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This might be a little silly to ask but i just have too many mods to find the answer. I've had ASLAL for a very long time and recently i've started exploring LL and getting A LOT of mods for skyrim. I vaguely remember 1 mod in particular that specifically said would CTD with ASLAL and to disable it while starting a new game. I never thought i might actually have to do that since i already had my character and could just change my body if i wanted to with showracemenu so i saw no reason to start a new game if all the mods worked. And they did mostly, but now recently i had noticed some of the mods had quests i could do from the beginning but they never popped up in game. So i said "hey well let's just start a new game that could work" and lo and behold i forgot there was 1 mod that didn't work with ASLAL. So now i just can't remember which one it was and having almost 180 mods to search through makes it a little bit difficult. If anyone can remember any mod from here that specifically stated it didn't work with ASLAL, please let me know. I don't know if i should post my plugins list since its almost 200 plugins, including the default skyrim ones.

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The only mods that come to mind that don't work with LAL are Maria Eden (possibly only an older version?) and any other mods that offer alternative starts like Skyrim Unbound.
  
 

i already had my character and could just change my body if i wanted to with showracemenu so i saw no reason to start a new game if all the mods worked.

 
A lot of mods (almost all of them actually) do their setup right when you press "new game." It doesn't happen during or after character creation, or after leaving Helgen, or after sleeping in the bed in the LAL cell. I know, it seems like they should do their stuff after sleeping in the bed - after all, you haven't really started playing yet, have you? - but the truth is by the time you talk to the mara statue you're already locked in.
So updating, changing, or removing any mods can be just as bad on that save as one you've been playing for 20 hours.
I know it's a pain in the ass to start an entirely new game every time, what with reconfiguring a mass of MCM settings, but it's really the only way to do it properly. Keeping a save in the LAL cell and reusing that save only works well if you make absolutely no changes to your mod list between games.

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The only mods that come to mind that don't work with LAL are Maria Eden (possibly only an older version?) and any other mods that offer alternative starts like Skyrim Unbound.

Yeah i know, but i remember there was one mod i downloaded that said it didn't work with it and it didn't change the beginning it was just a bug that crashed the game everytime it started with LAL, I remember the mod author said to just disable it in a new game.

 

 

Your load order would help.

Ah well ok then, if it helps.

 

Skyrim.esm=1
Update.esm=1
Dawnguard.esm=1
HearthFires.esm=1
Dragonborn.esm=1
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp=1
ApachiiHair.esm=1
ApachiiHairFemales.esm=1
ApachiiHairMales.esm=1
ZaZAnimationPack.esm=1
RaceCompatibility.esm=1
BeeingFemale.esm=1
SexLab.esm=1
SexLabAroused.esm=1
Devious Devices - Assets.esm=1
Devious Devices - Integration.esm=1
devourment.esm=1
Apachii_DivineEleganceStore.esm=1
Futanarium.esm=1
OblivionHairPackAIO.esm=1
SGHairPackBase.esm=1
Skykids.esm=1
SK Drow Child Race.esm=1
SK Monli Race.esm=1
SK Children of the Sky.esm=1
SK TheEyesOfBeauty.esm=1
dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm=1
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm=1
HentaiPregnancy.esm=1
PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm=1
CreatureFramework.esm=1
PubicMeshColorRE.esm=1
OSA.esm=1
Cutting Room Floor.esp=1
SkyUI.esp=1
FNISSexyMove.esp=1
Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp=1
Craftable_Hair_groin.esp=1
Beasts of Tamriel.esp=1
AnotherSortingMod-2016.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer.esp=1
OCR-Fixes.esp=1
RaceMenu.esp=1
RaceMenuPlugin.esp=1
RaceMenuOverlays.esp=1
BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp=1
Daedric Dawnbreaker.esp=1
ogDiverseDragons.esp=1
ogDiverseDragons2.esp=1
Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp=1
Relationship Dialogue Overhaul.esp=1
No More Standing Too Close to NPCs.esp=1
Skyrim Unlimited Rings And Amulets.esp=1
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp=1
Futanarium.esp=1
Futanarium_equip.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid.esp=1
HearthfireMultiKid_LastName.esp=1
SLAnimLoader.esp=1
MoreNastyCritters.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp=1
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp=1
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp=1
MilkModNEW.esp=1
HDT Havok Object.esp=1
BlackthornManor.esp=1
Shout Like a Virgin.esp=1
ZaForswornStory.esp=1
MilkMod_MilkPumpsFancyNB.esp=1
Phenderix Magic World.esp=1
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp=1
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp=1
SexLab-Stories.esp=1
CoB The Adiposian Race.esp=1
RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp=1
animal_mansion.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Merge.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Replacer.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Replacer HF.esp=1
COHO-Daughters.esp=1
ArcheryDummyXP.esp=1
HentaiCreatures.esp=1
Pearl Juice.esp=1
Immersive Wenches.esp=1
The Dungeon.esp=1
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp=1
SOS - Shop.esp=1
Naruto Overhaul.esp=1
Immersive Wenches -Apachii hairs- Patch.esp=1
FNISspells.esp=1
UchihaClan.esp=1
TropicalIsland.esp=1
garm_sr_no_armor.esp=1
sandboxcylinderheight.esp=1
bookofknowledge.esp=1
My Home Is Your Home.esp=1
MF_RadiantProstitution.esp=1
Hearthfire Warehouse.esp=1
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp=1
PeeAndFart.esp=1
Dwemer Storage Cube.esp=1
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp=1
Ordinator - Perks of Skyrim.esp=1
Apocalypse - Ordinator Compatibility Patch.esp=1
SexLabDefeat.esp=1
CeciliaFollower.esp=1
PerrineFollower.esp=1
BodyChange.esp=1
The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp=1
Babette.esp=1
SGHairPackAIO.esp=1
SK Lolydia.esp=1
monli preset1.esp=1
monli preset2.esp=1
monli preset3.esp=1
SK Vanilla Child Replacer DB.esp=1
SK Playable Kids.esp=1
sk-cutting room floor.esp=1
Sk-Prisoners.esp=1
SOS - B3lisario UNP Addon.esp=1
SOS_Ho.esp=1
SOS Equipable Schlong.esp=1
PuppetMasterSwallow.esp=1
Giants.esp=1
TTT SOS Futanarium Accessories.esp=1
SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Equipable.esp=1
SOS - ERF Horse Penis CBBE - Addon.esp=1
TERAArmors_CBBE.esp=1
SOS - TTT Futanarium wballs Addon.esp=1
JaxonzEnhGrab.esp=1
UIExtensions.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Underwear.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dawnguard.esp=1
Remodeled Armor - Vanilla Replacer - Dragonborn.esp=1
Devious Deviants.esp=1
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp=1
UnifiedDevourmentPatch.esp=1
SlaveTats.esp=1
SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp=1
Jugs.esp=1
ExtraPocket.esp=1
dc-untamed-000.esp=1
PuppetMaster.esp=1
NibblesAnimObjects.esp=1
KomAnimObjects.esp=1
SLAL_K4Anims.esp=1
HPSoulGemBirth.esp=1
MilkModNEW CF.esp=1
MilkModNEW HF.esp=1
MilkModNEW Sanbox.esp=1
MilkModNEW ZaZ.esp=1
BeeingFemaleBasicAddOn.esp=1
SexLab Inflation Framework.esp=1
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp=1
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp=1
FloppySOS.esp=1
SLAL_AnimationsByLeito.esp=1
SLALAnimObj.esp=1
GenderSpecificSounds.esp=1
DevourmentFootsteps.esp=1
WeightMorphs.esp=1
RND_Weight.esp=1
CoB Adiposian Armor Deathshell Any Race.esp=1
HDTSextoys.esp=1
AddItemMenu.esp=1
Anal Torch.esp=1
Jennifer.esp=1
SK Drow Taldyn.esp=1
Extended Slider Colors.esp=1
12FemaleBrows.esp=1
RailLight.esp=1
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp=1
XPMSE.esp=1
SOSRaceMenu.esp=1
FNIS.esp=1
HAnimations.esp=1
nazonootokoAnimSLAL.esp=1
Sword of Michael.esp=1
FISS.esp=1
SK-BlackthornManor.esp=1
UchihaClan_RemoveSpellTomes.esp=1
Kongpow 0.65c RND patch 28072015.esp=1
RND_AnimalLoot.esp=1
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp=1
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I was thinking that I might recognize problem mods from my own experiences.

I did see that you have both radiant Prostitution and TDF Prostitution, which seems redundant to me, but that is not likely the issue.

I would look at your AI mods and child mods since I don't use any of them.

Btw, do you use Crash Fixes? http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/72725/?

I'm adding my load order so you can do a comparison and check those that we do not have in common.

 

 

Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
RaceCompatibility.esm
CreatureFramework.esm
SexLab.esm
Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
SexLabAroused.esm
Devious Devices - Assets.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
hdtHighHeel.esm
WM Flora Fixes.esp
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
SexlabInteractiveArousal.esm
BSAssets.esm
BSHeartland.esm
Campfire.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
Devious Devices - Integration.esm
Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
Heretical Resources.esm
paradise_halls.esm
SexLab - Sexual Fame [sLSF].esm
DeviousFramework.esm
NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
TERAArmors.esm
Gray Fox Cowl.esm
notice board.esp
moonpath.esm
PSQ PlayerSuccubusQuest.esm
Cutting Room Floor.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
FNIS.esp
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuMorphsCBBE.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
SkyUI.esp
SOS - VectorPlexus Muscular Addon.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
UIExtensions.esp
XPMSE.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
SexLab_Solutions.esp
Rebirth Monster.esp
RaceMenuOverlayCompilation - CBBE.esp
NibblesAnimObjects.esp
SLAL_K4Anims.esp
SLAnimLoader.esp
TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
BSHeartland - Meshes.esp
BSHeartland - Textures.esp
BSPatch.esp
CampfireKExt.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-DDx-patch.esp
pahe-DeviousDevices-addon-patch.esp
SexLab TDF Aggressive Prostitution.esp
SLALAnimObj.esp
DfwSupport.esp
SLA Monitor Widget.esp
ZaZHDTWorkshop.esp
ZazResources.esp
CollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Complete Alchemy & Cooking Overhaul.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueWeaponsLvlLists.esp
Book Covers Skyrim.esp
paradise_halls_SLExtension.esp
MoreBanditCamps(Explorer'sEdition).esp
xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
pahe-tdf-patch.esp
CWIELnFXPatch.esp
AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
Books of Skyrim Compilation.esp
SLIA - Books of Skyrim.esp
DibellanDefender.esp
SerialStrip.esp
Devious Devices - Equip.esp
KS Hairdo's.esp
Superjump_2x.esp
RealShelter.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp
Populated Skyrim Legendary.esp
Undeath.esp
OBIS.esp
hydra_slavegirls.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
ELFX - Weathers.esp
Captured Dreams.esp
CD - Female Embassy Guards.esp
CD - No Catsuits in Outfits.esp
OBISDB.esp
OBIS Loot.esp
Immersive Weapons.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
WeaponsArmorFixes_ImmersiveWeapons_Patch.esp
Smithing Perks Overhaul_Remade.esp
Cidhna Mine Expanded.esp
SexLab-Stories.esp
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp
SexLabSkoomaWhore.esp
SLIA - Legendary.esp
Devious Devices - Gags+.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded_Comments.esp
SLIA - Dawnguard.esp
SLIA - Dragonborn.esp
SLIA - Hearthfires.esp
SLIA - Skyrim.esp
Horses of Skyrim.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
Dogs-of-Skyrim.esp
Artifacts.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SMIM-Merged-All.esp
zDeviousStories.esp
SexSlavesForVanillaBandits.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot.esp
WindstadMine.esp
moonpath_questdata.esp
SimpleSlavery.esp
DeviousRegulations.esp
PAH_HomeSweetHome.esp
ImCh.esp
Slaverun_Reloaded.esp
Hunterborn.esp
MoreNastyCritters.esp
SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
konahrik_accoutrements.esp
paradise_halls_farengars_study.esp
Farm Animals.esp
Farm Animals_HF.esp
CoCo_TDM2.esp
Hunterborn_CACO_Patch.esp
Hunterborn_Campfire_Patch.esp
SLIA - The Devious Manual.esp
BrandingDeviceOfDoom.esp
DibellasRecruit.esp
SexLab_Dialogues.esp
SMUTBDS.esp
SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
SLIA - SMUT Books.esp
Better Embers.esp
CD - D.D. Equip.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
EK_RingLimiter.esp
Hermaeus Mora's Caress.esp
ItemRewardsForBounties.esp
QuieterDogs.esp
Skyrim_Strap_Ons.esp
Steel Bolts For All.esp
XiNafay - Shoes.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Craftable Arrows v1.2.esp
EquipableStockings.esp
nakedforsworn.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
SlaveTats.esp
SlaveTatsEventsBridge.esp
TS_ECatsuit&Ballet.esp
TS_FetishPantyhoseOutfits.esp
TS_GimpHood.esp
TS_SlickArmour.esp
TS_XinPHHeels.esp
Devious Cidhna.esp
zzEstrus.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp
Darkwind.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
SexLab-StoriesDevious.esp
EstrusChaurus.esp
EstrusSpider.esp
AetheriumSwordsnArmor.esp
alesCampBedrollsSupplies.esp
non-devious devices.esp
Zipsuit.esp
Brows.esp
dcc-dm2.esp
Gatti12Jewelry.esp
SOS - Revealing Armors.esp
Devious Rubber Masks.esp
submissivelola.esp
UnreadBooksGlow.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
AngrimApprentice.esp
Darkend.esp
paradise_halls_fellglow_slave_camp.esp
konahrik_accoutrements_db.esp
Dwemertech - Magic of the Dwarves.esp
ArtifactsOfBoethiah.esp
SororityGirlsOfSkyrimByAsherz.esp
Devious Deviants.esp
iNeed.esp
FNISspells.esp
ArtOfTheCatch.esp
SLALAnimObjBillyy.esp
SGS.esp
PP_WindcallerPass.esp
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp
Neo's Slave Leia Renewal.esp
Mannequin_Female_Vyctoria.esp
HDT Piercingsets.esp
Aradia Cross Armor.esp
BDSkimpyClothes.esp
Devious Masque of Clavicus Vile.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
Gatti3Evilrose.esp
GattiBondage1.esp
Glowing Vampire Eyes.esp
Glowing Eyes.esp
PrisonerRagsForFemales.esp
SexLabMassMatchMaker.esp
Shiva's Vanilla Hair Replacer.esp
SPTDiverseGuardsSkyrim.esp
zzLSAR.esp
DeviousTraining.esp
Enchanted Devious Devices.esp
Animated Dragon Wings.esp
P1FlyingRing.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Start As Breton Female.esp
NoNakedComments.esp
SupertightBody.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
ccas_starts.esp
Alternate Start -- New Beginnings.esp
Bruma - Alternate Start.esp
Deviously Cursed Loot LAL AddOn.esp
ELFXEnhancer.esp
RSPatch.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

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No it's definitely not the stealth ai mod. The child mods are to change little potato face running around skyrim, so just meshes and what not, don't think that's it either.

I already had a mods with AS way before i discovered sexlab and they all worked so it's not any nexus mods. After SexLab i've only done 1 new game and added from there. They all seemed to work fine so i never bothered actually starting a new clean save. I had a change of heart when i wanted something else to do in skyrim like some missions, maybe i just didn't talk to the right people or i didn't meet the requirements but still i wanted to make a new game to be sure but when i RaceMenu showed up and the model was T-Posing, don't know what caused that so i finished character creation to see if i could reload that but it crashed. It's obviously not FNIS, everything already worked fine all animations ran great. So i'm kinda stumped until i get an OCD attack and go to every single mod page in order to figure it out.

 

 

Update: I started a new game, changed absolutely nothing, it worked. I hate it when skyrim does that.

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Ah. "T-Posing". That will be either your skeleton or your animations.

Hmmmm ... you've got FNIS loading after FNIS Spells. LOOT does it the other way around for me. And I think SLAL has to go after all the SLAL aniimation packs (and I spotted that same thing in my load order, which may explain some lag/freezing I've been getting). Not sure if all of that is an issue. I suggest re-installing XPMSE and then running FNIS. I'm not a modder, so I'm not sure if that will help, but I've been dealing with adding and removing mods for a couple of years working towards my "ideal" game. I'm assuming you're using LOOT, but if not, I do strongly recommend that you do.

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Skykids will ctd your game, when using the statue of MARA in alternate start. And whit other talking activators.

I suggest you remove that mod and use another child re placer.

 

Brawl Bugs CE.esp=1 This is old and should be replaced whit Modern Brawlbugs patch.

This is wrong placed. Should be the first esp after your masters.

FISS.esp=1

 

You also have Beeing Female, you dont get any Skykids children if you get children whit it.

Use RS since that have support.

And Beeing Female.esm should be your last master.

 

This is one mod you dont need since you already have it in Beeing Female.

dcc-soulgem-oven-000.esm=1

 

 

And other suggestions that are made in the tread.

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You can use both SGO and Beeing Female together (but why? :) ), you'll probably want to disable scaling on one or the other though.

I've never used Skykids, but Beeing Female + RS Children works just fine.

 

@uncle64 - any idea why Skykids crashes the game when talking to talking activators? Does this always happen?

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@Content Consumer

It seems to have something to do whit the dll that replaces the armour/clothes.

Not sure why it does it, did use Sky children and even Rcots before, did try to make one plugin for Beeing Female, but there was to many issues did give up when I did get one mayor HD failure.

There are many post about it in the tread for Skychildren.

Did move on and now uses RS children for Beeing Female children, and TKAA for all other children's. Works fine. No issues at all.

Only needs to be installed in correct order.

 

About soulgem oven and beeing female, does not SexLab Inflation Framework have one fix for the scaling? Not sure.

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It's been a while since I've looked at Sexlab Inflation Framework. I thought it was unfinished anyway...?

But now that I think about it, since both SGO and Beeing Female use NiOverride, there won't be any scaling conflicts if you keep it enabled in both mods. 

Yes it updates little to often for my taste so I dont use it.

 

My self uses Nio if I can, dont have any clue about if they conflict about that. But they do similar things, It can work, but my self should take the safe way.

Dont remember any reports from Beeing female tread about those 2 mods. There are way to many posts there now.

 

Wonder how it goes for Towers6291?

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Well as it turns out i was wrong. The game felt a little laggy and when i looked down i could see into my body, and i have no perspective mods. So i just wanted to quit before i dove into the mods uninstalling what i didn't need. And here i go and read this, i almost forgot. I use SGO + Beeing Female because i like the practicality of SGO, i could make gems into better filled gems and I liked the idea of actually getting a family and such. And that brawl bug is, as far as i know, supposed to be modern brawlbugs patch i assumed it just uses the same name since it's practically the same, perhaps you could provide a link to the most recent one since that's the one i found, and also i've never heard of RS children maybe you could help provide that too. Also everything was just based off LOOT i still don't really even understand how to get into editing that stuff manually and know what i'm doing, i just see the orders in forums and nexus and assume LOOT should be able to tell, so i leave it.

 

 

 

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No it dont have the same name. It is not the same, uses the same scripts, but are way better. There are also fixes in it so your game dont bloat and ctd.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/77465/?

 

Rs Children.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55555/?

You also will need some patches for Beeing Female, you find them in the first page of B-F.

Dont forget the patches for Bruma.

 

You should consider to also use Wrye Bash, so you can fine tune your loadorder, loot dont do all stuff correct. You have some nice guides here and at Steam forum how to use the tools.

 

And if you want your game more stable, make sure that you download and install this 2 mods, nothing should overwrite the files from them.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/49743/? JContainers by silvericed

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/58705/? PapyrusUtil - Modders Scripting Utility Functions by exiledviper meh321

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It's been a while since I've looked at Sexlab Inflation Framework. I thought it was unfinished anyway...?

But now that I think about it, since both SGO and Beeing Female use NiOverride, there won't be any scaling conflicts if you keep it enabled in both mods. 

Yes it updates little to often for my taste so I dont use it.

 

My self uses Nio if I can, dont have any clue about if they conflict about that. But they do similar things, It can work, but my self should take the safe way.

Dont remember any reports from Beeing female tread about those 2 mods. There are way to many posts there now.

 

Wonder how it goes for Towers6291?

 

I've honestly never used SGO and beeing female together, but since SGO or Beeing female worked fine with FHU + Estrus Chaurus (+ cursed loot inflation) i don't see why they shouldn't. All of those react to sexlab orgasm and start doing their stuff then just fine, so i'd expect the same for SGO + Beeing female.

It may be a bit tricky to find reasonable values without inflation framework, but half default is usually fine until for me. :)

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