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So i reinstalled my Fallout 4 (for the third time) and this time i got the mod "Real-Time Event Error Log" https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/19514 to see if the game crashed again...

 

Lord and behold it did... it kept crashing everytime i tried to load any save, i could made a new game and the game could load the saves with no issues... but when the game had 1 hour or more, the saves started to CTD when trying to load them.

 

But this time i found in the logs (that you can find in this link https://pastebin.com/QwHQupmj ) the word "DLC04" shows up several times, now when i uninstall DLC4 (i think is "workshop contraptions") the CTD now happens when i start the game... i don't know how to read thes logs so if anyone knows please be sure to let me know what ti means...

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4 minutes ago, Pickle_Juice said:

So i reinstalled my Fallout 4 (for the third time) and this time i got the mod "Real-Time Event Error Log" https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/19514 to see if the game crashed again...

 

Lord and behold it did... it kept crashing everytime i tried to load any save, i could made a new game and the game could load the saves with no issues... but when the game had 1 hour or more, the saves started to CTD when trying to load them.

 

But this time i found in the logs (that you can find in this link https://pastebin.com/QwHQupmj ) the word "DLC04" shows up several times, now when i uninstall DLC4 (i think is "workshop contraptions") the CTD now happens when i start the game... i don't know how to read thes logs so if anyone knows please be sure to let me know what ti means...

What mods do you have installed, if any?

?

 

 

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Pickle_Juice

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Just now, VonHelton said:

What mods do you have installed, if any?

?

 

 

Well, while i'm doing this i'm removing (With Vortex) all my mods, but i can 100% assure you i have 0 mods that relies on DLC's.

 

I'm going to Remove all the mods and see if that fixes the game.

 

Do you think is a mod conflict with the DLC04?

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Tron91

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2 hours ago, Pickle_Juice said:

Well, while i'm doing this i'm removing (With Vortex) all my mods, but i can 100% assure you i have 0 mods that relies on DLC's.

 

I'm going to Remove all the mods and see if that fixes the game.

 

Do you think is a mod conflict with the DLC04?

Remove all of your CC mods, then check if the errors are still there.

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Pickle_Juice

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2 hours ago, Tron91 said:

Remove all of your CC mods, then check if the errors are still there.

Hey...i think you might be right...

 

Now i haven't tested the Saves with the original issue i listed...

 

But i have the "Clean and Smooth- Sanctuary" mod that basically makes sanctuary completely empty and flat, now, before i delete it the CC mod files that mod half-worked, getting rid of everything but the Unscrapable houses, but now that i delete it the CC mod files the Mod 100% works!

 

Now i'm going to activate all my mods and see if i can finally play again.

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7 hours ago, VonHelton said:

What mods do you have installed, if any?

?

 

 

Ok, i reinstalled all the mods i have and the save still causes CTD when loading, i think is because of the ammount of mods i have

 

Here's the newest log https://pastebin.com/2Cj7FDW4

 

and here's my Load Order, i'm sorry for the really long delay.

 

LOAD ORDER

 

00  Fallout4.esm
01  DLCRobot.esm
02  DLCworkshop01.esm
03  DLCCoast.esm
04  DLCworkshop02.esm
05  DLCworkshop03.esm
06  DLCNukaWorld.esm
07  AmmoTweaks.esm
08  BuildingBlocks.esm
09  Servitron.esm
0A  TortureDevices.esm
0B  HUDFramework.esm
0C  CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm
0D  AAF.esm  [Version 38.0]
0E  AAF_STATS.esm
0F  ArmorKeywords.esm
10  VulpineRace.esm
11  Devious Devices.esm
12  XDI.esm
13  TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp
14  BuildingBlocks-Foundations.esp
15  Atomic Lust.esp
16  Armorsmith Extended.esp
17  AmmoTweaks_Full.esp
18  Rufgt's Animations.esp
19  AKM_AKMS.esp
1A  AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp
1B  Rage_XOF_armor_pack.esp
1C  AutomatronSDTank500slrDesign.esp
1D  GunmetalArmorSkins-MetalPack.esp
1E  HalfGasMask.esp
1F  GunmetalArmorSkins-LeatherCoat.esp
20  GunmetalArmorSkins-DriterCoat.esp
21  Armor_Modifications_Overhaul_RoboArmor.esp
22  WorkshopTransport Plane.esp
23  Vapor-Trails.esp
24  CRX.esp
25  Ext_Color_Marine_Armor.esp
26  Farelle_Animations.esp
27  Mutated Lust.esp
28  GunmetalArmorSkins-RaiderArmorPack.esp
29  AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
2A  SettlementMenuManager.esp
2B  Shino Poses.esp
2C  woodysWastelandStuff.esp
2D  CROSS_Gear.esp
2E  TDS_PA_WWII_Camo_Paints_Literust.esp
2F  BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
30  CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
31  CROSS_Techmask.esp
32  chem redux.esp
33  Glowing Eyes.esp
34  AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
35  Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
36  Beautiful Female Enemies.esp
37  AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp
38  LagrieHelmet.esp
39  Prisoner Shackles.esp
3A  Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp
3B  Thematic and Practical.esp
3C  BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp
3D  Pos_ShopPositons.esp
3E  Pos_GuardPositions.esp
3F  Assaultron PowerArmor DLC Edition.esp
40  Insignificant Object Remover.esp
41  The Viceroy.esp
42  blucher.esp
43  clean & smooth - sanctuary hills.esp
44  Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
45  CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
46  The Space Marine.esp
47  ProjectHelljumper.esp
48  Noose - distribution.esp
49  PIP-Pad.esp
4A  keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp
4B  YA_npcbCurie.esp
4C  F4SS.esp
4D  Hamed Taneh-e-Derakht Wall.esp
4E  Craftable Airplane Sections.esp
4F  WWP - PC.esp
50  Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
51  amazingfollowertweaks.esp
52  cheatterminal.esp
53  CommonwealthSurplus.esp
54  Tomacuzi9.esp
55  WattzLaserGun.esp
56  GunmetalWeaponSkins.esp
57  R91 Expanded.esp
58  BR77.esp
59  NyxSuit.esp
5A  Glock 17&18.esp
5B  VarmintRifle.esp
5C  VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp
5D  LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
5E  DWT_MegaMerchants.esp
5F  HuntingShotgun.esp
60  VailSterosOutfitV2.esp
61  WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp
62  CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
63  blrhelmets.esp
64  Commonwealth War Stories.esp
65  TheKite_VTS.esp
66  1FOM_FireAxe.esp
67  LR_VikingBattleAxe.esp
68  Yggdrasil.esp
69  CROSS_RugerMkV.esp
6A  Galanterie.esp
6B  Kukri1.1.0.esp
6C  MP40.esp
6D  win1897.esp
6E  ehtyeci_MPX.esp
6F  Confodere Dagger.esp
70  Famas.esp
71  Marauder.esp
72  Mosin.esp
73  CROSS_Blades.esp
74  Scottish Claymore.esp
75  Boards to Spears.esp
76  CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp
77  FemsheppingsWastelandDrifterFemale.esp
78  S_Uniform_M.esp
79  S_Uniform_F.esp
7A  TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp
7B  xy - Jumpsuits.esp
7C  HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
7D  ModularVaultSuit.esp
7E  Eli_Accessories.esp
7F  CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp
80  CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
81  CROSS_Uni_Headset_LeveledLists.esp
82  Concept Outfits.esp
83  CBBE.esp
84  ASA.esp
85  Crimsomrider's Amazonian Princess.esp
86  Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp
87  MAS38.esp
88  R91AssaultRifle.esp
89  GreaseGunSMG.esp
8A  PJ-VulpineStuff.esp
8B  CCOVulgarVillainsReplacer.esp
8C  2pacSkimpy.esp
8D  BZW_Mercenary_Girl.esp
8E  CCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.esp
8F  CCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.esp
90  CCOSaucySettlersCraftable.esp
91  AAF_Prostitution.esp
92  Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
93  AAF_SEU.esp
94  AAF_SexStatSystem.esp
95  AAF_Violate.esp
96  FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
97  SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
98  GrayUserBPAnimations.esp
99  LooksMenu.esp
9A  LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
9B  YoungMamaMurphy.esp
9C  THBrows.esp
9D  PIP-Pad_THBrows.esp
9E  PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp
9F  VulpinePlayer.esp
A0  AUG-A1.esp
A1  Craftable_Birch_Trees.esp
A2  SSEX.esp
A3  AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
A4  AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
A5  BZW_Sandals.esp
A6  VIO_Strap-On.esp
A7  MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp
A8  CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
A9  Rage_parasite_suit.esp
AA  NoTwigs.esp
AB  Volkssturmgewehr.esp
AC  Mauser.esp
AD  ColtM1911.esp
AE  TDS_PA_WWII_Paints_Literust.esp
AF  TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp
B0  Assaultron Combatron.esp
B1  StartMeUp.esp

 

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1 hour ago, Pickle_Juice said:

Ok, i reinstalled all the mods i have and the save still causes CTD when loading, i think is because of the ammount of mods i have

 

Here's the newest log https://pastebin.com/2Cj7FDW4

 

and here's my Load Order, i'm sorry for the really long delay.

 

LOAD ORDER

 

00  Fallout4.esm
01  DLCRobot.esm
02  DLCworkshop01.esm
03  DLCCoast.esm
04  DLCworkshop02.esm
05  DLCworkshop03.esm
06  DLCNukaWorld.esm
07  AmmoTweaks.esm
08  BuildingBlocks.esm
09  Servitron.esm
0A  TortureDevices.esm
0B  HUDFramework.esm
0C  CROSS_CosmeticFramework.esm
0D  AAF.esm  [Version 38.0]
0E  AAF_STATS.esm
0F  ArmorKeywords.esm
10  VulpineRace.esm
11  Devious Devices.esm
12  XDI.esm
13  TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform.esp
14  BuildingBlocks-Foundations.esp
15  Atomic Lust.esp
16  Armorsmith Extended.esp
17  AmmoTweaks_Full.esp
18  Rufgt's Animations.esp
19  AKM_AKMS.esp
1A  AKM_AKMS_NWPatch.esp
1B  Rage_XOF_armor_pack.esp
1C  AutomatronSDTank500slrDesign.esp
1D  GunmetalArmorSkins-MetalPack.esp
1E  HalfGasMask.esp
1F  GunmetalArmorSkins-LeatherCoat.esp
20  GunmetalArmorSkins-DriterCoat.esp
21  Armor_Modifications_Overhaul_RoboArmor.esp
22  WorkshopTransport Plane.esp
23  Vapor-Trails.esp
24  CRX.esp
25  Ext_Color_Marine_Armor.esp
26  Farelle_Animations.esp
27  Mutated Lust.esp
28  GunmetalArmorSkins-RaiderArmorPack.esp
29  AAF_CreaturePack01.esp
2A  SettlementMenuManager.esp
2B  Shino Poses.esp
2C  woodysWastelandStuff.esp
2D  CROSS_Gear.esp
2E  TDS_PA_WWII_Camo_Paints_Literust.esp
2F  BuildableBurningCampfires.esp
30  CROSS_Cybernetics.esp
31  CROSS_Techmask.esp
32  chem redux.esp
33  Glowing Eyes.esp
34  AzarPonytailHairstyles.esp
35  Lots More Female Hairstyles.esp
36  Beautiful Female Enemies.esp
37  AA Lots More Settlers and Enemies.esp
38  LagrieHelmet.esp
39  Prisoner Shackles.esp
3A  Survivalist GoBags-Chem Station.esp
3B  Thematic and Practical.esp
3C  BrighterSettlementLights_LongAndSoft.esp
3D  Pos_ShopPositons.esp
3E  Pos_GuardPositions.esp
3F  Assaultron PowerArmor DLC Edition.esp
40  Insignificant Object Remover.esp
41  The Viceroy.esp
42  blucher.esp
43  clean & smooth - sanctuary hills.esp
44  Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
45  CROSS_InstituteExpeditionarySuit.esp
46  The Space Marine.esp
47  ProjectHelljumper.esp
48  Noose - distribution.esp
49  PIP-Pad.esp
4A  keke-bu All-in-one Pack_1.1.7.esp
4B  YA_npcbCurie.esp
4C  F4SS.esp
4D  Hamed Taneh-e-Derakht Wall.esp
4E  Craftable Airplane Sections.esp
4F  WWP - PC.esp
50  Sandbag Fortifications - Version 2C.esp
51  amazingfollowertweaks.esp
52  cheatterminal.esp
53  CommonwealthSurplus.esp
54  Tomacuzi9.esp
55  WattzLaserGun.esp
56  GunmetalWeaponSkins.esp
57  R91 Expanded.esp
58  BR77.esp
59  NyxSuit.esp
5A  Glock 17&18.esp
5B  VarmintRifle.esp
5C  VarmintRifle - AWKCR.esp
5D  LeeEnfieldNo4MkI.esp
5E  DWT_MegaMerchants.esp
5F  HuntingShotgun.esp
60  VailSterosOutfitV2.esp
61  WM Chinese Assault Rifle - Standalone.esp
62  CROSS_BreakActionLaser.esp
63  blrhelmets.esp
64  Commonwealth War Stories.esp
65  TheKite_VTS.esp
66  1FOM_FireAxe.esp
67  LR_VikingBattleAxe.esp
68  Yggdrasil.esp
69  CROSS_RugerMkV.esp
6A  Galanterie.esp
6B  Kukri1.1.0.esp
6C  MP40.esp
6D  win1897.esp
6E  ehtyeci_MPX.esp
6F  Confodere Dagger.esp
70  Famas.esp
71  Marauder.esp
72  Mosin.esp
73  CROSS_Blades.esp
74  Scottish Claymore.esp
75  Boards to Spears.esp
76  CROSS_Uni_Headset.esp
77  FemsheppingsWastelandDrifterFemale.esp
78  S_Uniform_M.esp
79  S_Uniform_F.esp
7A  TheKite_Railroad_Handmaiden.esp
7B  xy - Jumpsuits.esp
7C  HN66Fo4_EasyGirl_BS.esp
7D  ModularVaultSuit.esp
7E  Eli_Accessories.esp
7F  CROSS_Uni_Scarf.esp
80  CROSS_BrotherhoodRecon.esp
81  CROSS_Uni_Headset_LeveledLists.esp
82  Concept Outfits.esp
83  CBBE.esp
84  ASA.esp
85  Crimsomrider's Amazonian Princess.esp
86  Survivalist Go-Bags_AE_AWKCR.esp
87  MAS38.esp
88  R91AssaultRifle.esp
89  GreaseGunSMG.esp
8A  PJ-VulpineStuff.esp
8B  CCOVulgarVillainsReplacer.esp
8C  2pacSkimpy.esp
8D  BZW_Mercenary_Girl.esp
8E  CCOFoxyFactionsCraftable.esp
8F  CCOVulgarVillainsCraftable.esp
90  CCOSaucySettlersCraftable.esp
91  AAF_Prostitution.esp
92  Vadermania[AAF_anims].esp
93  AAF_SEU.esp
94  AAF_SexStatSystem.esp
95  AAF_Violate.esp
96  FO4_AnimationsByLeito.esp
97  SavageCabbage_Animations.esp
98  GrayUserBPAnimations.esp
99  LooksMenu.esp
9A  LooksMenu Customization Compendium.esp
9B  YoungMamaMurphy.esp
9C  THBrows.esp
9D  PIP-Pad_THBrows.esp
9E  PIP-Pad_LMCC.esp
9F  VulpinePlayer.esp
A0  AUG-A1.esp
A1  Craftable_Birch_Trees.esp
A2  SSEX.esp
A3  AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches.esp
A4  AnS Wearable Backpacks and Pouches - Power Armor Carry Capacity.esp
A5  BZW_Sandals.esp
A6  VIO_Strap-On.esp
A7  MsAutomatronPartsCollection.esp
A8  CROSS_CourserStrigidae.esp
A9  Rage_parasite_suit.esp
AA  NoTwigs.esp
AB  Volkssturmgewehr.esp
AC  Mauser.esp
AD  ColtM1911.esp
AE  TDS_PA_WWII_Paints_Literust.esp
AF  TheKite_HCD_SynthUniform_Replacer.esp
B0  Assaultron Combatron.esp
B1  StartMeUp.esp

 

 

You have been hit by the unresolved AAF b38 bug. Get rid of STATS and all its subsystems like SexStats and KinkyStats. This works but you might get future CTD bugs on load if you fast travel while AAF is still running a scene.

 

Best working solution is to downgrade AAF b38 to b25 while keeping the newer LL_fourPlay_1_10_120.dll in the F4SE plugins folder. Get rid of STATS and SexStats/KinkyStats. Uninstall AAF themes and install APT until newer versions of the AAF is released

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46 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

Get rid of STATS and all its subsystems like SexStats and KinkyStats.

So do i get rid of them completely? or can i just make a clean save and re-installing them?.

 

46 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

This works but you might get future CTD bugs on load if you fast travel while AAF is still running a scene.

That's no problem, i play on survival and i don't fast travel during a scene, i don't even load a save during one, i just wait for the scene to end.

 

46 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

Best working solution is to downgrade AAF b38 to b25.

I don't see b25, the only number that gets closer to b25 is b23 in the nexus modpage.

 

46 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

While keeping the newer LL_fourPlay_1_10_120.dll and Uninstall AAF themes.

I don't use AAF FourPlay or AAF themes, unless you're talking about a file that already comes in one of the mods i got downloaded.

 

46 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

and install APT until newer versions of the AAF is released

Already got it installed.

 

Also, thanks for taking your time on helping me out, very kind of you!! let's hope that fixes the issue, i'll do what you say and i'll reply back with the results!

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1 minute ago, Pickle_Juice said:

I don't see b25, the only nuber near b25 is b23 in the nexus modpage.

 

I don't use AAF FourPlay or AAF themes, unless you're talking about a file that already comes in one of the mods i got downloaded.

 

Already got it installed.

Get rid of STATS totally, however you can. If you can get an older save to load, and can make a clean save, its well and good.

 

Use b35 and see, I recall it not giving me any problems.

 

The dll file comes bundled with AAF, you will need it so that F4SE can load it and AAF can work.

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38 minutes ago, Tron91 said:

Get rid of STATS totally, however you can. If you can get an older save to load, and can make a clean save, its well and good.

 

Use b35 and see, I recall it not giving me any problems.

 

The dll file comes bundled with AAF, you will need it so that F4SE can load it and AAF can work.

Ok, is not like i don't need it the stats that much, lets hope that issue gets fixed soon!

 

Ok that one i doe see it, downloading now!

 

No delete that specific file, got it!

 

I'll let you know about the results, answer me one question.

 

The game was working fine until a certain point in the game... so the crash is because of the constant update of the STATS? or something like that?

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13 hours ago, Tron91 said:

Get rid of STATS totally, however you can. If you can get an older save to load, and can make a clean save, its well and good.

 

Use b35 and see, I recall it not giving me any problems.

 

The dll file comes bundled with AAF, you will need it so that F4SE can load it and AAF can work.

Ok so i did what you told me, sadly that didn't fixed the issue, i think my save is beyone saving, i guess i'm just going to start from zero, the only thing i hope now is that the new game won't crash beyond repair, again, anyway i really thank you for all you're help! now i'm going to keep it like you told me, to make sure this does not happens again!

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