

 

The only method that has worked for me so far, is temporarily disabling mods with high string counts (e.g. Interesting NPCs, Campfire/Frostfall, Flower Girls). This allows me to save again normally, although I'm unsure if removing mods will actually fix the problem, or only delay it temporarily. I remember in Skyrim LE, there was an issue where heavily modded saves would no longer work if the save file contained over 65,535 strings. There's more information about the "String Table Bug" in this thread here. I had assumed that this would no longer be an issue in SE, with the updated engine, so i had previously ignored it. However. I have around 65K strings in my more recent saves, which is around the same time these saving issues started appearing. Can anyone confirm if this bug is still present in SE? Or know what else might be causing this?

 

My load order and most recent save below.

 

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00  Skyrim.esm
01  Update.esm
02  Dawnguard.esm
03  Hearthfires.esm
04  Dragonborn.esm
05  Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch.esp  [Version 4.1.7]
06  ETaC - RESOURCES.esm
07  FISS.esp
08  EFFCore.esm
09  SexLab.esm  [Version 1.62]
0A  SexLabAroused.esm  [Version 2.9]
0B  BSAssets.esm
0C  LegacyoftheDragonborn.esm
0D  BSHeartland.esm
0E  BS_DLC_patch.esp
0F  ApachiiHairFemales.esm
10  ApachiiHair.esm
11  ApachiiHairMales.esm
12  PubicMeshColorRE.esm
13  Campfire.esm
14  Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
15  Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm
16  OSA.esm
17  SexLabTools.esl
18  SleepToGainExperience.esl
19  SMIM-SE-Merged-All.esp
1A  3DNPC.esp  [Version 3.4.2]
1B  Qw_3DNPC_USSEP Patch.esp
1C  Cathedral Concept - Lightweight Grass Overhaul.esp
1D  SkyUI_SE.esp
1E  Audio Overhaul Skyrim.esp
1F  Weapons Armor Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
20  Qw_WACCF_AOS Patch.esp
21  WACCF_Armor and Clothing Extension.esp
22  iNeed.esp
23  iNeed - Extended.esp
24  Immersive Farms.esp
25  RelightingSkyrim_SSE.esp
26  Cutting Room Floor.esp  [Version 3.1.2]
27  Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
28  1nivWICCloaks.esp  [Version 2.4]
29  Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
2A  dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
2B  Qw_ACE_CRF Patch.esp
2C  Qw_RelightingSkyrim_CRF Patch.esp
2D  T'Skyrim - True Skyrim.esp
2E  Summermyst - Enchantments of Skyrim.esp
2F  FNIS.esp
30  CBBE.esp
31  RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
32  RaceMenu.esp
33  RaceMenuPlugin.esp
34  FNISSexyMove.esp
35  KS Hairdo's.esp
36  XPMSE.esp
37  DW.esp
38  SLAnimLoader.esp
39  SexLabRandomSex.esp
3A  UIExtensions.esp
3B  AddItemMenuSE.esp
3C  AHZmoreHUD.esp  [Version 3.6.2]
3D  PC Head Tracking - Patch.esp
3E  PC Head Tracking - MCM.esp
3F  SexLabDefeat.esp
40  iHUD.esp
41  Footprints.esp
42  Five O'Clock Shadow.esp
43  SometimesPickUpBooks.esp  [Version 1.0]
44  SkyrimReputation_SSE.esp
45  Visible Favorited Gear.esp
46  PumpingIron.esp
47  Trade & Barter.esp
48  Improved Traps.esp
49  Order My Items.esp
4A  Player Size Adjuster.esp
4B  SkyTweak.esp
4C  Coin Toss.esp
4D  Animations.esp
4E  CoveredCarriagesSMIM.esp
4F  OCW_Obscure's_CollegeofWinterhold.esp
50  PrinceandPauper.esp
51  PeopleAreStrangers.esp
52  honedmetal.esp
53  TimeFlies.esp
54  Vigor - Combat and Injuries (SE).esp  [Version 10.6]
55  Cathedral Weathers.esp
56  Distinct Interiors.esp
57  GPRuins.esp
58  Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp
59  ETaC - Complete.esp
5A  JKs Skyrim.esp
5B  Skyrim Immersive Creatures Special Edition.esp  [Version v6.6a]
5C  Blues Skyrim.esp
5D  JKs Skyrim_Dawn of Skyrim_Patch.esp
5E  NoRoadPredatorsRedone.esp
5F  SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
60  BUVARP.esp
61  Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
62  Skyrim Alchemy Fixed.esp
63  OBIS SE.esp
64  SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp
65  ZIA_Complete Pack_V4.esp
66  LycHairstyler.esp
67  AI Overhaul.esp
68  Immersive Weapons.esp
69  Skyrim Revamped - Complete Enemy Overhaul.esp
6A  Populated Lands Roads Paths Legendary.esp
6B  Teleporting Scrolls And Spells.esp
6C  Immersive Music.esp
6D  Solitude Docks.esp
6E  Inconsequential NPCs.esp
6F  Keep It Clean.esp
70  SkyrimSewers.esp  [Version 4.14]
71  imp_helm_legend.esp
72  Merge Hair.esp
73  Merge Clothes.esp
74  Merge Arms.esp
75  CFTO.esp
76  ETaC - Complete_JKs Skyrim_CFTO Patch.esp
77  Immersive Encounters.esp
78  Run For Your Lives.esp  [Version 4.0]
79  SleepToGainExperience.esp
7A  Laundry.esp
7B  DBM_Bruma_Patch.esp
7C  Tentapalooza.esp
7D  Hunterborn.esp
7E  VioLens SE.esp  [Version 2.2]
7F  Qw_ACE_BSHeartland Patch.esp
80  Qw_BeyondSkyrimBruma_USSEP Hotfix Patch.esp
81  Tomebound.esp
82  SkyTEST-HarderCreatures.esp
83  KS Dragon Overhaul 2.esp
84  dD-No Spinning Death Animation Merged.esp
85  Immersive Movement.esp
86  SimpleTaxes.esp
87  DBM_AOS_Patch.esp
88  Bannered_Mare_Inn_Rooms.esp
89  Skyshards.esp  [Version 2.0.4]
8A  Frostfall.esp
8B  DBM_IW_Patch.esp
8C  Apachii_DivineEleganceStore_Patch.esp
8D  ADE MLU.esp
8E  Convenient Horses.esp
8F  DBM_CRF_Patch.esp
90  DBM_WACCF_Patch.esp
91  Cathedral Concept - Weapons Armor and Clothing.esp  [Version 1.8]
92  Ashes.esp
93  EFFDialogue.esp
94  RDO - EFF v4.0.2 Patch.esp
95  wizDynamicThings.esp
96  Lucien.esp
97  018Auri.esp
98  SAF - Bruma.esp
99  Sleeved Guards.esp
9A  SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrimSE.esp  [Version 5.2]
9B  WetandCold.esp
9C  Cathedral Dynamic Snow.esp
9D  Cathedral Water Overhaul.esp
9E  Cathedral Concept - Lightweight Water Overhaul (LF).esp
9F  TimingIsEverything.esp
A0  Ezuka's Wedding Rings.esp
A1  JKs Skyrim_Cutting Room Floor_Patch.esp
A2  EasierRidersDungeonPackSSE.esp
A3  Missives.esp
A4  Immersive Speechcraft.esp
A5  ESO Skyshards - BSBruma.esp  [Version 2.0.4]
A6  Cumshot.esp  [Version 2.0.5]
A7  CumshotSL.esp
A8  Ars Metallica.esp  [Version 2.0.4]
A9  SimplyKnock.esp
AA  CrossbowsOfSkyrim.esp
AB  iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
AC  Inconsequential NPCs - CRF Compatibility Patch.esp
AD  SexLab Eager NPCs.esp
AE  DBM_iNeed_Patch.esp
AF  DBM_OBIS_Patch.esp
B0  BenDoonSSE.esp
B1  ExtendedStay.esp
B2  DBM_SkyTEST_Patch.esp
B3  DBM_IA_Patch.esp
B4  DBM_SRCEO_Patch.esp
B5  DBM_ArsMetallica_Patch.esp
B6  DBM_ImmersiveCreatures_Patch.esp
B7  challenging_spell_learning.esp
B8  TPF_MoreRadiantQuestsForTheCompanions_Option2.esp
B9  FertilityMode.esp
BA  FertilityMode_SexLabSE.esp
BB  RideSharing.esp
BC  GoToBed.esp
BD  GoToBed Addon.esp
BE  My Home Is Your Home.esp
BF  Hott Interesting NPCs.esp
C0  Kidmer - Adoptable Elf Children 1_2.esp
C1  SleepTight.esp
C2  Qw_ACE_SkyrimImmersiveCreatures Patch.esp
C3  Qw_ArsMetallica_SMIM_MergedAll Patch.esp
C4  MLU_Bruma.esp
C5  Bruma - SkyTEST Patch.esp
C6  Keep It Clean - Bruma patch.esp
C7  DBM_KeepitClean_Patch.esp
C8  dovahkiinrelax.esp
C9  CollegeStudents.esp
CA  Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
CB  SOS - Smurf Average Addon.esp
CC  LFGNoStackingEnchantments.esp
CD  Skyrim Bandages SE.esp
CE  ScrimshawExpanded.esp
CF  Perk_Light_Armor_Tree_Redone.esp
D0  Perk_Heavy_Armor_Tree_Redone.esp
D1  icepenguinworldmapclassic.esp
D2  Weighted Arrow.esp  [Version 1.0]
D3  LazyTools.esp
D4  CH Bruma Patch.esp
D5  Perfect Legionnaire - Troops Re-equipment.esp
D6  Stormcloak Battle Armor Replacer.esp
D7  LootandDegradation.esp
D8  Skytest Immersive Creatures.esp
D9  InnRoomCosts.esp
DA  InnRoomCosts - BS Bruma Patch.esp
DB  Keep it Clean - Hunterborn Soaps Patch.esp
DC  OMEGA ZIA LOTD Patch.esp
DD  DBM_STHC_Patch.esp
DE  Subtle but Classless.esp
DF  CFTO BUVARP Patch.esp
E0  OBIS SE Patrols Addon.esp
E1  RDO - CRF + USSEP Patch.esp
E2  Qw_AIOverhaul_CRF Patch.esp
E3  MLU.esp
E4  MLU-Immersive Weapons Patch.esp
E5  MLU - Improved Closefaced Helmets.esp
E6  OMEGA EZ Cap MLU.esp
E7  CoS_MLU_Patch.esp
E8  MissingEZs_AllExteriors.esp
E9  OMEGA Complete AIO Patch.esp
EA  DBM_MLU_Patch.esp
EB  Wildcat - Combat of Skyrim.esp
EC  challenging_spell_learning_patch.esp
ED  Immersive Movement - Wildcat Patch.esp
EE  Immersive Movement - Mortal Enemies Patch.esp
EF  J42_ArmorRatingRedux.esp
F0  Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp  [Version 4.0.8]
F1  Bruma - Alternate Start.esp
F2  ELE_SSE.esp
F3  OCW Patch.esp
F4  TUS.esp
F5  NPatch.esp
F6  Qw_ELE_CRF Patch.esp
F7  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
F8  LvLists.esp
F9  Modern Brawl Bug Fix.esp

 

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If you've gone over the string limit, you are pretty much going to have to start a new game.  I was going to suggest installing Crash Fixes, but I don't know if it is a available for SE.  Going through your load order, your best bet is to uninstall Legacy of the Dragonborn, that mod adds so many fucking strings to save files, it is insane.

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