Missing Textures

[loopie]

Hi guys
 
I am getting a lot of missing textures, which also cause eventual CTDs once I run into too many of them or too fast in the game, as per attached screenshots. They can happen anywhere on anything, NPCs, equipment, clothes, weapons, misc objects, furniture, terrain features, etc. literally anything.
 
They started appearing after I installed a mod from nexus, http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31380/? so that is the culprit.
 
Obviously I could uninstall it, clean the saves etc. and even restart the whole game as I am early enough, but I would really really love to have this mod in a working condition in a working game, so any way or anything can be done to fix this ? Also, in past, on rare occasions I had similar issues with other mods, so I think if I can find a fix for this, I might be able to also fix several other things as well.
 
I use loot, FNIS and clean mods with TES5edit religiously. So none of the applicable issues from those apply here unless there is something very specific.
 
I have also searched and did a bit of reading on the subject so far, but came out mostly empty handed for this stuff. Found one post on reddit which looks to be a similar issue and had something to do with something called "LOD" ? But ... I don't have any LODs in any graphics setting options or anything like that and have no clue what it is or how to deal with it.
 
2nd thing I dug up is load order problem. Between the mod and the high res texture packs and / or high res texture update. I tried the game with the mod put manually before high rez texture packs and update, between texture packs and update, and after them (which is its default) but all yielded the same results, missing textures and eventual CTDs.
 
3rd thing I dug up is that some people have been able to fix this using ENBs. I kinda looked into that in the recent past, but ENBs in general are just too complicated for me to use, also they seem to up the graphics and my system while not weak, is no longer the latest and greatest, so if I were to resort to use ENBs, I would need some detailed step-by-step instructions along with some direct links as to how to increase, instead of decreasing performance using them.
 
Attached are some screens and load order:

 

 

0 0 Skyrim.esm
1 1 Update.esm
2 2 Dawnguard.esm
3 3 HearthFires.esm
4 4 Dragonborn.esm
5 5 Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
6 6 ApachiiHair.esm
7 7 ApachiiHairFemales.esm
8 8 SexLab.esm
9 9 Devious Devices - Assets.esm
10 a SexLabAroused.esm
11 b ZaZAnimationPack.esm
12 c Devious Devices - Integration.esm
13 d CompanionArissa.esm
14 e CreatureFramework.esm
15 f daymoyl.esm
16 10 Devious Devices - Expansion.esm
17 11 Havok Breast Physic.esm
18 12 hdtHighHeel.esm
19 13 NPCs of Dibella - Resources.esm
20 14 RaceCompatibility.esm
21 15 Schlongs of Skyrim - Core.esm
22 16 HighResTexturePack01.esp
23 17 HighResTexturePack02.esp
24 18 HighResTexturePack03.esp
25 19 Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
26 1a JContainers-optional_installation_validator.esp
27 1b SkyUI.esp
28 1c UIExtensions.esp
29 1d XPMSE.esp
30 1e 12FemaleBrows.esp
31 1f AddItemMenu.esp
32 20 NPCs of Dibella - Females.esp
33 21 SexLabNudeCreatures.esp
34 22 SexLabNudeCreaturesDB.esp
35 23 SexLabNudeCreaturesDG.esp
36 24 Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
37 25 Weightless.esp
38 26 Lakeview_Extended.esp
39 27 SexLab_DibellaCult.esp
40 28 Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
41 29 xazPrisonOverhaul.esp
42 2a xazPrisonOverhaul - Patch.esp
43 2b HentaiCreatures.esp
44 2c Run For Your Lives.esp
45 2d SexLab Beastess.esp
46 2e DeviousRegulations.esp
47 2f K2WorkingGirls.esp
48 30 BDSICHC.esp
49 31 Tame Beast.esp
50 32 TameBeastPatch.esp
51 33 SexLabAnimalSex.esp
52 34 SexLabAnimalSexTame.esp
53 35 AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp
54 36 Anal Torch.esp
55 37 Babette.esp
56 38 BBP_Sexy Elves.esp
57 39 Beastess Forsworn.esp
58 3a craftingsupples_aio_all.esp
59 3b Beastess Vampire.esp
60 3c Better Vampires.esp
61 3d Brawl Bugs CE.esp
62 3e MF_RadiantProstitution.esp
63 3f Crafting Supply Chest.esp
64 40 CeciliaFollower.esp
65 41 dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
66 42 Devious Intergration Armor.esp
67 43 Devious Deviants.esp
68 44 Devious Deviant Armor.esp
69 45 Devious Devices - Equip.esp
70 46 Devious Expansion Armor.esp
71 47 Devious Regulation Armor.esp
72 48 DeviousToys.esp
73 49 DragonPlateBrazen.esp
74 4a DSerArcheryGameplayOverhaul.esp
75 4b DW.esp
76 4c FlameAtronachArmor.esp
77 4d FNIS.esp
78 4e FNISSexyMove.esp
79 4f heimu0.esp
80 50 FNISspells.esp
81 51 FullBootForKKSA.esp
82 52 Havok Breast Physic Dawnguard.esp
83 53 Havok Breast Physic Dragonborn.esp
84 54 Havok Breast Physic.esp
85 55 Immersive Arousal.esp
86 56 Longer Days - 4 Hours - Dawnguard.esp
87 57 Merta Assassin Armor.esp
88 58 MoreNastyCritters.esp
89 59 My Home Is Your Home.esp
90 5a NewVampChainsArmorReplacer.esp
91 5b NPC Body Scale Randomizer.esp
92 5c RaceCompatibilityUSKPOverride.esp
93 5d RaceMenu.esp
94 5e RaceMenuMorphsUUNP.esp
95 5f RaceMenuPlugin.esp
96 60 RosaFollower.esp
97 61 Schlongs of Skyrim.esp
98 62 SexLab Aroused Creatures.esp
99 63 SexLab Dangerously Nude.esp
100 64 SexLab Submit.esp
101 65 SexLabDefeat.esp
102 66 SexLab_DibellaCult_Sisters.esp
103 67 ShellBondage - Bombshell.esp
104 68 Skysan_UltraSkimpy.esp
105 69 SLALAnimObj.esp
106 6a SLAnimLoader.esp
107 6b SOS - VectorPlexus Regular Addon.esp
108 6c SPB Ribbon 15.esp
109 6d Tanya's String.esp
110 6e TavernClothes-MTM.esp
111 6f TheEyesOfBeauty.esp
112 70 towConversation.esp
113 71 Veronika the Thief.esp
114 72 VL No AoE Drain.esp
115 73 When Vampires Attack.esp
116 74 Witch Elf Armour.esp
117 75 zaz-craft.esp
118 76 ZazResources.esp
119 77 SexLabAnimalSexDawn.esp
120 78 Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

 

 

So anyone have any ideas as to what can I do here short of delete the mod and restart ?

 

[Guest]

When you have a problem like that it is because some textures are missing (as you said in your title.)

Now, finding the culprit mod cannot be easy. How do you install mods? MO, NMM, Manual?

 

To find the guilty mod I will use one of your screenshots, but you need CK to do it.

You last tumbnail shows a decoration item (Static) with the shape of a fish.

It should be fair easy to find in CK, then find the NIF that is used, edit it in NifSkope, and find which one is the texture associated.

Then just be sure to have the mod that adds it re-installed.

 

[loopie]

When you have a problem like that it is because some textures are missing (as you said in your title.)

Now, finding the culprit mod cannot be easy. How do you install mods? MO, NMM, Manual?

 

To find the guilty mod I will use one of your screenshots, but you need CK to do it.

You last tumbnail shows a decoration item (Static) with the shape of a fish.

It should be fair easy to find in CK, then find the NIF that is used, edit it in NifSkope, and find which one is the texture associated.

Then just be sure to have the mod that adds it re-installed.

 

Hi

 

I already know which mod, its Lakeview Extended from nexus http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/31380/? again, I would like to fix this if possible instead of deleting the mod. Of course that is an option, but its such an awesome mod if I could get it stable.

 

Perhaps I did not go into enough detail on the problem description, so let me repharse a bit:

 

Some textures in the game, at random, which can affect anything, random objects, NPCs, terrain features, literally anything are missing. When I reload the game, they are back, and some other ones are missing, so on and so forth.

 

So it is not a matter of a few missing textures and editing them, I would literally have to redo entire skyrim in order to be rid of it this way. Also, they are not entirely missing, as they are actually there just not displayed, since different reloads of the same save give me different "missing" textures, and the ones that were are back where they are supposed to be.

 

In addition, I am an end user, things such as nifskope are far far far far far far far far far far far beyond me, I am not a modder or even remotely any sort of computer pro. I can't even properly use texblend and it causes drama in the game when I try. My modding expertise ends on using the slides in bodyslide, save / script cleaner and sorting load order.

 

So, I have no clue about nifscopes, but even if I did, which I gather is some sort of a graphic / texture editor ? I would literally have to go over every single texture file in the entire game to fix it because of the above described "jumping around" of those "missing textures". They are in the entire game, and move around with map and game relaods. I can even fast travel to a location, see some different missing textures and fast travel back, and the missing textures on objects that were will be back, but some other ones will be present.

 

I installed all mods manually, because both NMM and MO were causing drama. NMM wanted to always update stuff that I didn't want updated and MO would not install stuff into data folder and caused drama with with FNIS and SKSE.

 

Game mod install order was roughly as follows:

 

1. Install the game and official (bethesda) content

2. clean with tes5edit

3. install unofficial patch(es) (using the legendary edition patch)

4. Install SKSE and SKY UI

5. Install netimerse override, jcontainers, jcontainer safeguards

6. install fnis, run fnis for users

7. run default skyrim to set options, key bindings, get ini files set (created) and get 1 save.

8. delete the above save and install Alternate Start, racemenu, all their requirements.

9. install bodyslide, XPMSE, bodies, body textures, skins, hair, HDT, physics etc.

10. install framework mods such as sexlab framework etc. and any of their respective requirements.

11. install any non sex stand alone mod such as Longer days, quality map, immersive amazing follower tweaks, etc. these do not affect the sex mods or anything related to here as they do not deal with textures in the game.

12. install plugin mods such as devious mods, hentai creatures, etc. etc. and their respective requirements.

13. install any other leftover mod.

 

Every step of the way I would re-run Loot and FNIS. Also, completely deleted the saves and restarted from fresh body created via racemenu. I also always re-install SOS and XPMSE in that order, after I finish the installation and after I run bodyslide and end up with bodies I wnat on both PC and NPCs (since i can go to crowded locations via alternate start right off the bat).

 

The mod in question, Lakeview extended, I installed very last because it states that it requires the default lakeview mansion to be developed in order for proper install, so I had to get to that point in the game to install it.

 

Also, you mentioned something called CK ? What is it ? Is it end user usabale or only modders / pros ?

[Guest]

Mh. How much memory do you have in your graphic card?

Try to remove the High Res texture pack that are from the normal Skyrim download.

If the problem goes away then there is a problem on the memory of your graphic card.

 

You can try to reduce the size of the dds using BSAOpt, in case this is the problem.

[RW311]

bsa opt guide here.... http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:BSA_Extraction_and_Optimization#tab=Setup_and_Use_of_BSAopt

 

I used the texture optimizer because i had the same problem as you after I upgraded to win10 and found it can't use most of my vram and I had a bunch of 4k texture mods and I didn't want to rebuild the entire list again. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D12801%26preview%3D&pUp=1

So I had to instead reduce them all to 2k but it looks fine.

[loopie]

Hi

 

I was also thinking that it feels to me as if the actual VRAM hit its limits. I have a Radeon HD 7870 with 2 gigs of DDR5. System has 16 gigs of corsair DDR3 and the CPU is i5 3570K, the vid card and vid ram are slightly overclocked (about 10%) so I tried resetting to defaults etc. same result, that didn't make any difference. CPU is running stock 3.4 GHz with turbo enabled via mobo up to 3.8 GHz. There is plenty of cooling for both and temperatures are well within norm even at max load or nearly max prolonged usage.

 

I will definetly give the BSA and the texture optimizer a shot, see what happens. Will disable / delete the official high rez stuff, that might actually help quite a lot.

 

Below are my skyrim ini and skyrim prefs ini so you guys can see what options I have. It is also entirely possible that there is something wrong with them, though I did not mess with them at all until I ran into these issues, also have the originals backed up, so restoring defaults is not an issue. In addition I run ENboost ini, its in the 3rd spoiler and it actually does help the game run smooth, noticable improvement.

 

May take me a day or 2 to go through this stuff, but I will and I'll update the results.

 

Skyrim.ini

 

[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
uExterior Cell Buffer=36

[Display]
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1

[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0

[Grass]
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0

[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

[Combat]
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0

[Papyrus]
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0

[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=0
bReflectLODLand=0
bReflectSky=0
bReflectLODTrees=0

 

 

SkyrimPrefs.ini

 

[General]
fBrightLightColorB=1.0000
fBrightLightColorG=1.0000
fBrightLightColorR=1.0000
iStoryManagerLoggingEvent=-1
bEnableStoryManagerLogging=0

[imagespace]
bDoDepthOfField=1
iRadialBlurLevel=0

[Display]
iBlurDeferredShadowMask=1
fInteriorShadowDistance=3000.0000
fShadowDistance=2500.0000
iShadowMapResolutionSecondary=1024
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
iShadowSplitCount=2
iMaxAnisotropy=1
fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd=4600.0000
fLeafAnimDampenDistStart=3600.0000
fTreesMidLODSwitchDist=3600.0000
fGamma=1.0000
fDecalLOD2=1500.0000
fDecalLOD1=1000.0000
fSpecularLODStartFade=500.0000
fShadowLODStartFade=200.0000
fLightLODStartFade=1000.0000
iTexMipMapMinimum=0
iTexMipMapSkip=0
iWaterMultiSamples=0
iMultiSample=4
iShadowMode=3
bTreesReceiveShadows=0
bDrawLandShadows=0
bFull Screen=1
iSize H=1080
iSize W=1920
fMeshLODFadePercentDefault=1.2000
fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault=256.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance=2048.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance=2844.0000
fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist=3072.0000
fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist=4096.0000
iScreenShotIndex=8
bShadowMaskZPrepass=0
bMainZPrepass=0
iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame=3
iMaxDecalsPerFrame=10
bFloatPointRenderTarget=0
sD3DDevice="AMD Radeon HD 7800 Series"
bFXAAEnabled=0
iShadowMapResolution=1024
fShadowBiasScale=0.3000
iShadowMaskQuarter=4
iAdapter=0
iPresentInterval=1
iShadowFilter=3
bShadowsOnGrass=1
bTransparencyMultisampling=0
bDeferredShadows=1
bDrawShadows=1

[Grass]
b30GrassVS=1
fGrassStartFadeDistance=1000.0000
fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance=7000.0000
fGrassMinStartFadeDistance=0.0000

[MAIN]
bGamepadEnable=0
bCrosshairEnabled=1
fHUDOpacity=1.0000
bSaveOnPause=0
bSaveOnTravel=1
bSaveOnWait=1
bSaveOnRest=1
fSkyCellRefFadeDistance=150000.0000

[GamePlay]
bShowFloatingQuestMarkers=1
bShowQuestMarkers=1
iDifficulty=4

[interface]
bDialogueSubtitles=0
bGeneralSubtitles=0
fMouseCursorSpeed=1.0000
bShowCompass=1

[Controls]
fGamepadHeadingSensitivity=1.0000
fMouseHeadingSensitivity=0.0125
bAlwaysRunByDefault=1
bInvertYValues=0
bGamePadRumble=0
bMouseAcceleration=1
bUseKinect=0

[Particles]
iMaxDesired=750

[saveGame]
fAutosaveEveryXMins=60.0000

[AudioMenu]
fAudioMasterVolume=1.0000
fVal7=1.0000
uID7=0
fVal6=1.0000
uID6=0
fVal5=1.0000
uID5=0
fVal4=1.0000
uID4=184689018
fVal3=0.9000
uID3=94881
fVal2=0.3500
uID2=466532
fVal1=1.0000
uID1=554685
fVal0=0.8000
uID0=1007612

[Clouds]
fCloudLevel2Distance=262144.0000
fCloudLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fCloudLevel0Distance=16384.0000
fCloudNearFadeDistance=9000.0000

[TerrainManager]
fTreeLoadDistance=25000.0000
fBlockMaximumDistance=100000.0000
fBlockLevel1Distance=32768.0000
fBlockLevel0Distance=20480.0000
fSplitDistanceMult=0.7500
bShowLODInEditor=0

[NavMesh]
fObstacleAlpha=0.5000
fCoverSideHighAlpha=0.8000
fCoverSideLowAlpha=0.6500
fEdgeFullAlpha=1.0000
fEdgeHighAlpha=0.7500
fEdgeLowAlpha=0.5000
fTriangleFullAlpha=0.7000
fTriangleHighAlpha=0.3500
fTriangleLowAlpha=0.2000
fLedgeBoxHalfHeight=25.0000
fEdgeDistFromVert=10.0000
fEdgeThickness=10.0000
fPointSize=2.5000

[Trees]
bRenderSkinnedTrees=1
uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender=20

[Decals]
uMaxDecals=100
bDecals=1
bSkinnedDecals=1
uMaxSkinDecals=35
uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor=20

[LOD]
fLODFadeOutMultObjects=5.0000
fLODFadeOutMultItems=3.5000
fLODFadeOutMultActors=6.0000
fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell=1.0000

[Launcher]
bEnableFileSelection=1
bShowAllResolutions=1
uLastAspectRatio=3

[blurShaderHDR]
bDoHighDynamicRange=1

[blurShader]
bUseBlurShader=0

[Water]
iWaterReflectHeight=512
iWaterReflectWidth=512
bUseWaterDisplacements=1
bUseWaterRefractions=1
bUseWaterReflections=1
bUseWaterDepth=1

 

 

enblocal.ini

 

[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=false
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[GLOBAL]
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true
UseDefferedRendering=false
ForceFakeVideocard=false
IgnoreCreationKit=true

[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true
EnableOcclusionCulling=true

[MULTIHEAD]
ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false
VideoAdapterIndex=0

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb=1920
EnableCompression=false
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=false
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=true
MaxAnisotropy=16
EnableVSync=false
AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false
ForceLodBias=false
LodBias=0.0
VSyncSkipNumFrames=0

[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=false
FPSLimit=60.0

[iNPUT]
//shift
KeyCombination=16
//f12
KeyUseEffect=123
//home
KeyFPSLimit=36
//num / 106
KeyShowFPS=106
//print screen
KeyScreenshot=44
//enter
KeyEditor=13
//f4
KeyFreeVRAM=115
KeyBruteForce=66

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]
Enable=false
Quality=1
DesiredFPS=20.0

[ANTIALIASING]
EnableEdgeAA=false
EnableTemporalAA=false
EnableSubPixelAA=false
EnableTransparencyAA=false

[FIX]
FixGameBugs=true
FixParallaxBugs=true
FixAliasedTextures=true
IgnoreLoadingScreen=false
IgnoreInventory=true
FixSsaoWaterTransparency=true
FixSsaoHairTransparency=true
FixTintGamma=true
RemoveBlur=true
FixSubSurfaceScattering=true
FixParallaxTerrain=true
FixSkyReflection=true
FixCursorVisibility=true
FixLag=false

[THREADS]
DataSyncMode=0
PriorityMode=0
EnableUnsafeFixes=false

[LONGEXPOSURE]
EnableLongExposureMode=false
Time=1.0
BlendMax=0.0

 

 

In the meanwhile, if anyone has anything else to try or any other ideas please post them, i'll be back after I play around with the above stuff.

 

 

 

[loopie]

bsa opt guide here.... http://wiki.step-project.com/Guide:BSA_Extraction_and_Optimization#tab=Setup_and_Use_of_BSAopt

 

I used the texture optimizer because i had the same problem as you after I upgraded to win10 and found it can't use most of my vram and I had a bunch of 4k texture mods and I didn't want to rebuild the entire list again. http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/12801/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D12801%26preview%3D&pUp=1

So I had to instead reduce them all to 2k but it looks fine.

 

 

Just an update, it worked, got my game working and stable. I didn't even get to the BSA stuff and that texture optimizer. Just uninstalled the official high rez pack + the unofficial high rez update. Kept the characters, NPCs, outfits etc. at 4k while switching the terrain features and junk objects to 2k. Since the game is obviously porn modded I care nothing for the terrain, weather, etc. anyways.

 

Thanks a lot !

 

Solved the issue.

[RW311]

Good to hear.

The texture optimizer does not force compression of 4k, it's an optional switch. I would still recommend running it when you have a lot of loose texture files in the data directory because it makes a very noticeable difference in vram use even without compression since many of the textures are not optimal size for the game.

 

I really can't tell a difference in my game after compressing everything to 2k and I run at 1440, unless you did a side by side comparison of the same texture it's not noticeable. The high res paks are already at 2k so if you were to compress any 4k textures to 2k along with optimizing all the loose files you could probably run it again.

 

Here is a link of an updated ini file for the optimizer for anyone who want to run it, really good tool much easier to use and faster than the ddsopt tool and can compress textures in a bsa without having to manually unpack them first.

http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/55803/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D55803%26preview%3D&pUp=1