I see this is in my logs quite often in my CTDs. What is this?

TheSenator · February 16, 2016

Here's the extract from the Papyrus log that I see a lot(barring the "achievement")

[02/16/2016 - 05:52:05AM]
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:03AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:07AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 893
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 894
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 895
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Error: Cannot call iDebugLevel() on a None object, aborting function call
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:08AM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp179"
stack:
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.Log() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 1204
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.IsSameBaseItem() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 811
   [alias PlayerRef on quest zbf (0B0137E6)].zbfslot.OnItemRemoved() - "zbfSlot.psc" Line 896
[02/16/2016 - 05:53:42AM] Info: *Achievement 47 awarded - a winnar is you!*
[02/16/2016 - 05:54:14AM] VM is freezing...
[02/16/2016 - 05:54:14AM] VM is frozen

As for my load order:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Dawnguard.esm
HearthFires.esm
Dragonborn.esm
Falskaar.esm
Wyrmstooth.esp
Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp
EFFCore.esm
SexLab.esm
SkyMoMod.esm
ZaZAnimationPack.esm
GeneralStores.esm
notice board.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Skyrim Bigger Trees Full.esp
Dark Fantasy Overhaul.esp
3DNPC.esp
FISS.esp
AMatterOfTime.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
OBIS.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
Volundr.esp
Immersive Patrols II.esp
CerwidenCompanion.esp
EFFDialogue.esp
arnima.esp
lilithsobliterator3_0.esp
TKcombat.esp
OBISDB.esp
SofiaFollower.esp
ForgottenCity.esp
Requiem for the Indifferent.esp
Dienes_Crafting_Storage(GS).esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.esp
UIExtensions.esp
FNIS.esp
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
Pureweather.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
SexLab Cumshot.esp
SexLabDefeat.esp
SexLab_SOS-Stapon.esp
SexLab Submit.esp
WheelsOfLull.esp
SBF All In One + DLC.esp
SkyUI.esp
Schlongs of Skyrim - Light.esp
StrapOnbyaeonv1.1.esp
Supreme Fog.esp
WorldEaterBeater.esp
TimingIsEverything.esp
SOSRaceMenu.esp
XPMSE.esp
Bathing in Skyrim - Main.esp
SkyTweak.esp
Syynx Stubborn Skeletons.esp
Darkend.esp
iNeed.esp
iNeed - Dangerous Diseases.esp
moveitLWT.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

I see this from time to time with CTDs. I recently just recreated the situation by CTDing upon entering the Ragged Flaggon.

27X · February 16, 2016

HothTrooper = Problematic

Enhanced Blood = Problematic

OBIS + SMM + IC + No bashed patch = Extremely problematic

Immersive Patrols = possibly problematic

TheSenator · February 16, 2016

HothTrooper = Problematic

Enhanced Blood = Problematic

OBIS + SMM + IC + No bashed patch = Extremely problematic

Immersive Patrols = possibly problematic

I can deal with bash patching obis+smm+IC, but what can I do with the others?

Istill · February 16, 2016

Why immersive armors is problematic?

27X · February 16, 2016

Because it's badly, badly made.

Also High res patches should not be installed, (unless they're the cleaned ones from the nexus.)

As for blood, there's really no fix, afaik. It's a scripting/cloak issue, and it's never been addressed by the author. Same for IP.

You might try the new cleaned up CWO instead, though I'm not really sure exactly how cleaned up it is.

TheSenator · February 16, 2016

Because it's badly, badly made.

Also High res patches should not be installed, (unless they're the cleaned ones from the nexus.)

As for blood, there's really no fix, afaik. It's a scripting/cloak issue, and it's never been addressed by the author. Same for IP.

You might try the new cleaned up CWO instead, though I'm not really sure exactly how cleaned up it is.

The Highres plugins are just dummy files according to MO. I don't have the actual ones installed. I may get CWO a shot.

*D_ManXX2* · February 18, 2016

i See you also use XPMSE.esp have you checked your .skse co save file size ?? if that gets too big it is good inidcation your save game will not be working right after a while.

Sailing Rebel · February 18, 2016

The zbf scripts belong to Zaz Animation Pack. Which mods do have that require it? It may need a clean save and reinstalling.

aljustineg · February 18, 2016

so do we really need to remove xpmse.esp?

and also is 1.620 .co skse a normal one if not how can i fix it?

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