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heya!

 

so i have a few requests/ideas for dark realism mods. i know that this forum is mainly sex-orientated, and while most of my ideas have nothing to do with sex, i don't feel comfortable requesting them on other (PG 13) sites due to their dark nature. i like throwing some realism into my sims games, and life just isn't all sunshine and rainbows. we've got a few mods for that, such as the basemental drug mod, which i'm very thankful for, but others, like the extreme violence mod, just look a little too cartoon-ish and lack seriousness. i also can't for the life of me make that mod work properly lmao.

 

unfortunately, i don't know the first thing about modding so i can't do these myself. if anyone volunteers to make them for me, i am willing to give creative input if needed, or shut my mouth completely and let you do your thing, depending on what you'd prefer.

 

first: mental illness traits

 

depression

could replace "gloomy" trait

in addition to what the "gloomy" trait does, i would suggest:

  • depressed sims having the option to commit suicide during "very sad" moodlet (same for bipolar sims during depressive episodes)
  • depressed trait can be acquired when a sim witnesses a horrible event (death of a loved one etc.)
  • inability to get "very happy" moodlet
  • ability to call a consular, which will help with sad moodlet
  • fun need increases slower and decreases faster (same for bipolar sims during depressive episodes)

 

bipolar disorder

  • manic and depressive episodes that last 3 to 5 in game days each
  • inability to experience negative moodlets (uncomfortable, sad, angry etc.) during manic episodes
  • inability to experience positive moodlets (happy, playful, flirty etc.) during depressive episodes
  • manic sims are more likely to autonomously make expenditures, flirt with strangers or in combination with basemental, do drugs

 

schizophrenia

could replace "erratic" trait

in addition to what the "erratic" trait does, i would suggest:

  • imaginary friends/hallucinations that can only be seen when schizophrenic sim is selected (imaginary friends would be random npc's)
  • more rapid mood swings
  • more likely to autonomously perform mean or violent interactions with other sims
  • more likely to suffer (non-fatal) overdoses and severe reactions to drugs in combination with basemental

 

ad(h)d

  • if sim has a chain of commands, they might quit an interaction halfway through and move on to the next
  • will become bored if they do the same thing for too long
  • adhd kids have a chance to come home from school bored and have a higher chance to get in trouble at school

 

eating disorder

  • can't cook food that is traditionally high in calories
  • option to purge after eating
  • chance to get sad or tense moodlet after eating
  • doesn't get "uncomfortable" moodlet when hungry

 

medication

  • all mental illnesses can be treated with medication which can be bought online
  • side effects such as nausea, vomiting, dizziness, drowsiness and weight gain/loss may occur
  • should a sim forget to take their medication, their symptoms will reoccur; similar to how birth control pills work in wicked whims

 

second: serious illnesses

(mainly cancer)

 

  • symptoms will vary depending on the illness/type of cancer (see below)
  • after one in game week of symptoms, sim has the option to go to a hospital to get diagnosed
  • cancer treatment will cause nausea, vomiting, balding, drowsiness (increased need to sleep) and weight loss/gain
  • chance to die of illness, even during treatment
  • new object: usable wheelchair

 

illnesses and symptoms

and how lethal they are (with treatment)

  • stomach cancer: nausea, vomiting, stomach pain (40% lethal)
  • leukemia: fever, drowsiness (40% lethal)
  • skin cancer: rash (20% lethal)
  • brain cancer: drowsiness, dizziness, headache, mood swings (50 % lethal)
  • aids: frequent illnesses/infections; only available with wicked whims, chance to contract from having sex with npcs without using condoms (not cureable, 60% of dying before old age)

 

third: more "realistic" violence

(no sex violence, ofc. i think the forced sex animations that exist for wicked whims should be good enough for that lol)

 

  • custom animations such as punching, kicking, stabbing etc. for teen through elder
  • victims of violence or witnesses may report it to the police, leading to an arrest
  • evil trait making autonomous violence more likely
  • family/friends/coworkers/teachers have the option to report spousal/chld abuse (and may do so autonomously)
  • if a sim is murdered, the killer has various options to get rid of the body (bury, burn, throw in river)
  • set of make up/tattoos for cuts, bruises etc (i know there's already some out there, but a lot have been taken down/deleted)
  • if corpse is not disposed of within one in game day, the killer is automatically arrested
  • relationship between sims has to be bad before violent interactions become available
  • custom moodlets for victims/witnesses of violence

 

ffs i had a fourth one but i've been sitting here for an hour typing the rest of this down, i forgot what it was lmao.
will edit if i remember.

 

until then, thanks for reading and/or considering.

 

see ya!

Posted
16 minutes ago, xilenita said:


thanks for the mental illness traits! happy about all of them, except the ed ones, which i've actually looked at before. it's not quite what i'm looking for and i really miss the option to manually tell a sim to throw up.

everything else, though - you linked basemental, which i've mentioned multiple times in the original post. i have it, and it's great, but this mod features illegal drugs and alcohol, not medication. extreme violence i've also mentioned above. not only does the mod not work properly for me, (and yes, i do have all the updates installed) the few interactions that i can get to look rather cartoonish. additionally, there are no consequences for violent behavior, unlike what i want, with custom moodlets for victims of violence and police involvement.

Posted
19 minutes ago, saddestboi said:


gracias por los rasgos de enfermedad mental! contento con todos ellos, excepto con los ed, que en realidad he visto antes. no es exactamente lo que estoy buscando y realmente echo de menos la opción de decir manualmente a un sim que vomite.

todo lo demás, sin embargo, vinculaste el básico, que he mencionado varias veces en la publicación original. Lo tengo, y es genial, pero este mod presenta drogas ilegales y alcohol, no medicamentos. violencia extrema que también he mencionado anteriormente. no solo el mod no funciona correctamente para mí, (y sí, tengo todas las actualizaciones instaladas) las pocas interacciones que puedo obtener para que parezcan dibujos animados. Además, no hay consecuencias para el comportamiento violento, a diferencia de lo que quiero, con moodlets personalizados para las víctimas de la violencia y la participación de la policía.

About de drug and violence mod, my bad ...hehe

 

But look, I found this mod "FUNCTIONAL MEDICATION" 

http://kittysims4.tumblr.com/post/115947705874/functional-medication-17-functional-drugs-for

 

 

Posted
7 hours ago, xilenita said:
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These are awesome but dont traits have to be updated whenever there is a new patch? I thought traits worked the same as mods in this way.

Some of these traits don't work in my game :( sad times.

 

Also @saddestboi i swear you and me are the same person lol I have been wanting this shit for ages. I want these traits to be like randomly assigned to sims too, wheres some just appear over time or after bad events. The Emo/Goth trait i used to use was good, but the sadness wears off. I recokon this type of mod would need a super, super skilled coder for any of it to work but you know... in case Turbo or Sacrificial aren't busy doing their other mods they should just add these in ;)

Niksa - the modder who does Whicked Perversions would be great at this too. 

 

I really hope we get some more of this lifelike shit!!! 

Oh and it would be cool to just have random violence happening to your sim too - i thought that was supposed to happen in the violence mod, but like you that shit never works for me hahaha still use it though!

Posted
11 hours ago, UnclaimedTax said:

These are awesome but dont traits have to be updated whenever there is a new patch? I thought traits worked the same as mods in this way.

Some of these traits don't work in my game :( sad times.

 

Also @saddestboi i swear you and me are the same person lol I have been wanting this shit for ages. I want these traits to be like randomly assigned to sims too, wheres some just appear over time or after bad events. The Emo/Goth trait i used to use was good, but the sadness wears off. I recokon this type of mod would need a super, super skilled coder for any of it to work but you know... in case Turbo or Sacrificial aren't busy doing their other mods they should just add these in ;)

Niksa - the modder who does Whicked Perversions would be great at this too. 

 

I really hope we get some more of this lifelike shit!!! 

Oh and it would be cool to just have random violence happening to your sim too - i thought that was supposed to happen in the violence mod, but like you that shit never works for me hahaha still use it though!

omfg i'm so happy i'm not alone with my sadism lmao

 

yeah i downloaded all of the ones @xilenita linked and only a few actually work for me. :/ the extreme violence mod barely works at all. the only interaction that is available for me is "ask to be partners in crime". i have all the make up (stab wounds, cuts, bruises) and the weapons in cas, but i can't see, to make the interactions to even show up. the furthest i got was being able to click the chainsaw interaction. my sim got the serial killer moodlet, but didn't actually kill anyone. he also kept walking around with the chainsaw in his hand, which bugged pretty much everything else (other interactions such as eating or showering got randomly cancelled halfway through) and it only went away when i edited him again in cas. uggghhh.

 

i've requested a mod for spousal/child abüse before, similar to the realistic violence mod here with custom moodlets for victims and the ability to report to authorities, but it instantly got deleted because mods apparently thought i was asking for a räpe mod... which just proves to me that mods tend to only look at the title and not read the full post. i could go on a really long rant here but i'd rather not get in trouble lol.

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Also it would be great to keep sims in bed. I've even gone so far as to clutter the bed but no hope. Kinda ruins creating a hospital or a severely sick sim scenario. But these moda are great! Brilliant for gritty realism.

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On 7/19/2018 at 2:22 PM, Dovahkriid2 said:

Also it would be great to keep sims in bed. I've even gone so far as to clutter the bed but no hope. Kinda ruins creating a hospital or a severely sick sim scenario. But these moda are great! Brilliant for gritty realism.

That is exactly what I need. I have flerb's automatic burn scars and sunburns http://modthesims.info/d/607604/automatic-sunburns-get-famous-v9-34-hotfix.html http://modthesims.info/d/597048/automatic-burn-scars-skin-detail-update-3-7.html and wwhen my sims are severely burned or have cancer I would like them to stay in bed. Right now I have to be satisfied with posing them and leaving them to rot. lol

  • 3 weeks later...
Posted

I would love to see more serious diseases in the Sims 4. In Sims 2 you could get bronchitis and when you didn't treat it pneumonia ?

I would even be happy if I could send my Sims to the hospital than they are sick... Man S4 lacks so much darkness in comparison to S2, though EA said they wanted to add disabilities in the future. ?

The world is filled with diseases and suffering, why not implement it in a life simulation?

I hope we find someone who could help us with our ideas. If there is an interested modder, but he or she isn't good in medicine one can ask me, i think, there still might be the book of history of medicine lying around somewhere?.

Here some more inspirations:

 

Multiple Sclerosis

- Needs decay faster

- Suddenly wetting oneself

- Often dazed

- Weird walking animation?

- Usable Wheelchair (Please!)

 

Parkinsonism

- Mostly when Sims are old

- Small chance to develop for YA and A

- Fitting animation

- Being more clumsy

 

Acute appendicitis

- Diarrhea

-Pain moodlet

- When not rushed into a hospital and treated deadly

 

Diabetes

- Need for functional medication (i.e Insulin) -> Maybe KittySims 4 would help

-feeling nauseous, hyperactive, dazed etc. [maybe based on a script which measures blood sugar?]

- If not treated deadly (Type 1 and 3  -> yes, there actually exists a Type 3 Diabetes. It happens after a pancreatectomy and in some genetic disorders)

 

Sinusitis, Bronchitis, Pneumonia, Migraine etc.

- You all know the symptoms -> mostly moodlets and maybe some reused animation from Get to Work or S2

 

But for now:

Weak immune system (http://sssvitlans.tumblr.com/post/127128423004/drewshivers-custom-cas-trait-weak-immune)

Fibromyalgia http://modthesims.info/d/606688/fibromyalgia-trait-mod.html

Arthritis (http://sssvitlans.tumblr.com/post/127383786909/drewshivers-custom-cas-trait-arthritis-hes)

Insomniac Trait (http://retoxicated.tumblr.com/post/134668665753/drewshivers-custom-cas-trait-insomniac-the)

Narcoleptic (http://pastel-goth-sims-cc.tumblr.com/post/129959105212/drewshivers-drewshivers-drewshivers)

 

 

Posted
On 3/2/2019 at 8:53 AM, TanteJulchen said:

I would love to see more serious diseases in the Sims 4. In Sims 2 you could get bronchitis and when you didn't treat it pneumonia ?

I would even be happy if I could send my Sims to the hospital than they are sick... Man S4 lacks so much darkness in comparison to S2, though EA said they wanted to add disabilities in the future. ?

The world is filled with diseases and suffering, why not implement it in a life simulation?

I hope we find someone who could help us with our ideas. If there is an interested modder, but he or she isn't good in medicine one can ask me, i think, there still might be the book of history of medicine lying around somewhere?.

Here some more inspirations:

 

Multiple Sclerosis

- Needs decay faster

- Suddenly wetting oneself

- Often dazed

- Weird walking animation?

- Usable Wheelchair (Please!)

 

Parkinsonism

- Mostly when Sims are old

- Small chance to develop for YA and A

- Fitting animation

- Being more clumsy

 

Acute appendicitis

- Diarrhea

-Pain moodlet

- When not rushed into a hospital and treated deadly

 

Diabetes

- Need for functional medication (i.e Insulin) -> Maybe KittySims 4 would help

-feeling nauseous, hyperactive, dazed etc. [maybe based on a script which measures blood sugar?]

- If not treated deadly (Type 1 and 3  -> yes, there actually exists a Type 3 Diabetes. It happens after a pancreatectomy and in some genetic disorders)

 

Sinusitis, Bronchitis, Pneumonia, Migraine etc.

- You all know the symptoms -> mostly moodlets and maybe some reused animation from Get to Work or S2

 

But for now:

Weak immune system (http://sssvitlans.tumblr.com/post/127128423004/drewshivers-custom-cas-trait-weak-immune)

Fibromyalgia http://modthesims.info/d/606688/fibromyalgia-trait-mod.html

Arthritis (http://sssvitlans.tumblr.com/post/127383786909/drewshivers-custom-cas-trait-arthritis-hes)

Insomniac Trait (http://retoxicated.tumblr.com/post/134668665753/drewshivers-custom-cas-trait-insomniac-the)

Narcoleptic (http://pastel-goth-sims-cc.tumblr.com/post/129959105212/drewshivers-drewshivers-drewshivers)

 

 

Do all those traits work? Like are they updated with the game?

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Posted

The linked bulimic trait isn't available anymore, I've been on the search for some newer versions but they all just take me back to that link :'(

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Posted

I’d love there to be a therapy mod where your sim can go to therapy and discuss their issues, would be awesome if someone could create a mod like that.?

  • 7 months later...
Posted

Hello! I've really loved those mods but now with the update they're not working anymore and I was wondering fi anyoone was able to update the mods ?? Thank you again!

 

Posted

Just wanted to pop this into the conversation:

There's a mod called "Life's Tragedies" by Sacrificial. It might interest some of you looking for dark realism. There's kidnappings, fatal diseases, car accidents, and so on. I like to use it for my sims that are supposed to be extremely unlucky and constantly struggling (I exclude the main sim from being able to have deadly things happen to them but everyone around them can be hurt, kidnapped, infected, and so on).

I'm sure most of you have stumbled on it already if you're searching for this sort of thing, but I thought I'd add it anyways. Even has a custom "injured" walk style as well as all the other animations the mod comes with (And not all of them are cartoonish either....some of them actively had me a bit startled, they seemed so genuine ;-;)

((Also, I hope I'm not bringing a dead thread back to life...I never know what the standards are for that sort of thing))

Posted

Hey

there are also this mod out there of the post mortem time... https://www.simrealist.com/mortem it might also help on some of the cartoonish aspects of extream violence and life tragedies... there are also this : http://modthesims.info/d/605259/cooler-sicknesses-mod-v-2-2-2.html

 

and maybe this one https://www.simrealist.com/private-practice 

 

and i think but i am not fully sure, that the slice of life mod update has implemented eating disorders, as well as mean comments on weight and body type... that can give negative or positive moodlets...  https://www.kawaiistaciemods.com/post/slice-of-life-mod maybe combined with some of the traits it would work even better... 

it is not completely what was asked for... but maybe it will help a little on the game play... 

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Posted

Hey y'all, has anyone found updated traits for the PTSD and Dissociative Identity Disorder traits created by piebaldfawn? They've both been deleted from modthesims by the creator and I'm super sad about it \: I actually just found a different DID mod posted Jan 2020 which is awesome, but they're different in a lot of ways obviously. Has anyone seen any other versions of these?

 

PTSD: https://thesimscatalog.com/sims4/downloads/game-mods/traits/ptsd-trait-v1-2-cats-and-dogs-compatible/

DID: https://sims4downloads.net/mod-the-sims-dissociative-identity-disorder-trait-by-piebaldfawn/

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