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Modding Oblivion using MO and i'm getting a crash on launch. I've copied all the OBSE plugins from MO to the Data folder already. My OBSE log is showing all the plugins as loading correctly.

 

Active Mod Files:

 

00  Oblivion.esm
01  Morrowind_ob.esm
02  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed.esm
03  All Natural Base.esm  [Version 1.36]
04  Francesco's Leveled Creatures-Items Mod.esm  [Version 5.0]
05  Francesco's Optional New Items Add-On.esm  [Version 5.0]
06  Cobl Main.esm  [Version 1.74]
07  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esm  [Version 1.38]
08  Mart's Monster Mod.esm  [Version 3.8b1]
09  FCOM_Convergence.esm  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
0A  Armamentarium.esm  [Version 1.35]
0B  Artifacts.esm  [Version 1.1]
0C  Lovers with PK.esm
0D  TamagoClub.esm
0E  HiyokoClub.esm
0F  CLS-Craftybits.esm
10  CM Partners.esm
11  x117race.esm
12  Chanpon.esm
13  Unofficial Oblivion Patch.esp  [Version 3.5.4a]
++  Oblivion Citadel Door Fix.esp
14  DLCShiveringIsles.esp
15  Unofficial Shivering Isles Patch.esp  [Version 1.5.8]
16  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Bosses.esp  [Version 5.0]
17  Francesco's Optional Chance of Stronger Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
18  Francesco's Optional Chance of More Enemies.esp  [Version 5.0]
19  Francesco's Optional Leveled Guards.esp  [Version 5.0]
++  FCOM_Francescos.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
++  FCOM_FrancescosItemsAddOn.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
1A  FCOM_FrancescosNamedBosses.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
1B  Atmospheric Loading Screens - Random Quotes.esp
1C  Natural_Habitat_by_Max_Tael.esp
1D  All Natural.esp  [Version 1.36]
1E  All Natural - SI.esp  [Version 1.36]
++  All Natural - MMM Patch.esp  [Version 1.3]
1F  Immersive Interiors.esp  [Version 0.8.1]
20  Immersive Interiors - Bravil.esp  [Version 2.01]
21  atmospheres.esp
22  Better Bell Sounds.esp
++  Symphony of Violence.esp
23  Atmospheric Oblivion.esp
24  ElzMoreVoice.esp
25  Storms & Sound.esp
26  All Natural - Real Lights.esp  [Version 1.36]
27  WindowLightingSystem.esp
28  Ravens and Seagulls.esp
29  AliveWaters.esp
2A  AliveWaters - Koi Addon.esp
2B  AliveWaters - Slaughterfish Addon.esp
2C  Book Jackets Oblivion.esp
2D  ClocksOfCyrodiil.esp
2E  drifting seeds.esp
2F  Ducks and Swans.esp
30  More Effective Enchantments.esp
++  PalePassIce.esp
31  Reznod_Mannequin.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - Reznod Mannequins.esp
32  Weapons Of Morrowind.esp  [Version 1.0]
33  Weapons Of Morrowind - Daedric Crescent.esp
34  Populated Prisons.esp  [Version 1.2]
35  DarNifiedUI Config Addon.esp
36  DropLitTorchOBSE.esp  [Version 2.4]
37  Duke Patricks - Friendship Ring For Companion Detection.esp  [Version 1.8]
38  OblivionReloaded.esp
++  OblivionReloadedArenaCombat.esp
39  Streamline 3.1.esp
3A  Dynamic Map.esp  [Version 2.1.1]
3B  DLCHorseArmor.esp
3C  DLCHorseArmor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.8]
3D  DLCOrrery.esp
3E  DLCOrrery - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
**  DLCOrrery Vwalk.esp
3F  DLCVileLair.esp
40  DLCVileLair - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.11]
41  DLCMehrunesRazor.esp
42  DLCMehrunesRazor - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.7]
**  DLCMehrunesRazor Vwalk.esp
43  DLCSpellTomes.esp
44  DLCSpellTomes - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
45  VipCxj_HighHeels.esp
46  Broadswords_MOBS.esp
47  CapesandCloaks.esp
++  Weapon Improvement Project.esp  [Version 1.9]
**  DMRA BBB Armamentarium Complete.esp
++  DMRA BBB Complete Clothing and Armor Replacer.esp
48  DLCThievesDen.esp
49  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.14]
4A  DLCThievesDen - Unofficial Patch - SSSB.esp  [Version 1.0.13]
**  DLCThievesDen Vwalk.esp
4B  Cobl Glue.esp  [Version 1.73]
4C  Cobl Si.esp  [Version 1.63]
4D  Bob's Armory Oblivion.esp
4E  FCOM_BobsArmory.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
4F  Oblivion WarCry EV.esp  [Version 1.09]
50  FCOM_WarCry.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
51  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul.esp  [Version 1.38]
**  DMRA BBB Oscuro's Oblivion Overhaul.esp
**  Oscuro's_Oblivion_Overhaul Vwalk.esp
**  OMOBS_SI.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  ArmamentariumLLVendors.esp  [Version 1.35]
52  ArmamentariumArtifacts.esp  [Version 1.35]
53  FCOM_Convergence.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb8b1]
++  FCOM_SlofsHorses.esp
54  FCOM_RealSwords.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8]
55  More Effective Enchantments FCOM.esp
++  FCOM_SpawnRatesReduced.esp  [Version 0.9.9Mb3]
56  Mart's Monster Mod - More Wilderness Life No Gates.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Looting NPCs & Creatures.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
57  Mart's Monster Mod - Safer Quest Locations.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
58  Mart's Monster Mod - Hunting & Crafting.esp  [Version 3.7b7]
**  DMRA BBB MMM Hunting&Crafting.esp
59  Mart's Monster Mod - Farm Animals.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
5A  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse WaterLife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
5B  Creature Diversity.esp
5C  Mart's Monster Mod - Diverse Creatures Expansion.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - RadiantAITweaks.esp
++  Mart's Monster Mod - More Passive Wildlife.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
++  MMM4OOO&FCOM- Slofs Horse & DLC Armor.esp
++  Cobl Tweaks - FCOM Mergeable.esp  [Version 1.72]
++  Mart's Monster Mod - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.8b1]
**  DMRA BBB FCOM Convergence.esp
**  DMRA BBB Mart's Monster Mod.esp
++  ArmamentariumLL4OOO.esp  [Version 2.01]
++  ArmamentariumLLMagicOOO.esp  [Version 1.35]
5D  Weapon Expansion Pack for Oblivion Nthusiasts.esp  [Version 1.03]
5E  Morrowind_ob.esp
5F  Morrowind_ob - Chargen and Transport Mod.esp  [Version 11]
++  Morrowind_ob - MorroblivionTreeReplacer.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - Morroblivion Maps.esp
60  Morrowind_ob - Conversation.esp
61  Morrowind_ob - UCWUS.esp  [Version 1.1]
62  Morrowind_ob - Mo Spell Tomes.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - Mo Spell Tomes Levelled Lists.esp
63  Morrowind_ob - Armored Skeletons.esp
64  Ash creatures as races.esp
65  Morroblivion - Silt Striders.esp
++  Ak- Morroblivion Maps HD.esp
66  Firemoth & Misc Additions.esp
67  ProtocolledDialogs.esp
68  MorroblivionLoadingScreens.esp  [Version 0.3]
69  Morroblivion spellmaking and enchanting stations.esp
++  Artifacts - ArmaCompleteAddon.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  DMRA BBB Artifacts Complete.esp
6A  DLCBattlehornCastle.esp
6B  DLCBattlehornCastle - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.12]
6C  DLCFrostcrag.esp
6D  Frostcrag_LOD.esp
6E  DLCFrostcrag - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.0.10]
6F  AFK_Frostcrag.esp  [Version 1.2.COBL]
**  DLCFrostcrag Vwalk.esp
70  Knights.esp
71  Knights - Unofficial Patch.esp  [Version 1.1.8]
++  DMRA BBB Knights of the Nine Replacer.esp
**  Knights Vwalk.esp
72  More Effective Enchantments Knights.esp
73  Summon Dremora Lord Saved.esp
74  Elz - No Floating Weapon.esp
++  FCOM_Knights.esp  [Version 0.9.9MB8b1]
75  xulImperialIsle.esp  [Version 1.6.8]
**  Grass Overhaul.esp
76  Grass Overhaul_xUL_Imperial_Isle_patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
77  xuldarkforest.esp  [Version 1.0.5]
78  xulStendarrValley.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
79  xulTheHeath.esp
7A  xulEntiusGorge.esp  [Version 1.2.1]
7B  xulFallenleafEverglade.esp  [Version 1.3.1]
7C  xulColovianHighlands_EV.esp  [Version 1.2.2]
7D  xulChorrolHinterland.esp  [Version 1.2.3]
**  xulChorrolHinterland Vwalk.esp
7E  xulBeachesOfCyrodiilLostCoast.esp  [Version 1.6.5]
7F  xulBravilBarrowfields.esp  [Version 1.3.5]
**  xulBravilBarrowfields Vwalk.esp
80  xulLushWoodlands.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
81  xulAncientYews.esp  [Version 1.4.4]
82  xulAncientRedwoods.esp  [Version 1.6]
83  xulCloudtopMountains.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
84  xulArriusCreek.esp  [Version 1.1.4]
85  xulPatch_AY_AC.esp  [Version 1.1]
86  xulRollingHills_EV.esp  [Version 1.3.3]
**  xulRollingHills_EV Vwalk.esp
87  xulPantherRiver.esp
88  xulRiverEthe.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
89  xulBrenaRiverRavine.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
**  xulBrenaRiverRavine Vwalk.esp
**  xulImperialIsle Vwalk.esp
8A  xulBlackwoodForest.esp  [Version 1.1.1]
8B  xulCheydinhalFalls.esp  [Version 1.0.1]
8C  xulAspenWood.esp  [Version 1.0.3]
**  xulAspenWood Vwalk.esp
8D  xulSkingradOutskirts.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
**  xulSkingradOutskirts Vwalk.esp
8E  xulSnowdale.esp  [Version 1.0.6]
++  OOO-Snowdale Patch.esp  [Version 1.1]
8F  xulCliffsOfAnvil.esp  [Version 1.1.3]
90  OOO-CliffsOfAnvil patch.esp  [Version 1.2]
**  xulCliffsOfAnvil Vwalk.esp
91  xulSilverfishRiverValley.esp  [Version 1.0.4]
92  xulJerallGlacier.esp  [Version 1.0.2]
93  OOO-JerallGlacier patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
94  xulTheEasternPeaks.esp  [Version 1.2]
**  xulTheEasternPeaks Vwalk.esp
95  Harvest [Flora].esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - Shivering Isles.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCVileLair.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
++  Harvest [Flora] - DLCFrostcrag.esp  [Version 3.0.0]
96  Better Dungeons.esp
97  HUD Status Bars.esp  [Version 6.3.2]
++  Improved Fires and Flames - Increased Sound.esp
98  Leviathan Soulgems.esp
99  Nephs Unique Thievery.esp
9A  RMDailyIncomeV2.esp
9B  TamagoDischarge.esp
9C  LoversTamagoClub.esp
9D  HiyokoGenerator.esp
9E  HiyokoGeneratorGeneForge.esp
9F  hggf_hiyokoclub_fix.esp
A0  TamagoSetBody.esp
A1  LoversAdultPlayPlusforSSP.esp
A2  LoversVoiceSSPplus.esp
A3  LoversRaperS.esp
A4  LoversBed.esp
A5  LoversBiko.esp
A6  HiyokoFutureDream.esp  [Version y]
A7  LoversPayBandit.esp
A8  SetBody.esp
A9  Lovers with PK.esp  [Version 96v5]
AA  LAPF Afterglow.esp
AB  LoversJoystick.esp
AC  LoversHelpRapeVPlayer.esp
AD  LoversBackup2.esp
AE  LoversStalkerMN.esp
AF  LoversRapeSlave.esp
B0  LoversMB2.esp
B1  LoversLight.esp
B2  LoversTrueCrimeEx.esp
B3  LoversSlaveTrader.esp
B4  LoversSexSense.esp  [Version 0.5.3]
++  ScriptIcon_Replacer.esp
++  Enhanced Vegetation [100%].esp
B5  Skill Perk Descriptions.esp  [Version 1.1]
B6  CLS-Craftybits.esp  [Version 6]
B7  MadCompanionshipSpells.esp  [Version 2.5]
B8  MCS extension.esp
B9  SupremeMagicka.esp  [Version 0.90b]
BA  SM_ShiveringIsles.esp  [Version 0.90]
++  SM_Morroblivion_poison.esp
++  MorrowOblivion_Integration_SM.esp
++  SM_COBL.esp  [Version 0.90]
BB  SM_EnchantStaff.esp  [Version 0.90]
BC  Alchemical Formulas.esp
BD  sycHearNoEvil.esp  [Version 1.0]
BE  Enhanced Grabbing.esp  [Version 0.5]
BF  Enhanced Grabbing Lovers Patch.esp
C0  SuddenViolence_CombatMoves.esp
C1  SuddenViolence_Sprint.esp
C2  SM Hand Combat.esp  [Version 1.0]
C3  TWSAS.esp
C4  kuerteeAttributeAndSkillBasedDamageModifiers.esp
C5  Duke Patricks - Actors Can Miss Now.esp
C6  HumantouchNPC.esp
C7  Oblivion XP.esp
C8  Legendary Abilities-Reflect MOJ.esp  [Version 2.0]
C9  Grandmaster of Alchemy.esp
CA  CM Partners.esp
CB  DiabloEF 6 in 1.esp
CC  InariRace.esp
CD  tbskNagaRace.esp
CE  Tabaxi Race 2.0.esp  [Version 2.0]
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Disable BandBlindMask.esp
CF  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Sheogorath Eye.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Vanilla Race.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged Eye Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Merged RoseSims Hair Modules.esp
++  x117 Merged SKSRENs Hair Modules.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed CustomRace.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Chocolate Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Cute Elves.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed Nec Mystic High Elf Remake.esp
D0  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed MS Elves - NoSc.esp
++  Beautiful People 2ch-Ed ENG Race.esp
D1  x117race.esp
++  x117Race ENG Race.esp
D2  Lop-ears Elf.esp
D3  MBP x110 race.esp
**  CM Partners Vwalk.esp
D4  CM Partners Special NPCs.esp
**  CM Partners Special NPCs Vwalk.esp
D5  CM Partners NPC.esp
**  CM Partners NPC Vwalk.esp
D6  CM Partners More NPCs.esp
**  CM Partners More NPCs Vwalk.esp
D7  CM Partners Extra NPCs.esp
**  CM Partners Extra NPCs Vwalk.esp
D8  CM Laika & Miyu.esp
D9  Zodiac Companions.esp
DA  bgBalancingEVCore.esp  [Version 10.0EV-L]
++  Nephs Stock Shoes Real High Heels.esp  [Version 1.0]
DB  Oblivion_Character_Overhaul.esp
++  OCO_DLCHorseArmor_Patch.esp
++  OCO_DLCOrrery_Patch.esp
++  OCO_DLCMehrunesRazor_Patch.esp
++  OCO_DLCThievesDen_Patch.esp
++  OCO_KnightsOTN_Patch.esp
++  OCO_UOP_USIP_Patch.esp
++  Better Redguard v2.esp
DC  bgMagicEV.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
**  bgMagicEV Vwalk.esp
++  bgMagicSpellTomes_for_WryeBash.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicItemSigil.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
++  bgMagicEVStartspells.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
DD  bgMagicBonus.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicEVAddEnVar.esp  [Version 1.68EV]
DE  Think to Yourself.esp
**  bgMagicEVShader.esp  [Version 1.7EV]
++  bgMagicShaderLifeDetect.esp  [Version 1.68]
DF  Mephaniel's New Classes.esp
**  Morroblivion - Clothing Galore.esp  [Version 1.2]
E0  MiniMap.esp
E1  Falling Leaves.esp  [Version 1.0]
++  Falling Leaves - UL LushWoodlands Patch.esp  [Version 1.0]
**  Sensual Walks.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI.esp
**  Sensual Walks SI DS + GS.esp
++  Cobl Filter Late MERGE ONLY.esp  [Version 1.53]
**  All Natural - Indoor Weather Filter For Mods.esp  [Version 1.36]
**  MOBSification of MODS.esp
++  Morrowind_ob - Storms and Sound Patch.esp
++  MorrOblivionHGECFemaleClothesNoBelts.esp
E2  Bashed Patch, 0.esp
E3  Morrowind_ob - Lost Magic OBME.esp  [Version 0.7]
E4  LoversIdleAnimsPriority.esp
E5  LoversAnimObjectsPriority.esp
E6  Morroblivion - Farmhouse.esp
E7  Morrowblivion-PJ. Gilnith's Shack.1.1.esp
E8  auriel_balmorahouse_corrected_09_05_2014_1.esp
E9  auriel_seyda_neen_home.esp
EA  balmoraplayerhouse_correctedlighting_09_05_2014.esp
EB  sadrithmorahouse_corrected_lighting_09_05_2014.esp
EC  MorroblivionLighthouseHome.esp
ED  MorroblivionLighthouseHomeCOBL.esp
EE  ShadderHeelsSeasonOne.esp
EF  Idol of Mephala.esp
F0  Ice Hideaway Reborn.esp  [Version 1.0b]

 


 

OBSE/Plugins

 

AddActorValues.dll
Blockhead.dll
Blockhead.ini
ComponentDLLs (DIR)
ConScribe.dll
ConScribe.ini
Elys_USV.dll
Elys_USV.lip
Elys_USV.mp3
Elys_USV.txt
EngineBugFixes.dll
EngineBugFixes.ini
FractionalMagicDamage.dll
HigherActiveEffectLimit.dll
hook.dll (MO)
MenuQue (DIR)
MenuQue.dll
MenuQue.ini
mo_path.txt
NifSE changelog.txt
NifSE readme.txt
NifSE.dll
OblivionReloaded.dll
OblivionReloaded.ini
OBME.dll
OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll
OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dlx
OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.log
OBSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll
obse_jail_fix.dll
obse_training_fix.dll
sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.dll
sr_Oblivion_Stutter_Remover.ini
vipcxj_plugin_collection.dll

 

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Not sure not many use MO most use OBMM (oblivion mod manager) for oblivion there are a few that use it but there are not a lot of them. Mo can work but you will have to jump a lot of hoops to get it to work properly.

 

Have you run BOSS for load order do not use LOOT.

 

Crash a launch is that at the beth logo? If so then that tells us that you have a missing master or a master is below the one needing it to be above it in the load order.

 

Running TES4EDIT can find out what masters are messed up. Have no clue how you will run any of these tools in MO. http://www.nexusmods.com/oblivion/mods/11536/?

 

Are there any lovers mods in your bashed patch? If there are redo it no lovers mods in the bashed patch.

 

http://www.loverslab.com/topic/36443-oblivion-install-gametoolsbodiesbbbmod-sorting-and-cleaningcs-cse-body-stretching/?do=findComment&comment=915257

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Running TES4Edit in MO is easy, but not always very informative as it will give some errors due to the way MO handles archives by unpacking the files in the BSAs then making them disappear. I disabled everything Lovers related aside from Setbody Blockhead when I bashed because of a vague recollection of seeing someone recommend that here.

 

I'm basically crashing a second after the game goes fullscreen but before a logo comes up. All the mods are showing up as green in WB and MO isn't flagging any ESPs with errors so I shouldn't have any missing master problems.

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Is the VipCxj_HighHeels.esm suppose to be in the load order as I don't see it I know that I have it in my load order. Does anything need the VipCxj_HighHeels.esm as I don't see it in the load order?

 

One thing you could try is to turn off some mods a few at a time try game if crash turn a few more off and try again once the game doesn't crash turn one mod you just turned off 1 at a time while checking the game after you turn 1 on till you crash again then you will know the culprit.

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Going by the RHH nexus page it looks like he phased out the esm with version 0.4. Are you using an older version or did you make that esp an esm somehow? Not sure if that would affect things as I don't think any mods in my setup need it to be an esm, unless it was left out of a readme.

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My guess is you are pushing the envelope of how many mods you can run.  Total esp, esm and bsa files need to be under the hard cap at bare minimum.  You might have a lower soft cap due to your system.  Try disabling a bunch of stuff and start a new game to see if you still crash.  Disable your bashed patch for now, until you get things running and then rebuild it.

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No. The cap will look something like 254/298 (my current). This is 254 active + the Oblivion.esm giving the 255. Then there are 43 merged into the bashed patch and inactive (should be ghosted in WB as well)

 

Also, try renaming OBSE_Elys_Pluggy.dll to OBSE_Elys_Pluggy_HUD.dll

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Have you tried to delete your oblivion.ini in your documents folder? It sounds stupid, but after reinstalling Oblivion I had to do that too, otherwise the game would always crash on startup. 

If you are using an altered ini file, you'll have to backup it and alter the newly created one by hand. 

I don't know why exactly but that seems to fix it for a lot of people.

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Hmm. I'll try those things a bit later and let you know what happens. Feeling a lil bit burnt out on messing with Mod Organizer & Oblivion atm as this is my third attempt at setting this up.

 

Also, if one of you would elaborate on the ghosting thing that would be appreciated.

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It's part of Wrye Bash. When you right click the File header right above your mod list, there's an auto-ghost option. It will ghost the mods that are merged to the bashed patch and any mod not active. They will be greyed out in the list, but if you look in your data folder they have .ghost added to their name.  ie:  NPCs Eat More.esp.ghost

It lessens the amount of esp's the game has to look at. No point in looking if they're in the patch. :)

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Deleting the ini got me into the game, but I started to crash after I changed the ini settings back. It turned out that my crashing was due to the ini referencing a DarkUI'd Darn font that I accidentally deleted.

 

Thanks for all the tips everyone. I feel like I now know enough about oblivion modding to be a noob. :lol:

 

Now to figure out why I crash when I try to start a new game.

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