Desktop Gaming

[iJaVaFx]

What are the best recommendation for a affordable desktop pc running pretty much 2019 games with a decent fps and high quality.

 

As looking for quality over price, but not wanting to invest to much what should be the best in term of :

-motherboard

-cpu

-gpu

-ram

-cooling

 

In other word what type of build i should go with 

[Pauduan]

With the current prices, the Intel 9400F is probably the best bang-for-buck gaming CPU though the competing AMD 2600X is better for heavily threaded workloads, and can be overclocked a bit on the stock cooler.

 

I use both, and enjoy the performance of both. You can't really go wrong with either of them and a suitable B360 (Intel) or B450 (AMD) motherboard. I use Asus for both of them though MSI makes some good ones too. I would stay away from Gigabyte. I have a B450 from them as well and they still haven't figured out how to make good inexpensive boards. 

 

16GB of DDR4 would be good. Intel is restricted to 2666Mhz speeds, but AMD can use up to 3200 for another speed boost. Good fast memory costs a lot. Cheap stuff is really not good enough.

 

The GPU of choice would either be a Radeon VII or the nVidia RTX2080, both are on the same cost ballpark but the Radeon is little cheaper, uses as much power and lacks ray-tracing (which is of dubious value at the moment). Depending on the game it is also slightly slower though in some AMD-sponsored titles it's a bit quicker.

 

For cooling the stock coolers are fine - AMD's is a bit better and will allow slight overclocking as well. I prefer air cooling where possible, Noctua and BeQuiet make some decent coolers.

 

 

[iJaVaFx]

1 hour ago, Pauduan said:

With the current prices, the Intel 9400F is probably the best bang-for-buck gaming CPU though the competing AMD 2600X is better for heavily threaded workloads, and can be overclocked a bit on the stock cooler.

 

I use both, and enjoy the performance of both. You can't really go wrong with either of them and a suitable B360 (Intel) or B450 (AMD) motherboard. I use Asus for both of them though MSI makes some good ones too. I would stay away from Gigabyte. I have a B450 from them as well and they still haven't figured out how to make good inexpensive boards. 

 

16GB of DDR4 would be good. Intel is restricted to 2666Mhz speeds, but AMD can use up to 3200 for another speed boost. Good fast memory costs a lot. Cheap stuff is really not good enough.

 

The GPU of choice would either be a Radeon VII or the nVidia RTX2080, both are on the same cost ballpark but the Radeon is little cheaper, uses as much power and lacks ray-tracing (which is of dubious value at the moment). Depending on the game it is also slightly slower though in some AMD-sponsored titles it's a bit quicker.

 

For cooling the stock coolers are fine - AMD's is a bit better and will allow slight overclocking as well. I prefer air cooling where possible, Noctua and BeQuiet make some decent coolers.

 

 

When it come to overclocking is a watercooler with an higher overclocking is efficient or going for a decent cooler and spending on a higher cpu is more trust worthy

[Pauduan]

Overclocking is luck of the draw - not all CPUs will clock up the same way. 

 

If you are looking to overclock, a Ryzen 2600 is currently the sweet spot between price, OC ability and performance - it can equal the 2600X when overclocked, but it needs a really good cooler. Not all water coolers behave in the same way either. Two 120mm water coolers will differ in performance, and a 280mm unit may be better than a 360, efficiency-wise. Then there is the issue of manufacturer optimisation. Regardless of what you do, an AMD 2600 or 2600x is not going to get beyond 4.3-4.4GHz and even that is pushing it. An Intel 9600k will get you to 5+GHz, but for quite a hefty premium.

 

Since you didn't mention budget it's a little tough to make a more specific recommendation. Also need to know what else you'd be doing with the PC (is it exclusively for gaming, for example, and at what target resolution). Depending on these two, it may be possible to arrive at a good configuration.

[iJaVaFx]

5 hours ago, Pauduan said:

Overclocking is luck of the draw - not all CPUs will clock up the same way. 

 

If you are looking to overclock, a Ryzen 2600 is currently the sweet spot between price, OC ability and performance - it can equal the 2600X when overclocked, but it needs a really good cooler. Not all water coolers behave in the same way either. Two 120mm water coolers will differ in performance, and a 280mm unit may be better than a 360, efficiency-wise. Then there is the issue of manufacturer optimisation. Regardless of what you do, an AMD 2600 or 2600x is not going to get beyond 4.3-4.4GHz and even that is pushing it. An Intel 9600k will get you to 5+GHz, but for quite a hefty premium.

 

Since you didn't mention budget it's a little tough to make a more specific recommendation. Also need to know what else you'd be doing with the PC (is it exclusively for gaming, for example, and at what target resolution). Depending on these two, it may be possible to arrive at a good configuration.

In term of gaming i'm seeking something in high spec or ultra maxing at least 60 fps probably seeking something to have an efficient 4k rendering to it, talking about budget, it always depend on the performance, i'm aware some build aren't cheap, but when it's worth it i'm willing to pay. I know that some cpu and some gpu aren't cheap when it come to performing above the regular user, by opting for a water cooler i push the cpu higher but do i shorten is overall capacity over time, when it come to overclocking  i believe it best to keep it at at decent ratio to actually not reduce it capacity over time.

[Pauduan]

60fps + 4k + ultra max will need top-shelf hardware, not really affordable at this point in time. You ideally need the Intel 9700K or 9900K and one RTX2080Ti, and even that doesn't hit those targets all the time.

 

Either you need to up your budget, or lower your targets.

[iJaVaFx]

I'm thinking a decent 4k rendering for blender and such, when it come to gaming i'll probably go with something between 1080p to 2k or else we talking about a 1,5k computer that ended up 3k for a 60 fps at 4k ?

[Pauduan]

I game at 2k (2560x1600) with two GTX1080s in SLI and I still think I would need a fraction more power. A RX580 plays the exact same setup at ~70% the FPS at 1080p. That's a radical step down in performance for a large decrease in cost.

 

The GTX1660Ti is the current price to performance leader for 1080/2560 gaming, but the real king right now is the used market. With bitcoin sliding, miners are unloading their card stocks and a well-kept card can be found at bargain prices.

[Tinkering Solderbro]

Interesting topic and these days from worth, because my PC used as gaming rig too need some updates. At first hand i bought a lot of games that passed the quadcore realm and like to have 6 cores or better 8 cores. At the moment the AMD FX8350 does it but it's power per clock rate is not the best one. To keep my Radeon RX-580 i decided to go with an Ryzen 7 2700 and 2x8 Meg of 2400er ram. This should give a well compromise between gaming and to serve as workstation under linux that like to dance with cpu cores.

The 7 2700 has dropped in price because of Ryzen 3 line and you get for around 200 bucks a 8 core (16 threads) that only consumes 65 watts.?