Pickle_Juice Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 So i reinstalled my Fallout 4 (for the third time) and this time i got the mod "Real-Time Event Error Log" https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/19514 to see if the game crashed again... Lord and behold it did... it kept crashing everytime i tried to load any save, i could made a new game and the game could load the saves with no issues... but when the game had 1 hour or more, the saves started to CTD when trying to load them. But this time i found in the logs (that you can find in this link https://pastebin.com/QwHQupmj ) the word "DLC04" shows up several times, now when i uninstall DLC4 (i think is "workshop contraptions") the CTD now happens when i start the game... i don't know how to read thes logs so if anyone knows please be sure to let me know what ti means...
VonHelton Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pickle_Juice said: So i reinstalled my Fallout 4 (for the third time) and this time i got the mod "Real-Time Event Error Log" https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/19514 to see if the game crashed again... Lord and behold it did... it kept crashing everytime i tried to load any save, i could made a new game and the game could load the saves with no issues... but when the game had 1 hour or more, the saves started to CTD when trying to load them. But this time i found in the logs (that you can find in this link https://pastebin.com/QwHQupmj ) the word "DLC04" shows up several times, now when i uninstall DLC4 (i think is "workshop contraptions") the CTD now happens when i start the game... i don't know how to read thes logs so if anyone knows please be sure to let me know what ti means... What mods do you have installed, if any? ?
Pickle_Juice Posted December 27, 2018 Author Posted December 27, 2018 Just now, VonHelton said: What mods do you have installed, if any? ? Well, while i'm doing this i'm removing (With Vortex) all my mods, but i can 100% assure you i have 0 mods that relies on DLC's. I'm going to Remove all the mods and see if that fixes the game. Do you think is a mod conflict with the DLC04?
Tron91 Posted December 27, 2018 Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Pickle_Juice said: Well, while i'm doing this i'm removing (With Vortex) all my mods, but i can 100% assure you i have 0 mods that relies on DLC's. I'm going to Remove all the mods and see if that fixes the game. Do you think is a mod conflict with the DLC04? Remove all of your CC mods, then check if the errors are still there.
Pickle_Juice Posted December 27, 2018 Author Posted December 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Tron91 said: Remove all of your CC mods, then check if the errors are still there. Hey...i think you might be right... Now i haven't tested the Saves with the original issue i listed... But i have the "Clean and Smooth- Sanctuary" mod that basically makes sanctuary completely empty and flat, now, before i delete it the CC mod files that mod half-worked, getting rid of everything but the Unscrapable houses, but now that i delete it the CC mod files the Mod 100% works! Now i'm going to activate all my mods and see if i can finally play again.
Pickle_Juice Posted December 27, 2018 Author Posted December 27, 2018 7 hours ago, VonHelton said: What mods do you have installed, if any? ? Ok, i reinstalled all the mods i have and the save still causes CTD when loading, i think is because of the ammount of mods i have Here's the newest log https://pastebin.com/2Cj7FDW4 and here's my Load Order, i'm sorry for the really long delay. LOAD ORDER 00 Fallout4.esm 01 DLCRobot.esm 02 DLCworkshop01.esm 03 DLCCoast.esm 04 DLCworkshop02.esm 05 DLCworkshop03.esm 06 DLCNukaWorld.esm 07 AmmoTweaks.esm 08 BuildingBlocks.esm 09 Servitron.esm 0A TortureDevices.esm 0B HUDFramework.esm 0C CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm 0D AAF.esm [Version 38.0] 0E AAF_STATS.esm 0F ArmorKeywords.esm 10 VulpineRace.esm 11 Devious Devices.esm 12 XDI.esm 13 TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp 14 BuildingBlocks-Foundations.esp 15 Atomic Lust.esp 16 Armorsmith Extended.esp 17 AmmoTweaks_Full.esp 18 Rufgt's Animations.esp 19 AKM_AKMS.esp 1A AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp 1B Rage_XOF_armor_pack.esp 1C AutomatronSDTank500slrDesign.esp 1D GunmetalArmorSkins-MetalPack.esp 1E HalfGasMask.esp 1F GunmetalArmorSkins-LeatherCoat.esp 20 GunmetalArmorSkins-DriterCoat.esp 21 Armor_Modifications_Overhaul_RoboArmor.esp 22 WorkshopTransport Plane.esp 23 Vapor-Trails.esp 24 CRX.esp 25 Ext_Color_Marine_Armor.esp 26 Farelle_Animations.esp 27 Mutated Lust.esp 28 GunmetalArmorSkins-RaiderArmorPack.esp 29 AAF_CreaturePack01.esp 2A SettlementMenuManager.esp 2B Shino Poses.esp 2C woodysWastelandStuff.esp 2D CROSS_Gear.esp 2E TDS_PA_WWII_Camo_Paints_Literust.esp 2F BuildableBurningCampfires.esp 30 CROSS_Cybernetics.esp 31 CROSS_Techmask.esp 32 chem redux.esp 33 Glowing Eyes.esp 34 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 35 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp 36 Beautiful Female Enemies.esp 37 AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp 38 LagrieHelmet.esp 39 Prisoner Shackles.esp 3A Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp 3B Thematic and Practical.esp 3C BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp 3D Pos_ShopPositons.esp 3E Pos_GuardPositions.esp 3F Assaultron PowerArmor DLC Edition.esp 40 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 41 The Viceroy.esp 42 blucher.esp 43 clean & smooth - sanctuary hills.esp 44 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp 45 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp 46 The Space Marine.esp 47 ProjectHelljumper.esp 48 Noose - distribution.esp 49 PIP-Pad.esp 4A keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp 4B YA_npcbCurie.esp 4C F4SS.esp 4D Hamed Taneh-e-Derakht Wall.esp 4E Craftable Airplane Sections.esp 4F WWP - PC.esp 50 Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp 51 amazingfollowertweaks.esp 52 cheatterminal.esp 53 CommonwealthSurplus.esp 54 Tomacuzi9.esp 55 WattzLaserGun.esp 56 GunmetalWeaponSkins.esp 57 R91 Expanded.esp 58 BR77.esp 59 NyxSuit.esp 5A Glock 17&18.esp 5B VarmintRifle.esp 5C VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp 5D LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp 5E DWT_MegaMerchants.esp 5F HuntingShotgun.esp 60 VailSterosOutfitV2.esp 61 WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp 62 CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp 63 blrhelmets.esp 64 Commonwealth War Stories.esp 65 TheKite_VTS.esp 66 1FOM_FireAxe.esp 67 LR_VikingBattleAxe.esp 68 Yggdrasil.esp 69 CROSS_RugerMkV.esp 6A Galanterie.esp 6B Kukri1.1.0.esp 6C MP40.esp 6D win1897.esp 6E ehtyeci_MPX.esp 6F Confodere Dagger.esp 70 Famas.esp 71 Marauder.esp 72 Mosin.esp 73 CROSS_Blades.esp 74 Scottish Claymore.esp 75 Boards to Spears.esp 76 CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp 77 FemsheppingsWastelandDrifterFemale.esp 78 S_Uniform_M.esp 79 S_Uniform_F.esp 7A TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp 7B xy - Jumpsuits.esp 7C HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp 7D ModularVaultSuit.esp 7E Eli_Accessories.esp 7F CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp 80 CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp 81 CROSS_Uni_Headset_LeveledLists.esp 82 Concept Outfits.esp 83 CBBE.esp 84 ASA.esp 85 Crimsomrider's Amazonian Princess.esp 86 Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp 87 MAS38.esp 88 R91AssaultRifle.esp 89 GreaseGunSMG.esp 8A PJ-VulpineStuff.esp 8B CCOVulgarVillainsReplacer.esp 8C 2pacSkimpy.esp 8D BZW_Mercenary_Girl.esp 8E CCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.esp 8F CCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.esp 90 CCOSaucySettlersCraftable.esp 91 AAF_Prostitution.esp 92 Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp 93 AAF_SEU.esp 94 AAF_SexStatSystem.esp 95 AAF_Violate.esp 96 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp 97 SavageCabbage_Animations.esp 98 GrayUserBPAnimations.esp 99 LooksMenu.esp 9A LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp 9B YoungMamaMurphy.esp 9C THBrows.esp 9D PIP-Pad_THBrows.esp 9E PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp 9F VulpinePlayer.esp A0 AUG-A1.esp A1 Craftable_Birch_Trees.esp A2 SSEX.esp A3 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp A4 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp A5 BZW_Sandals.esp A6 VIO_Strap-On.esp A7 MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp A8 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp A9 Rage_parasite_suit.esp AA NoTwigs.esp AB Volkssturmgewehr.esp AC Mauser.esp AD ColtM1911.esp AE TDS_PA_WWII_Paints_Literust.esp AF TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp B0 Assaultron Combatron.esp B1 StartMeUp.esp
Tron91 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Pickle_Juice said: Ok, i reinstalled all the mods i have and the save still causes CTD when loading, i think is because of the ammount of mods i have Here's the newest log https://pastebin.com/2Cj7FDW4 and here's my Load Order, i'm sorry for the really long delay. LOAD ORDER 00 Fallout4.esm 01 DLCRobot.esm 02 DLCworkshop01.esm 03 DLCCoast.esm 04 DLCworkshop02.esm 05 DLCworkshop03.esm 06 DLCNukaWorld.esm 07 AmmoTweaks.esm 08 BuildingBlocks.esm 09 Servitron.esm 0A TortureDevices.esm 0B HUDFramework.esm 0C CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm 0D AAF.esm [Version 38.0] 0E AAF_STATS.esm 0F ArmorKeywords.esm 10 VulpineRace.esm 11 Devious Devices.esm 12 XDI.esm 13 TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp 14 BuildingBlocks-Foundations.esp 15 Atomic Lust.esp 16 Armorsmith Extended.esp 17 AmmoTweaks_Full.esp 18 Rufgt's Animations.esp 19 AKM_AKMS.esp 1A AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp 1B Rage_XOF_armor_pack.esp 1C AutomatronSDTank500slrDesign.esp 1D GunmetalArmorSkins-MetalPack.esp 1E HalfGasMask.esp 1F GunmetalArmorSkins-LeatherCoat.esp 20 GunmetalArmorSkins-DriterCoat.esp 21 Armor_Modifications_Overhaul_RoboArmor.esp 22 WorkshopTransport Plane.esp 23 Vapor-Trails.esp 24 CRX.esp 25 Ext_Color_Marine_Armor.esp 26 Farelle_Animations.esp 27 Mutated Lust.esp 28 GunmetalArmorSkins-RaiderArmorPack.esp 29 AAF_CreaturePack01.esp 2A SettlementMenuManager.esp 2B Shino Poses.esp 2C woodysWastelandStuff.esp 2D CROSS_Gear.esp 2E TDS_PA_WWII_Camo_Paints_Literust.esp 2F BuildableBurningCampfires.esp 30 CROSS_Cybernetics.esp 31 CROSS_Techmask.esp 32 chem redux.esp 33 Glowing Eyes.esp 34 AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp 35 Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp 36 Beautiful Female Enemies.esp 37 AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp 38 LagrieHelmet.esp 39 Prisoner Shackles.esp 3A Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp 3B Thematic and Practical.esp 3C BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp 3D Pos_ShopPositons.esp 3E Pos_GuardPositions.esp 3F Assaultron PowerArmor DLC Edition.esp 40 Insignificant Object Remover.esp 41 The Viceroy.esp 42 blucher.esp 43 clean & smooth - sanctuary hills.esp 44 Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp 45 CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp 46 The Space Marine.esp 47 ProjectHelljumper.esp 48 Noose - distribution.esp 49 PIP-Pad.esp 4A keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp 4B YA_npcbCurie.esp 4C F4SS.esp 4D Hamed Taneh-e-Derakht Wall.esp 4E Craftable Airplane Sections.esp 4F WWP - PC.esp 50 Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp 51 amazingfollowertweaks.esp 52 cheatterminal.esp 53 CommonwealthSurplus.esp 54 Tomacuzi9.esp 55 WattzLaserGun.esp 56 GunmetalWeaponSkins.esp 57 R91 Expanded.esp 58 BR77.esp 59 NyxSuit.esp 5A Glock 17&18.esp 5B VarmintRifle.esp 5C VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp 5D LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp 5E DWT_MegaMerchants.esp 5F HuntingShotgun.esp 60 VailSterosOutfitV2.esp 61 WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp 62 CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp 63 blrhelmets.esp 64 Commonwealth War Stories.esp 65 TheKite_VTS.esp 66 1FOM_FireAxe.esp 67 LR_VikingBattleAxe.esp 68 Yggdrasil.esp 69 CROSS_RugerMkV.esp 6A Galanterie.esp 6B Kukri1.1.0.esp 6C MP40.esp 6D win1897.esp 6E ehtyeci_MPX.esp 6F Confodere Dagger.esp 70 Famas.esp 71 Marauder.esp 72 Mosin.esp 73 CROSS_Blades.esp 74 Scottish Claymore.esp 75 Boards to Spears.esp 76 CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp 77 FemsheppingsWastelandDrifterFemale.esp 78 S_Uniform_M.esp 79 S_Uniform_F.esp 7A TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp 7B xy - Jumpsuits.esp 7C HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp 7D ModularVaultSuit.esp 7E Eli_Accessories.esp 7F CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp 80 CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp 81 CROSS_Uni_Headset_LeveledLists.esp 82 Concept Outfits.esp 83 CBBE.esp 84 ASA.esp 85 Crimsomrider's Amazonian Princess.esp 86 Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp 87 MAS38.esp 88 R91AssaultRifle.esp 89 GreaseGunSMG.esp 8A PJ-VulpineStuff.esp 8B CCOVulgarVillainsReplacer.esp 8C 2pacSkimpy.esp 8D BZW_Mercenary_Girl.esp 8E CCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.esp 8F CCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.esp 90 CCOSaucySettlersCraftable.esp 91 AAF_Prostitution.esp 92 Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp 93 AAF_SEU.esp 94 AAF_SexStatSystem.esp 95 AAF_Violate.esp 96 FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp 97 SavageCabbage_Animations.esp 98 GrayUserBPAnimations.esp 99 LooksMenu.esp 9A LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp 9B YoungMamaMurphy.esp 9C THBrows.esp 9D PIP-Pad_THBrows.esp 9E PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp 9F VulpinePlayer.esp A0 AUG-A1.esp A1 Craftable_Birch_Trees.esp A2 SSEX.esp A3 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp A4 AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp A5 BZW_Sandals.esp A6 VIO_Strap-On.esp A7 MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp A8 CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp A9 Rage_parasite_suit.esp AA NoTwigs.esp AB Volkssturmgewehr.esp AC Mauser.esp AD ColtM1911.esp AE TDS_PA_WWII_Paints_Literust.esp AF TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp B0 Assaultron Combatron.esp B1 StartMeUp.esp You have been hit by the unresolved AAF b38 bug. Get rid of STATS and all its subsystems like SexStats and KinkyStats. This works but you might get future CTD bugs on load if you fast travel while AAF is still running a scene. Best working solution is to downgrade AAF b38 to b25 while keeping the newer LL_fourPlay_1_10_120.dll in the F4SE plugins folder. Get rid of STATS and SexStats/KinkyStats. Uninstall AAF themes and install APT until newer versions of the AAF is released
Pickle_Juice Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 46 minutes ago, Tron91 said: Get rid of STATS and all its subsystems like SexStats and KinkyStats. So do i get rid of them completely? or can i just make a clean save and re-installing them?. 46 minutes ago, Tron91 said: This works but you might get future CTD bugs on load if you fast travel while AAF is still running a scene. That's no problem, i play on survival and i don't fast travel during a scene, i don't even load a save during one, i just wait for the scene to end. 46 minutes ago, Tron91 said: Best working solution is to downgrade AAF b38 to b25. I don't see b25, the only number that gets closer to b25 is b23 in the nexus modpage. 46 minutes ago, Tron91 said: While keeping the newer LL_fourPlay_1_10_120.dll and Uninstall AAF themes. I don't use AAF FourPlay or AAF themes, unless you're talking about a file that already comes in one of the mods i got downloaded. 46 minutes ago, Tron91 said: and install APT until newer versions of the AAF is released Already got it installed. Also, thanks for taking your time on helping me out, very kind of you!! let's hope that fixes the issue, i'll do what you say and i'll reply back with the results!
Tron91 Posted December 28, 2018 Posted December 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Pickle_Juice said: I don't see b25, the only nuber near b25 is b23 in the nexus modpage. I don't use AAF FourPlay or AAF themes, unless you're talking about a file that already comes in one of the mods i got downloaded. Already got it installed. Get rid of STATS totally, however you can. If you can get an older save to load, and can make a clean save, its well and good. Use b35 and see, I recall it not giving me any problems. The dll file comes bundled with AAF, you will need it so that F4SE can load it and AAF can work.
Pickle_Juice Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 38 minutes ago, Tron91 said: Get rid of STATS totally, however you can. If you can get an older save to load, and can make a clean save, its well and good. Use b35 and see, I recall it not giving me any problems. The dll file comes bundled with AAF, you will need it so that F4SE can load it and AAF can work. Ok, is not like i don't need it the stats that much, lets hope that issue gets fixed soon! Ok that one i doe see it, downloading now! No delete that specific file, got it! I'll let you know about the results, answer me one question. The game was working fine until a certain point in the game... so the crash is because of the constant update of the STATS? or something like that?
Pickle_Juice Posted December 28, 2018 Author Posted December 28, 2018 13 hours ago, Tron91 said: Get rid of STATS totally, however you can. If you can get an older save to load, and can make a clean save, its well and good. Use b35 and see, I recall it not giving me any problems. The dll file comes bundled with AAF, you will need it so that F4SE can load it and AAF can work. Ok so i did what you told me, sadly that didn't fixed the issue, i think my save is beyone saving, i guess i'm just going to start from zero, the only thing i hope now is that the new game won't crash beyond repair, again, anyway i really thank you for all you're help! now i'm going to keep it like you told me, to make sure this does not happens again!
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