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- R key causes surrender, but I have nothing in my hotkeys config about it.
- Face discolours occasionaly, blackface, fixes when I load.
-  I have no free camera when being raped.
- Game seems a lot brighten/less pretty than it was before.
- Running animation is not right with a mainhand weapon (video included)
- Missing bits on a person!
- Animations not lining up right.
- My Dogmeat keeps running away, even when using ResetAI and RecycleActor.. He may be the father of my characters baby. Any ideas? He keeps going to Fort Hagen and waiting there.
- Can't dismiss Preston.

Running video:



Missing bits! (I think it has to do with the General Of The Army mod..)
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Animations never line up right-- a bit annoying!

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Blackface

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 14  e     SpringCleaning.esm
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107 6b     VisibleWeapons.esp
108 6c     Friffy_Holstered Weapons.esp
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163 a3     CorvalhoWidowShotgun.esp
164 a4     Eli_Armour_Compendium.esp
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Reason DD_Wasteland is at the bottom is cause I Just reinstalled it and haven't put it in the right place yet. No, I don't use LOOT as apparantly it breaks things-- and my game does go better having manually put it all in order. 


 

Posted

Difficult to know what's happening. Plugin list usually doesn't mean much. You can use Modwat.ch to upload full modlist.
Not that it will make that much difference now, because you have many mods, i may know half of them, and i don't use sex mods.

 

1 - R causes surrender: must be related to one of your mods that have this function, that's up to you to discover which one and read it's description and forum/comments to understand how to change it.

 

2 - Occasional blackface is normal for a normal game, meaning the game sometimes fail to load textures and do this. Especially if it goes back to normal after reloading. Try Rusty Face Fix.

 

3 - This is related to 4P and i never used it. As far as i know for being "involved" with AAF, when using animations with AAF it enters in free camera, i have no clue if it was present before.

 

4 - Impossible to say anything about it. Check your weather mods (you have a lot of plugins for weather, for True Storms and Vivid. It would be wise to choose one or know exactly how to deal with their incompatibilities to achieve what you want). Also, no possible way to know what is "before", so try to narrow down a bit your climate mods and see about REshade/ENB.

 

5 - Have you installed any mods that change animation? Have you actually tried a new save game?

 

6 - I don't think i understand what this is about. Seens you already found the culprit? Bad installation?

 

7 - Again, sex-mods related. Something in your install must be off. Or save.

 

8 - Aren't your whole save game messed up?

 

9 - Aren't your whole save game messed up?*

 

If you installed/uninstalled mods during gameplay, there is a chance that your save is corrupted or is reading Data the wrong way, have script leftovers and all sorts of weird stuff.

Have you tested this exactly setup in a new game? It is good to lose some time playing the game from the start and testing characters and things. Just use console for this, like tgm, kill, but test what you can.

 

If things are weird the same way, you will need to sit down, relax, and re-read the description of mods you installed, see what you really need and what you don't, try to optimize a bit your load order, see if there's any requisite not installed... Resuming, maybe re-install everything "one by one", take care with new versions and updates, and then test the game.

 

You have some not related issued that should had already been fixed while you were playing, that's why i'm thinking that maybe you installed lots of things at one time, without testing the game.

 

You are reposting, aren't you? I saw this but had no clue on how to help, that's why i'm making this post now.

Posted

I did repost, aye-- waited some time, though.

1 - I added no specific mods related to surrendering, which is what baffles me so much.

2 - Mucho's gracias!

3 - I used 4P before without an issue. That's very odd; The reason I use 4P is because I also use RSE, which doesn't quite work with AAF yet apparantly.

4 - Hrm.. I should have brighter nights, but it's mostly during the day-- no biggie though.

5 - Nothing that messes with my running, no. I didn't have it before I re-did my mods. New game has the same issue.

6 - I installed it right, so I have no clue. Atleast as far as I'm aware.

7 - Not sure what to do about that one, since I barely have any sex mods as it is.

8 & 9 - Hardly. It's not unplayable or anything like that, it's specifically those two companions. 

I could try to do another new game, but I spend hours upon hours of hours building in my settlements. It just feels like such a huge shame if it breaks now, you know? I can never get that back. I'll do a new game and try some stuff though. :)

I - for once - actually read almost all of the descriptions I went through, that's what I find so odd. I optimized my load order, which took me hours, manually here. Every single mod I installed I made sure it went into the right place. 

Nah, I installed one thing at a time-- sadly it's a game in progress, so I do admit maybe that's the cause.. That there's a bug somewhere. Thanks.

Posted
3 hours ago, Militus said:

"I did repost, aye-- waited some time, though."

"but I spend hours upon hours of hours building in my settlements. It just feels like such a huge shame if it breaks now, you know? I can never get that back."

"I - for once - actually read almost all of the descriptions."

That's why i decided to reply this time, not being of much help may still be better than anything at all :(

 

This is great! A lot of people install mods without reading and this leads to a lot of problems. Not how i would optimize my load order, hence why i assumed that. Also there's a lot of plugins that could be merged there, but this is more of a tip than a possible help.

 

About the surrender thing... this must be related to either a sex mod or a combat mod, but i'd only seen surrender things around here. Can't remember of a combat mod with surrender options on Nexus.

 

RSE was rebuilt to use with AAF, did you take a look at it?

 

5 - You could do the manual test, animations are usually inside Data/meshes/actor/character/animations. See if you have any folder for 1H or something like that, and try removing it to test in your game.

 

6 - I meant corrupted install by bad install. Do you use NMM? Reinstalling or even re-downloading some things may resolve some issues. Focus on 'may' and 'some' xD

 

Things may break in the save game, and you can play it for thousands of ours and not see any other issues. It is actually difficult to say, that's why i suggested the horrible idea (not joking here, i feel guilty for having said that) to test everything in a new game. Because we can never now without replicating it two or three times.

Seens that FO4 is good dealing with uninstalled mods, but who knows?
You may want to give a try cleaning your save with Fallrim Tools. Just make a copy of the save you're going to clean and see if it helps.

 

I can't say much, if i were in your shoes i would start deactivating mods and doing small tests with some plugins to see what can be wrong. Sometimes you would even need to deactivate a plugin, save without it, then activate it again for it to run properly another time.

Not much i can say that can really throw a light to you, but if you have questions, @ mark me and i can try to help. Some issues are specific and a bit difficult to understand why they are happening. For now, good luck and hope you can get somewhere soon with it.

Posted

Aye, it's odd. A new game doesn't have that surrender issue thus far either. The animations line up a lil better but still not well.. I also can't seem to get the running animation fixed. My game is a lot better since I used the Nexus' load order instructions.

I have looked at it, but RSE with AAF isn't finished yet, so. :)  I'm using the one that still works best with FP as far as I'm aware.

5 - I guess I could do that.. Yeah! Thanks.

6 - I did use NMM, aye. And hah xD

Yeah, I understand that.. I may record the buildings I made so far and just make a new game. :) Testing is at the moment, but I want to make my custom armours etc before I do that too. Just the animations are being difficult, heh. I also reinstalled the FP things and animations are still lining up a bit weirdly.

Eh, I have 200+ and I just recently spend hours to reinstall, so.. As much as it's good advice, I have to pass, hah.

And alright-- I really appreciate it, brother! 

Posted

Hum, as you mentioned Load Order, that's also something good to play with. Try moving some thngs all the way up or down to see how it effects your game.

About RSE, sorry, i don't use it, i just saw people talking about and i thought it was working.

 

I left NMM behind some years ago and i don't intend on going back. Too much issues for me. I was having a lot of problems with NMM installing mods the wrong way and i'm much happier now with Mod Organizer :/

 

Well, that's it then, with a little patience things can start to settle down.

 

NP, i wish there was a more clear way to help but wwe try as we can XD

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